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oldmancraigy

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It wasn't my assessment of "murderers, thieves, drunkards, sedition(ers?), adulterers", it was Izzy's. He said that if they don't cease, disist and repent, they will be living next door to George Pell in the afterlife.

Are they good for society ? if everyone on that list got culled in society there wouldn't be many of us left.

I agree with your point. Just think what you said illustrates that his post was far from targeting one segment. He shot the blunderbuss at us all right?
 

Gronk

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I agree with your point. Just think what you said illustrates that his post was far from targeting one segment. He shot the blunderbuss at us all right?

The targeting of one segment was apparent simply because homosexuals can’t repent, change their ways etc. No more than me saying that Izzy can go to heaven if he stops being 6’5”. The rest of the sinners can (repent and go to heaven).
 

Incorrect

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Mybe is bog average.
I think he's a nice fella, and at a stretch he can play any of the 1,6,7 or 9, even centre like he has been tonight, but he's not elite in any of them. He's a 350K utility at best IMO. Not a starter anymore. The folks at the Tigers who signed off the Josh Reynolds and Mbye deals need atomic wedgies post haste!!
 

Poupou Escobar

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I believe by homosexuals they refer to men having sex with men rather than men being attracted to men.

Thoughtcrime is forgivable in the book from which Folau and his ilk draw their moral code, because merkins can't help how they feel.
 

Happy MEel

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The bible also promotes slavery in Leviticus 25:44-46 and suggests we should stone our sons if they are rebellious in Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

It is a book that was written a very long time ago for a very different world. People like Izzy use it as a shield to be a shit human.

If Izzy actively promoted slavery or stoning family members, do you reckon he still has a contract and the general public are crying “religious freedom”?

The fact homosexuality is less socially acceptable (as sad as that is) than heterosexuality is the only reason people are sticking up for the f**kwit.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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The bible also promotes slavery in Leviticus 25:44-46 and suggests we should stone our sons if they are rebellious in Deuteronomy 21:18-21.

It is a book that was written a very long time ago for a very different world. People like Izzy use it as a shield to be a shit human.

If Izzy actively promoted slavery or stoning family members, do you reckon he still has a contract and the general public are crying “religious freedom”?

The fact homosexuality is less socially acceptable (as sad as that is) is the only reason people are sticking up for the f**kwit.
The Old Testament (home of Leviticus and Deuteronomy) was written for the survival and prosperity of an ethnocultural group (Hebrews) at the expense of its hostile neighbours. The New Testament (upon which Christianity is supposedly based) appears to promote a very different agenda. I've always wondered why the two books are bundled together.
 

Glenneel

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In non-monogamous societies poor men usually never married. They couldn't afford to support a wife and kids so they didn't have them. Did you know genetics shows that modern humans are descended from twice as many women as men? This is why.

Briefly in human history, under Christianity, the losers in life got to get married and pass on their loser genes. Now that the West is secular and people are (theoretically) free to f**k whomever they want it has returned to the old days when only powerful men fathered children (or got laid at all).

Is sex with a partner of your choice a human right? Sure it is. But only if you can find someone else who wants to. Otherwise 'love' is only something better men than you get to have. Or gay men.
Maybe if Jesus and his apostles worked as hard as they preached they could afford to be married. But it was still unusual for so many men to hang around together and apparently not be married in their 20s or 30s. You have to remember that life expectancy back then was only about 40-50.
 

Glenneel

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It's impossible for a whole squad to underperform all at once. It was a combination of bad recruitment, low confidence & internal issues. That's why there was a massive review.

Look at our recruitment atm, can't you see it's changed?
Maybe because BA is not the sole person doing it now. And they've seemed to develop a harder edge in negotiations by not signing people to ridiculous contracts, both in amount and term.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Maybe if Jesus and his apostles worked as hard as they preached they could afford to be married. But it was still unusual for so many men to hang around together and apparently not be married in their 20s or 30s. You have to remember that life expectancy back then was only about 40-50.
I don't know if you've ever been to Afghanistan but that place has plenty of unmarried men in their 20s and 30s. They all hang around together because whom the f**k else are they going to hang around with? Women aren't part of public life, just as they weren't in the Judea/Samaria region 2000 years ago.

Situational homosexuality is a thing in these societies but if you get the chance to talk to any of these unmarried Afghans, nearly all of them state getting married to be their consuming goal in life. But money is hard to come by, and investing it is even harder. Saving is almost impossible - in these places if you have cash your friends and relatives expect you to be generous with it.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Maybe because BA is not the sole person doing it now. And they've seemed to develop a harder edge in negotiations by not signing people to ridiculous contracts, both in amount and term.
Just like at the big clubs, the coach shouldn't be the one recruiting and negotiating contracts by himself. But I do agree we are more likely to be playing hardball with players and managers at the moment, which is why we've only signed Gutherson (after protracted negotiations) for 2020.

But to say our recruitment has been different this year but the same in every previous year is demonstrably false. Recruiting is different every f**king year, because every year there is a different set of players off contract and therefore a different set of needs in the squad.
 

TheRam

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But from his point of view he isn't wishing his hell on anyone, he genuinely doesn't want people to go there. It's the old analogy, if someone is about to walk into a fire you stop them. From his point of view, if he stays quiet, then people are walking into that fire, and to not warn them is unloving. That's the perspective he is coming from.

I disagree with Izzys hell and I think the theology has been messed up but I can understand or see it from his view to some degree. Does Izzy want gays to burn? If he did, then that's hate speech, does he want to save them from burning, then he's trying to help from his perspective.

Well thank the f**k for Izzy, cos no one's ever heard that sh*t before.

Mate he is full of himself. Wanting to publicly preach to everyone his faiths hateful and destructive beliefs. Damning a whole section of society to Hell isn't the way you help people. Especially the young who are still struggling to work out life and were they will fit in. That sort of rhetoric only allows for more hate to linger in our society by those inclined to be swayed by it and feel they have the moral right and justification to be bigoted arseholes because of it.

Not to mention the harmful mental toll if can have on our young and old that have a different lifestyle to the great puritan that is known as Israel Folau.

He got what he deserved in my opinion. He was working for a private company with a set of standards that they expect all their employees to adhere to that promotes a positive and inclusive culture. His posts were contrary to that. Sure he has freedom of speech, and I would defend him for it even though I don't agree one bit of what he is saying. No one is stopping him from it as long as he does it as a non representative of the ARU.

He is free to say whatever he likes now.
 

TheRam

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The scriptures simply say 'will not inherit the kingdom of God, says nothing about hell. In fact Paul who wrote the scripture never mentions hell in any of his letters. Izzy is playing theoligical gymnastics.

Sure, but if you don't get to go to the Kingdom of God, then what's left, Hell?
 

Tooooks

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The Eels are preparing to launch an almighty bid for Brisbane forward Matt Lodge.

Off-contract at the Broncos, Lodge is eager to move back closer to where he was raised in Western Sydney.

Tough and hard-working, Lodge is exactly what the Parramatta pack is crying out for .

Watch for the Eels to offer Lodge a four year multi-million dollar deal.
 

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