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Delboy

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There is an interesting outcome to the Gutho contract saga.

If the club signs him, there will be criticism from all sides that the incumbents (O'Neil and Gurr ) have failed and the player manager took advantage of the so called inexperience. The media will lap it up.

Itf by some chance he signs elsewhere, the fans and sponsors will criticise them even more heavily and question yet again the way that the club handles negotiations.

O'Neil,in particular needs to articulate what is going on, what went on etc., he has no profile in this matter which is strange.

In summary, this has become an almost no win situation for the CEO and HOF , they have been allowed the media and player manager to assume the upper hand. A very difficult and tricky stalemate for the club to come out on top no matter the outcome.
 

Joshuatheeel

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IFR33K

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One can’t help but think gutho either wants top dollar from us or may return to manly. He’s really stating to look like a twat imo. Thankfully it wasn’t solely BA’s decision otherwise he may of buckled in to there original figure. He’s a good player on his day but not quite elite and may never be.
 

Glenneel

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Latrell isn’t a fullback. He doesn’t have the fitness and I doubt the ability to get it, he just doesn’t have the build for the level of fitness required.
Lattrell is the sort of player that would be a success at any position he plays imo. Shit throw him into the front row and see how he goes.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Sorry but hasn't shown enough to me to believe he'll only ever be a fringe first grader. Tell me one game where he has shown anything like taking control, or doing a fancy play or dominating his opposition, anything special? Just appears to be coasting along to me and we're not a team able to afford players coasting.

Gee imagine a 20 year rookie with only 10 games, not playing in his best position, not dominating in the NRL.......
 

Gronk

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There is an interesting outcome to the Gutho contract saga.

If the club signs him, there will be criticism from all sides that the incumbents (O'Neil and Gurr ) have failed and the player manager took advantage of the so called inexperience. The media will lap it up.

Itf by some chance he signs elsewhere, the fans and sponsors will criticise them even more heavily and question yet again the way that the club handles negotiations.

O'Neil,in particular needs to articulate what is going on, what went on etc., he has no profile in this matter which is strange.

In summary, this has become an almost no win situation for the CEO and HOF , they have been allowed the media and player manager to assume the upper hand. A very difficult and tricky stalemate for the club to come out on top no matter the outcome.

I heard a CEO or some other merkin (Gould ?) say the other day that clubs like to re-sign or move on players / coaches a year before their contract is up simply because of how the media turn it into a circus. I am sure that we had a plan to do this, if it wasn't for the wooden spoon that changed the landscape entirely. As you say, no winners in this - expect for the player managers who will remain blameless.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Hoffman hasn’t played fullback consistently in first grade for years. In fact he hasn’t played anywhere in the back line consistently for years. He doesn’t even get the regular fullback gig in reserve grade FFS. Often Bevan French or even Will Smith gets the nod in front of him at Wenty who we just agreed is Crap

Bevan French is a twig who does not like physicality. That is why he’s a reserve grader.
Gutherson hasn’t played fullback consistently either and he’s slow. I guess that makes him a reserve grader too.
 

Noise

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Gutherson hasn’t played fullback consistently either and he’s slow. I guess that makes him a reserve grader too.

What? He's played the whole of this season in the position so far (and doing it pretty well) and pretty much played there most of last season. When was the last time Hoffman, French or Will Smith played most of a season at fullback in first grade? French would be most recent but even then it's a few years ago and he was often playing wing as well
 

Joshuatheeel

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There is an interesting outcome to the Gutho contract saga.

If the club signs him, there will be criticism from all sides that the incumbents (O'Neil and Gurr ) have failed and the player manager took advantage of the so called inexperience. The media will lap it up.

Itf by some chance he signs elsewhere, the fans and sponsors will criticise them even more heavily and question yet again the way that the club handles negotiations.

O'Neil,in particular needs to articulate what is going on, what went on etc., he has no profile in this matter which is strange.

In summary, this has become an almost no win situation for the CEO and HOF , they have been allowed the media and player manager to assume the upper hand. A very difficult and tricky stalemate for the club to come out on top no matter the outcome.

Why ? To get the telecrap / hooper / Kent Hadley onside?

Na stuff them, it’s why we are always a basket case!! To worried about short term decisions with no plan.

Board/CEO/Hof looked like they are changing that approach, and credit to them!!

No matter what the club does they will always find an angle to get a negative eels headline!!
 

Noise

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Why ? To get the telecrap / hooper / Kent Hadley onside?

Na stuff them, it’s why we are always a basket case!! To worried about short term decisions with no plan.
I wonder if they have a good plan for a fullback and captain for 2020 if Gutho leaves?
 

Joshuatheeel

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I wonder if they have a good plan for a fullback and captain for 2020 if Gutho leaves?

Raiders didn’t until well into the offseason and they are going ok........

While the storm didn’t have anyone locked into the position either .......

Anyhow French at fullback and strengthening another position, wouldn’t be the worse outcome either. We now have big wingers able to take pressure of French. It could actually be a plus, the opposition may no longer kick to Ferguson, they may kick to French freeing up Ferguson.
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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Why ? To get the telecrap / hooper / Kent Hadley onside?

Na stuff them, it’s why we are always a basket case!! To worried about short term decisions with no plan.

Board/CEO/Hof looked like they are changing that approach, and credit to them!!

No matter what the club does they will always find an angle to get a negative eels headline!!

Yep, the good thing about our current setup with board elections is that they don't have to worry as much about appeasing fans like previous boards.

And manly have a similar amount of players off-contract this year yet not one word about that in the media, because they're irrelevant and their fans probably don't care how many or which of their players are off-contract.
 

Bazal

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Hang on, you'll get Bazal's dandruff up, he still thinks hes a winger ffs.

I gotta say, financially, it's been great using my own home to generate income whilst I live rent free in your head.

Sure, it's a Salvador Dali horror show in there where nothing makes sense and madness is only ever one wrong step away, but I'm making a killing!
 

Avenger

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Hang on, you'll get Bazal's dandruff up, he still thinks hes a winger ffs.

Everyone's a winger, baby, that's the truth (yes, the truth)
Making love to you is such a thrill.
Everyone's a winger, baby, that's no lie (yes, no lie)
You never fail to satisfy (satisfy)
 

T-Boon

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Anyhow French at fullback and strengthening another position, wouldn’t be the worse outcome either. We now have big wingers able to take pressure of French. It could actually be a plus, the opposition may no longer kick to Ferguson, they may kick to French freeing up Ferguson.

This is a very good point. I hope somebody is in French's ear telling him to work hard because there could be an opportunity. If Gutherson splits I would cross train him at centre for the rest of the year and get French some opportunities at the back.
 

eels_fan

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You do know you can approach the club and make an enquiry don't you. Happens all the time with other clubs but apparently not ours according to some of our fans. The Nikorima potential move is a current case in point.

Warriors approached the broncos and sought permission to speak with him, which was granted. That’s the only way it works. Case in point the Eels accusing the warriors of trying to speak with Brown before the deadline
 

Bazal

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Warriors approached the broncos and sought permission to speak with him, which was granted. That’s the only way it works. Case in point the Eels accusing the warriors of trying to speak with Brown before the deadline

He has never understood that clubs like Brisbane can say "get stuffed"...
 

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