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TheRam

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Constantly? In 2016-2017 (winning seasons) we had an average amount of injuries. Only this year (and 2015) did we have a horrific injury toll. Both losing seasons.

No.

Like I said, injury-prone (or suspension-prone) players are cheaper, and we have less to spend on players.

Tackled less because of more dropped ball? WTF are you claiming here?

I think there is the possibility of having more than the usual amount of players who refuse to play injured. People talk about Watmough being old and injury prone, but he still played 20+ games every year since 2005. If he hadn't gotten season-ending surgery he would've played 20 games for us in 2015. He might've needed surgery but he ran for over 100 metres in five of his past six games for us so the injury wasn't exactly holding him back. He was a tough merkin who could play through pain.

Shit signing and many here knew it before he got here. If BA wants a great leader with experience, James Graham would have been the type you go for. Especially since the Dogs are paying for the bulk of his wages. Now that is a brilliant signing and would have had my blessing and I'm sure many other posters too.

Luke Lewis, Chris Heighington, these are the types that you bring in and all much cheaper. Players that other players like to be around and get career benefits out of following their cues. Not merkins on 8-900k who admit to not wanting to be here and just do their training and then immediately spear off. A player that has never been known for his off field leadership, but a talent on the field for sure when playing well. But not a real leader of men.
 

Gary Gutful

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Shit signing and many here knew it before he got here. If BA wants a great leader with experience, James Graham would have been the type you go for. Especially since the Dogs are paying for the bulk of his wages. Now that is a brilliant signing and would have had my blessing and I'm sure many other posters too.

Luke Lewis, Chris Heighington, these are the types that you bring in and all much cheaper. Players that other players like to be around and get career benefits out of following their cues. Not merkins on 8-900k who admit to not wanting to be here and just do their training and then immediately spear off. A player that has never been known for his off field leadership, but a talent on the field for sure when playing well. But not a real leader of men.
Until they inevitably get injured and then merkins call for the coaches head.
 

Poupou Escobar

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No such thing as a favourable draw?
Not unless you’re better than most teams. If you’re worse then it doesn’t really matter whom you play twice, does it?

Interestingly, we were just as good against top eight teams as bottom eight teams last year.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Shit signing and many here knew it before he got here. If BA wants a great leader with experience, James Graham would have been the type you go for. Especially since the Dogs are paying for the bulk of his wages. Now that is a brilliant signing and would have had my blessing and I'm sure many other posters too.

Luke Lewis, Chris Heighington, these are the types that you bring in and all much cheaper. Players that other players like to be around and get career benefits out of following their cues. Not merkins on 8-900k who admit to not wanting to be here and just do their training and then immediately spear off. A player that has never been known for his off field leadership, but a talent on the field for sure when playing well. But not a real leader of men.
Watmough was definitely a leader, and didn’t need to hang out with the youngsters. Leaders should keep some distance.

2015 Watmough was also a much better player than 2018 James Graham. He just played in a worse team.
 

84 Baby

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Shit signing and many here knew it before he got here. If BA wants a great leader with experience, James Graham would have been the type you go for. Especially since the Dogs are paying for the bulk of his wages. Now that is a brilliant signing and would have had my blessing and I'm sure many other posters too.

Luke Lewis, Chris Heighington, these are the types that you bring in and all much cheaper. Players that other players like to be around and get career benefits out of following their cues. Not merkins on 8-900k who admit to not wanting to be here and just do their training and then immediately spear off. A player that has never been known for his off field leadership, but a talent on the field for sure when playing well. But not a real leader of men.
How would you f**king know whether he was a leader? Didn't really enjoy your time playing in the same team as him? Evidence points to him possibly being one, being a two time premiership winner and being in a core group of high profile players who admitted to taking unders in order to stick together.

But anyway let's live in the past
 

chiefy1

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Watmough was definitely a leader, and didn’t need to hang out with the youngsters. Leaders should keep some distance.

