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Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. Happy MEel

    Happy MEel First Grade

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    Fair point Rammy and perhaps Utoikamanu/Kaufusi can play that big bopper role for us. I just think the money we’d have to outlay for an arrow, might be better served.
     
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  2. hindy111

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    Based on form
    Gower,Jnr, Manu and Lane seem our most important forwards
     
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  3. Poupou Escobar

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    He would. He's a better player than Brown or Paulo, and would cost more than both.
     
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  4. TheRam

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    By the way he carries himself on and off the field ffs. He speaks well and leads by example. He is a leader. Better already then anyone we have in our forward rotation. His representative appearances are testimony to that also. Just open your God damn eyes Pou.

    Or better yet, f**k your eyes merkin.
     
  5. TheRam

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    Amended.

    No, I would find a way to offload most of the other NRL experienced forwards in our roster and replace them with juniors or new cheap recruits with hopefully some potential to make the NRL.

    At the moment we are carrying to many similar ordinary NRL forwards. We should replace them with quality and young potential up comers. We should be able to afford the team of forwards that I have listed if we cull the excess to requirements.
     
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  6. Happy MEel

    Happy MEel First Grade

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    Serious? He’s three games back from a pretty decent shoulder injury and has averaged over 150m from an average 52 minutes per game (18 runs). This includes 35 post contact metres per game. He’s doing fine.
     
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  7. Happy MEel

    Happy MEel First Grade

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    I think you have to include Nrown in that list purely by the lift in our performances since his return. Whether it is his output on the field or the leadership he brings, we are an infinitely better team with him in it.
     
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  8. TheRam

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    Of course if he is over priced, then we should not recruit him. What is over priced? The amount that tips our roster off balance and compromised the quality of the top 20 or so players and that is for the football department to workout.
     
  9. Happy MEel

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    I don’t think you can have this conversation without considering his price. Otherwise, why aren’t we also talking about recruiting Cam Smith, Luke Keary, Boyd Cordner, Kalyn Ponga, Taumolo etc.
     
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    Price is relevant on the rest of the roster and irrelevant in isolation. But quality is always relevant no matter what Pou, something you can't seem to grasp. Also who knows we might be in a position of acquiring TPA finally. Who the F knows?
     
  11. Eelementary

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    The only issue is Utoikamanu is unproven, whereas Arrow is an Origin forward.

    I rate Stefano very highly, but he could - in theory - turn out to be a fizzer at First Grade level; at least there is a degree of certainty there with Arrow that you know what you'll get.
     
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  12. Happy MEel

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    Absolutely. If they were both evenly priced it wouldn’t even be a question. But in the age of salary caps you have to find value in your roster.

    I also don’t think we should be relying solely on an untested Utoikamanu, which is why I think Welsh would be a decent pick up. Although he is now an “origin player”, I don’t think he’d cost as much as Arrow.

    This would do nicely for next year (salaries are obviously estimates/guesses)

    1. Gutho ($650k)
    2. Fergo ($500k)
    3. Blake ($500k)
    4. Jennings ($400k)
    5. Sivo ($200k)
    6. Drown (upgrade to $500k)
    7. Moses ($850k)
    8. Paulo ($600k)
    9. Mahoney ($300k)
    10. Welsh ($500k)
    11. Lane ($400k)
    12. Mau ($400k)
    13. Nrown ($600k)

    14. Salmon ($300k)
    15. Utoikamanu ($250k)
    16. Niukore ($250k)
    17. Gower ($200k)

    18. Kaufusi ($200k)
    19. Evans ($400k)
    20. Tep ($200k)
    21. Terepo ($200k)
    22. Davies ($100k)
    23. Davey ($100k)
    24. Parry ($100k)
    25. Stone ($150k)
    26. Alvaro ($300k based on taking up option)
    27. Hoffman ($200k)
    28. French ($200k)
    29. Schneider ($100k)
    30. Smith :pensive: ($150k)

    This would come to $9.8 million, which would leave us about $400k spare.
     
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  13. Poupou Escobar

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    I think if we brought in Welch we wouldn't get much value out of him based purely on his playing ability. He would improve our defence but we have better attacking forwards, which is where the big money goes. I assume we've identified Welch as a leader, which would justify us outlaying the kind of money required to bring him here.
     
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  14. I'm a loser baby...

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    Even if he signed with us you couldn't be too confident he'd turn up.
     
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  15. Eelementary

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    Welch would be a great signing.
     
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  16. Eelementary

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    But that's our biggest weakness; we have a team with top 4 attack, but the worst defence in the league.

    Welch might help turn our defensive attitude around.
     
  17. Happy MEel

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    He’s not a standout attacking middle but he definitely gets through his work. Averaging 113 metres per game, over 2 tackle breaks per game and has an offload (15 so far). Our middle defence is exactly where we need to improve. I think someone who has learnt how to wrestle down in Melbourne is exactly what we need.
     
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  18. Happy MEel

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    Hahaha. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
     
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    Welch basically does what Alvaro did last year. Wouldn't be a bad signing, but we could do better IMO.
     
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  20. hindy111

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    Maybe. Seemed to be getting man handled a lot and passing game way out of touch. 2017 I thought he was top 10 forwards in game.
     

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