Rumours and Stuff

[Gazzamatta]

She has made a legit push for equality here. Good on her.

I'm hearing they were Female Bouncers!

 

[Stevie]

I'm hearing they were Female Bouncers!

Well they f**kin deserve to be punched just as equally as male bouncers by today’s rules FFS!!

 

[Gazzamatta]

Well they f**kin deserve to be punched just as equally as male bouncers by today’s rules FFS!!

Ouch!

 

[hindy111]

Buck passing at its best.

f**k of cun

 

[TheRam]

Geography. Maybe the weaker clubs should all relocate to the inner city.

They certainly do not all have the same amount of money. Does he mean they have the same salary cap? The key to beating the salary cap is spending more money in other areas, including support staff and junior recruitment, which also cost money.

All this shit costs money. Is it a coincidence the wealthier clubs are doing it better?

He must be talking about the program that is free to set up and run.

All excuses for badly administered clubs, just like the stuff that you and some apologists used to say about Parra when we were a basket case. Now all of a sudden Parra is able to compete on all these levels and then some so what has changed?

Oh yeah not the revenues, but the people at the top.

If you have clowns at the top, then your organisation will be a circus. Example A. The Tigers are a perfect example of a club that has a great catchment area that has produced some of the best talent the game has seen over the last 20 years. So why do they keep losing those players? Money? Bullocks! The majority of those players including Tedesco would have stayed if the Tigers management were more capable and ran things at admin and coaching level much better. They were a basket case and to some extent still are. But at least Maguire has given them some strong stability for now. Teddy and Moses for example didn't want to leave but for all the politics that was going on at the time so the Roosters and Parra were the beneficiaries.

Now the tigers have to rebuild and are seen as a troubled destination so have to pay overs. Sound familiar? It has nothing to do with how much they are spending on their back office or their coach. He is a premiership winner. But what it has to do with is a long period of bad admin and coaching decisions going back to the days where they let Fifita, Heighington and Ryan go to Cronulla. That signalled a major problem was brewing and it only got worse. But money was not the issue.

After they speared Sheens, it only got worse still with each appointment right up till they lost their last two best players in Moses and Tedesco. Example B. is Moses. He left there and came to us and was on shaky ground for a while there with his yoyo performances, but he stuck it out and some could argue has accepted slightly less to for the privilege to play here. Now why would a petulant ego driven half want to stay and be part of an organisation that actually told him he was free to leave if he so chose, but instead decided to knuckle down and work hard on and off the field to improve himself and address his weaknesses?

It wouldn't be because he knows what a sh*t run club looks like and he valued the difference between us and them. It wouldn't be because he knew that being in a stable environment with a decent roster and a coach that he respected and who played with a straight bat would reward him if he showed he was willing to sacrifice and better himself? Of course it is. It isn't always about the money. As long as you are in the ballpark most players will stay if off the field things are great and they know that they will thrive and be rewarded over the course of their careers.

Time and time again, we have seen great rosters of players stay together for less then what they could individually get for themselves because the benefits of doing so at a very well run and successful club is way better then playing for a weak and badly run club that can't sort out its difficulties and just blames it all on not being able to compete with the big boys due to money.

No excuses.

 

[Glenneel]

What Hindy and I have been saying all along. We and V'Landy's are in sync. In particular the Penrith praise. Parra need to go to the next level on our development side of things.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/we...ion-despite-great-divide-20210403-p57gb3.html

‘We won’t promote mediocrity’: NRL pushing ahead with expansion despite great divide

“You don’t introduce measures that are going to promote mediocrity.

“It’s up to the clubs to look at their rosters and their systems. Why can Melbourne be so successful? Why can the Roosters and Souths be so successful?

“You can use that as a model. They all have the same money, so they have to look at how they spend their money.

“Why is Penrith so successful? Because they look after participation.

“They get rewarded for being proactive. I take my hat off to Penrith because they are a club that everyone should look at. Look at how much they spend on junior development, how much they spend on junior participation. Look at the initiative to go into country areas and start up their academies.

“Rather than talking about lopsided games, let’s look at the teams that are models to be looked at for success.

...“Because it’s all about how you get your roster and grow your participation.

...V’landys put the onus back on struggling clubs to improve their performances.

“When you look at the successful clubs, the common element is not just the roster; it’s the program they have to bring players through,” he said.

Its funny but the two clubs mentioned, Roosters and Souths don't have juniors, not in the traditional sense, if using Penrith and Parramatta as examples. In fact Souths spends nothing on junior development and Roosters only minimal when compared to the western clubs. Still contend that ARL (or similar body) should do the spending on juniors and have draft system similar AFL.

