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Poupou Escobar

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Listen moron, where did I say at any cost, if you feel like insulting me or anyone, please actually come to a game and do it in person.
This is a discussion board, not an opportunity for you to continue to try and be superior. As I have said before , people that post insults etc are a big reason that blogs and social media finds less and less contributors . No one is completely correct, certainly not you.
You make a valid point you f**king shit merkin.
 

Poupou Escobar

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So if Gutho doesnt stay who plays fullback next season....
Smith? French? Dunster? Fullback is unlikely to be our best position next year but with the money we save on Gutherson we can improve in other areas. Our huge wingers mean we don't need a big fullback. In fact a quicker fullback would be nice with our new found desire to offload.
 

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Guth sits just outside the top fullbacks in the game. He's worth 700k and not the million 4/5 of the elite ones are on. He's still a great player, second most metres gained, most LBAs in the comp, tied 3rd most try assists. Plus we know he's a leader and gaining more confidence in the role and he isn't a merkin off the field.
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700k is NOT elite money at all ..... its totally fair

We bitch and moan that we have no player with leadership qualities, then when we get one, we bitch and moan he wants a bit of coin and tell him to piss off .... FMD

700k x 4 is more than fair for us ..... pay him .... structure a fair chunk of it into this years cap space

And if we cant find a TPA or two for him then we will never have a TPA for anyone
 

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Guth sits just outside the top fullbacks in the game. He's worth 700k and not the million 4/5 of the elite ones are on. He's still a great player, second most metres gained, most LBAs in the comp, tied 3rd most try assists. Plus we know he's a leader and gaining more confidence in the role and he isn't a merkin off the field.

He wants more then 700k?
What did we offer?
I assumed we offered 500k

700k is a MAX for Guth. But there is always Bevan French. He was ok a year ago.
 

84 Baby

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700k is NOT elite money at all ..... its totally fair

We bitch and moan that we have no player with leadership qualities, then when we get one, we bitch and moan he wants a bit of coin and tell him to piss off .... FMD

700k x 4 is more than fair for us ..... pay him .... structure a fair chunk of it into this years cap space

And if we cant find a TPA or two for him then we will never have a TPA for anyone
As long as he doesn’t turn into Josh Reynolds
 

Happy MEel

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This x100000000

700k is NOT elite money at all ..... its totally fair

We bitch and moan that we have no player with leadership qualities, then when we get one, we bitch and moan he wants a bit of coin and tell him to piss off .... FMD

700k x 4 is more than fair for us ..... pay him .... structure a fair chunk of it into this years cap space

And if we cant find a TPA or two for him then we will never have a TPA for anyone
Yep, $700k is at the very top end of what he’s worth but in lieu of any quality replacements that appear to be available from 2020, I think we need to pay it. If we could talk him down to $650k across 4 years then all the better.

Next year’s cap is $9.8 mil, increasing to $10mil by 2022. That’s only 6.5-7% of the cap and is fair for a spine position, particularly for a good option in that position, a leader and captain, and a decent human being.

French is certainly not the answer.
 
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84 Baby

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Probably the realistic targets are DWZ, Bogan and Gordon/Brimson. Perhaps Hughes or Drinkwater.

Would you really swap Gunco for any of those plus the improvements the savings may provide? I don’t reckon DWZ or Bogan will give that mich in savings
 

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