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I can't believe how shit Brisbane must be to be beaten by the team coming last (and not by a field goal but by 14 points).
Brisbane never were in a “premiership window” or a team expected to challenge for the premiership. Unlike Parra. The fact is we lose to the lower team more often than not because our choking coach of 9 years fails to get them up mentally and match ready games. Stop trying to defend 9 years of failure.
 

lucablight

First Grade
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It doesn't matter what merkins thought of them, in round one they already had the talent that is obvious now after 18 games.
Maybe they hasn’t clicked yet like Penrith hadn’t in 2019.
It's possible but they have had good junior recruitment for a very long time (they've produced some guns, including big name players currently at other clubs). They have some quality young players who just won an Origin series. It's possible we'll look back and realise we underrated them.
A lot of those origin players wouldn’t have been picked if they were eligible for NSW. They got in courtesy of QLD having a smaller selection pool.
 

The Predictor

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Brisbane never were in a “premiership window” or a team expected to challenge for the premiership. Unlike Parra. The fact is we lose to the lower team more often than not because our choking coach of 9 years fails to get them up mentally and match ready games. Stop trying to defend 9 years of failure.
Brisbane never were in a “premiership window” or a team expected to challenge for the premiership. Unlike Parra. The fact is we lose to the lower team more often than not because our choking coach of 9 years fails to get them up mentally and match ready games. Stop trying to defend 9 years of failure.
Agreed, he obviously can’t see that, and would rather be a smart ass….anything to defend the indefensible!
 

TheRam

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Last night was great no doubt about it, even though regular shortcomings were still evident

But the fact remain that last nights son does not erase the chance we can miss the eight

And the inevitable selection of JA can now turn that change from slim (which it was at 1030 last night) to a real possibility.

The fact that BA has curated that scenario is what is worrying and frustrating Parra supporters

Welcome mate.

I like your posts mate. You seem smart and logical up to now. Lets hope you stay that way and don't join the dark side with the apologists somehow down the road.

Rage. It's where it's at. :D
 

TheRam

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We would struggle whoever the backup half is. Moses' kicking game is that important to us. But if you think Will Smith has a worse kicking game than Jake Arthur you're off your head. If there are better kicking games in reserve grade than Jake Arthur's they would belong to players who can't tackle.

What?

Jake Arthur can't tackle. To be clear, that is the biggest problem he has in first grade, tackling and he has a few.

He is a massive liability and the players around him then stuff up their game worrying about his. He is no where near NRL standard. The more he plays the worse at this stage he will be for us because opposing coaches and players will have greater sample sizes to watch and lick their lips with anticipation at exploiting his slow and nervous defensive reactions.
 

hindy111

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Welcome mate.

I like your posts mate. You seem smart and logical up to now. Lets hope you stay that way and don't join the dark side with the apologists somehow down the road.

Rage. It's where it's at. :D

What's your thoughts Ram on who should play halfback with Moses out.
I'm hearing the Storm will sign Tapau. And a back before deadline.
We will promote someone within.

Late to the dance once again
 

emjaycee

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Brisbane never were in a “premiership window” or a team expected to challenge for the premiership. Unlike Parra. The fact is we lose to the lower team more often than not because our choking coach of 9 years fails to get them up mentally and match ready games. Stop trying to defend 9 years of failure.
So going into last night's game Brisbane were not considered premiership material despite running 5th at the time? Ok then.

And you need to lighten up a bit. I wasnt defending 9 years of failure mate, simply having a dig at those posters on here who hang their every comment for every loss onto the coach and don't recognise the fact that lots of things go into winning a game of football. And yes, whilst the buck stops with the coach (as it should), there are also things outside of his control that can result in a loss or in the players not turning up and performing how we would expect and want.

Does that need to change? Yes.
Does it mean BA has to go? Probably.

Everyone on here knows some posters dont want BA here, we get it, we got it in round 2 FFS. The histrionics, the single-focus and the repetativeness of some posters is simply getting to be a bit over the top. And it isn't actually funny anymore but I guess it makes them feel good about themselves.
 

TheRam

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Why? It'll be a pretty big contributing factor.

What would be equally of contributing factor would be their in ability to win consistently all year wouldn't you say.

And it is the coaches job to have them in the right head space to do that which he clearly hasn't been able to do with a roster that he has helped build. The buck stops there wouldn't you say?
 

TheRam

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The state of the competition is such that we should be able to make the 8 even with Moses missing for 4 games.