2015 Watmough was also a much better player than 2018 James Graham. He just played in a worse team.


Watmough was obviously the worst fk up signing in nrl history

When are you dorks going to learn
 
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chiefy1

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Shit signing and many here knew it before he got here. If BA wants a great leader with experience, James Graham would have been the type you go for. Especially since the Dogs are paying for the bulk of his wages. Now that is a brilliant signing and would have had my blessing and I'm sure many other posters too.

Luke Lewis, Chris Heighington, these are the types that you bring in and all much cheaper. Players that other players like to be around and get career benefits out of following their cues. Not merkins on 8-900k who admit to not wanting to be here and just do their training and then immediately spear off. A player that has never been known for his off field leadership, but a talent on the field for sure when playing well. But not a real leader of men.

James Graham is an ok purchase who obviously fit into the improving dragons pack with a plethora of size and talent. He was probably the missing piece in the puzzle and brought his intimidation and toughness.

A three year contract for graham adding to an already aging pack would have been another disaster here. We're currently in a rebuilding phase and needed the Ese's or the pangai jnr types.
 

Gronk

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Watmough was obviously the worst fk up signing in nrl history

When are you dorks going to learn

Source your claims mate. The injury and medical insurance payout dispute is currently before the NSW Supreme Court.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Watmough was obviously the worst fk up signing in nrl history

When are you dorks going to learn

Fake news to try and put the boot into the club.

The worst NRL signing ever was Karlos Filiga for the sharks. He played 11 minutes and was on a reported $600k over 3 years. Was then released the following year.
 

TheRam

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How would you f**king know whether he was a leader? Didn't really enjoy your time playing in the same team as him? Evidence points to him possibly being one, being a two time premiership winner and being in a core group of high profile players who admitted to taking unders in order to stick together.

But anyway let's live in the past

Mate I don't know what you have been watching for the last 15 years or so, but Watmough's good time Charlie and at times wanker behaviour off the field has been well documented. Hardly leadership qualities from that perspective. On the field a damn fine talent when playing well. Poor attitude when out and about.

Don't believe me? Tough. Look it up cos I couldn't be f'ed looking at the past either anymore. I was just responding to another posters crap as usual. To many negative souls on here that just live in exuserland.
 

TheRam

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Not unless you’re better than most teams. If you’re worse then it doesn’t really matter whom you play twice, does it?

Interestingly, we were just as good against top eight teams as bottom eight teams last year.

We were better then the average teams so we did ok against them. As for playing just as well against the better teams, that was possible because of the reasons I already given.
 

84 Baby

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Mate I don't know what you have been watching for the last 15 years or so, but Watmough's good time Charlie and at times wanker behaviour off the field has been well documented. Hardly leadership qualities from that perspective. On the field a damn fine talent when playing well. Poor attitude when out and about.

Don't believe me? Tough. Look it up cos I couldn't be f'ed looking at the past either anymore. I was just responding to another posters crap as usual. To many negative souls on here that just live in exuserland.
And as I recently argued with Noise & HM, from a playing perspective who gives a shit what he does off field? Don't you have a man love for Matt Lodge FFS? We're not asking him to be a leader to some hard luck kids who need a role model to stay out of trouble, we need him to direct/motivate some less experienced footballers in what it takes to win premierships and play for your country. In fact the leadership we need i.e. barking at your teammates to smash the opposition merkin into the ground, probably isn't very congruous to a well-rounded person away from the field
 

Happy MEel

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Culture is a convenient buzz word that people apply to a bunch of shit they don’t understand. I do it all the time at work.
If that is in fact the case, why the hell did we contract a merkin to conduct the club’s review whose whole philosophy is essentially building and improving culture to improve performance?

“Shane McCurry is a thought leader in dynamic settings across industries including high performance sport, corporate, government and education. Shane’s foundation philosophy is that all individuals, teams & organisations have the capacity to improve, and can reach their full potential through an “elevation” focus on progress, story, connection, wellbeing and reflection (and this is true for our work and personal lives!). As a consultant, coach and facilitator, Shane's thought leadership practice inspires change, growth and progress by supporting leaders and teams to enhance Culture, Leadership, Wellbeing & Performance.”

https://au.linkedin.com/company/shane-mccurry-thought-leadership

#micdrop
 

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