 

[TheRam]

Its funny but the two clubs mentioned, Roosters and Souths don't have juniors, not in the traditional sense, if using Penrith and Parramatta as examples. In fact Souths spends nothing on junior development and Roosters only minimal when compared to the western clubs. Still contend that ARL (or similar body) should do the spending on juniors and have draft system similar AFL.

Yes, true about the Roosters and Souths, but that is where if you have a well run club(hired the best available people in the right rolls) you can then identify and poach the best around the country and pay more then your rivals(because you don't spend on development).

There is more then one model of success. These two have chosen the buy the best young talent and have the best coaches system. I don't like this model at all and if we all did it, where would the game be in a decade or so?

I have always said, the NRL should demand that ALL clubs spend a substantial portion of the back office money on junior development. Like over a $1m each and every year. I would look at what clubs like Canberra and Penrith spend and how they spend it and make it mandatory that all the NRL clubs spend and do the same if not more.

There should be an audit and KPI's tracking each clubs contribution and allocation of funds and tangible outcomes must be visible. If a club breaches this most important of requirements to be a NRL franchise, then the NRL withholds the total amount say it's $1m from that clubs Salary cap money and spends it for them the correct way in the areas that the clubs should have in the first place. That amount then is taken off the following years salary cap for that club. In other words, the club can only spend $12m if the cap is $13m. That would ensure that all clubs would make sure that they abide by the rules and spend to propagate the game like never before and which is way over due.

If we set this up properly the game within a few short years would be burgeoning with new talent that would have otherwise been neglected and missed completely. The knock on affect of this would be enormous.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

All excuses for badly administered clubs, just like the stuff that you and some apologists used to say about Parra when we were a basket case. Now all of a sudden Parra is able to compete on all these levels and then some so what has changed?

Not the coach

Oh yeah not the revenues, but the people at the top.

I think you'll find we became far more attractive for external funding since we were forced into administration and then had our constitution changed.

 

[Gronk]

 

[Gazzamatta]

Good. Not what we need given his pay packet. Marata is our man.

 

[Cloeel]

Good. Not what we need given his pay packet. Marata is our man.

Sounds a bit desperate.

Huge money invested in a bloke coming off an ACL injury with the added risk of guaranteeing him the 5/8 role?

Although if it turns out to be a master stroke and he performs at 5/8 it could be seen as a bargain. Interesting times at the Broncos that's for sure!

 

[lucablight]

Good. Not what we need given his pay packet. Marata is our man.

Niukore is not going to be our long term centre and rightfully so.

 

[strider]

It feels like the Broncos have had a whole string of backs who they just dont know what position to play .... milford: half/fullback; bird: half/fullback; boyd: fullback/centre/half; isaako: wing/centre/fullback; staggs: centre/half

 

[Gronk]

Niukore is not going to be our long term centre and rightfully so.

BA said as much in the presser. He's low in troops and prolly does not want to waste a Top 30 on Laffai just yet.

 

[Delboy]

Its funny but the two clubs mentioned, Roosters and Souths don't have juniors, not in the traditional sense, if using Penrith and Parramatta as examples. In fact Souths spends nothing on junior development and Roosters only minimal when compared to the western clubs. Still contend that ARL (or similar body) should do the spending on juniors and have draft system similar AFL.

Souths Juniors one of the biggest clubs in Sydney fund their junior clubs to the extent of paying for playing strips and regos. Their junior league is relatively strong, not at Parra/Riff level, but around Dogs for a level.

 

[TheRam]

It feels like the Broncos have had a whole string of backs who they just dont know what position to play .... milford: half/fullback; bird: half/fullback; boyd: fullback/centre/half; isaako: wing/centre/fullback; staggs: centre/half

That's because they don't have a decent half so everyone becomes an option.

 

[Happy MEel]

This isn’t going to get exploited at all

 

[Happy MEel]

From above: 18th man is within the top 30 and can be used in the event of foul play.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Niukore is not going to be our long term centre and rightfully so.

Probably not but he's the best in our club even when Waqa is fit. We could do worse and to be honest, we have. He's definitely missed in the middle off the bench though.

 

[Gazzamatta]

From above: 18th man is within the top 30 and can be used in the event of foul play.

Radio report said only as a result of sin bin or send off for foul play resulting in a player not returning. So relating to the attack on Matto it wouldn't apply. What?