You would think and yet not many are all that confident. Speaks volumes about our coach who has been tinkering with this roster for nearly a decade and still can't get them to be a top 3 defensive team, let alone win the damn thing.
 

TheRam

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Who's fullback? I'd go a little ldft field and throw Hands in. His time has come.

The problem with that Hindy is putting way to much pressure on a debutant who is still coming to terms with playing in the halves in the lower grades. Dylan is not all that experienced himself at being the big banana in the drivers seat either, so I would rather put someone like Gutho, who won't be over oared next to him to steady things and take some pressure off as well. Also it helps as you say defensively putting Gutho there as opposed to Jake or another young kid at this point.

Fullback, my choice would be Russell. I would love to see what this kid can do in his preferred spot. He deserves a shot back in the NRL too. Baily would be the other option, but I'm just slightly leaning towards Russell. I think he may have a lot more upside in the NRL long term and he is a bigger body.
 

Wally21

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Biggest impact will be the kicking game, which is a pretty integral part of the reason we do anything, no matter who we put in. Not handy.
And that is exactly the issue. I don’t believe JA should be anywhere near 1st’s, but I worry he is the only real option from a kicking perspective. Doesn’t make up for the other areas of his game where he has a significant amount of improvement to do, (still can’t see him playing NRL), but we rely so heavily on Moses kicking, do we have no choice?
 

Soto

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So going into last night's game Brisbane were not considered premiership material despite running 5th at the time? Ok then.

And you need to lighten up a bit. I wasnt defending 9 years of failure mate, simply having a dig at those posters on here who hang their every comment for every loss onto the coach and don't recognise the fact that lots of things go into winning a game of football. And yes, whilst the buck stops with the coach (as it should), there are also things outside of his control that can result in a loss or in the players not turning up and performing how we would expect and want.

Does that need to change? Yes.
Does it mean BA has to go? Probably.

Everyone on here knows some posters dont want BA here, we get it, we got it in round 2 FFS. The histrionics, the single-focus and the repetativeness of some posters is simply getting to be a bit over the top. And it isn't actually funny anymore but I guess it makes them feel good about themselves.
I'm not the biggest BA fan either and believe he should've been punted when we got the spoon. He is our coach and wish him and the team only but success.
JA will be the 7. We all need to accept that wrongly or rightly. I wouldn't pick but I'm not the coach.
The two obvious players that need to play their best for the next few weeks whilst Moses is out are Dylbro and Guth.
They've asked for the big bucks. Time to really stand up and deliver without Mitch.
If everyone else also plays to their best JA factor really shouldn't be a contributing factor. As I said I wouldn't pick him but he has been a halfback his whole life. Needs to distribute well, make his tackles, be energetic and kick into space. I don't think we should be trying to replicate Mitch's kicking game simply because we can't. I'd be kicking out or to where the pigeons are.
Our energy and intensity needs to be ON from the opening whistle for 80 minutes.
If they all do their job then we can win all the remaining matches.
It really is incumbent on everyone basically playing their best games. This is when everyone needs to go next level.
The learnings from previous years are that now is the time ramp it up.
 

yy_cheng

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The problem with that Hindy is putting way to much pressure on a debutant who is still coming to terms with playing in the halves in the lower grades. Dylan is not all that experienced himself at being the big banana in the drivers seat either, so I would rather put someone like Gutho, who won't be over oared next to him to steady things and take some pressure off as well. Also it helps as you say defensively putting Gutho there as opposed to Jake or another young kid at this point.

Fullback, my choice would be Russell. I would love to see what this kid can do in his preferred spot. He deserves a shot back in the NRL too. Baily would be the other option, but I'm just slightly leaning towards Russell. I think he may have a lot more upside in the NRL long term and he is a bigger body.
That's what I would like to see

But another alternative would be

1. Guth
6. Matto
7. Dyl

11 marata
13 ice

We don't use our bench for long periods anyway so better give marata more time.

At least he is proven at nrl level

Then nrown in for marata

Now nrown is sorted at the dogs, there is no point holding him back

Admittedly, I've never seen matto kick but you never know. He was a half in the old days

They read somewhere they say paulo is a really good kicker but he would probably kick the ball from commbank to Accor stadium and they'll lose the ball
 

Wally21

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we've got 2 spots open in the top 30 apparently

we need a decent half for the next month or so

Promote Rankin ffs, he's a class above the other options
Twiz, if they promote him into the top 30 he can play right? I like it. He seems to be the sort of player that others rally around
 

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