Rumours and Stuff

[the phantom menace]

Gutherson
Sivo
Penisini
Simonssen
Russell

Chances are there's an injury at some point in the trial or early rounds anyway.... but if Blake isn't pushed out of the club early, I guess he gets a gig in the centres since we're paying him more than Simonssen/Russell.

 

[JokerEel]

All that but still has’t won anything. Edwards is probably the best Fullback behind Teddy. And yeah he has won 2 Comps.

500k sounds about on the money for Edwards before his next contract.

Best behind Teddy

I had high hopes for you.

 

[Avenger]

Best behind Teddy

I had high hopes for you.

I’m not a fan but Latrell has more talent in his foreskin.

 

[lucablight]

Maybe. He scored three tries against a very poor defensive side in the Titans, and our left winger scores plenty no matter who plays there. Russell doesn't make enough metres for a winger, even in reserve grade.

He’s a better finisher than Simonsson because he appears to have higher footy IQ.

 

[hindy111]

Need to give you guys some insights besides the stuff you read on TCT.

All players that we acquired came with very poor conditioning. They all need to get fitter. The exception has been Hodgson. One in particular was in terrible condition but he has an excuse because he was returning from an ACL. Nobody apart from Hodgson has stood out like Papali’i did a few years back. I think we are hoping more than realising that our recruits are quite standard because we have already put most of our chips in the spine, the frontrow and upgraded a few others.

I assume you mean Doorey was in terrible condition?

I reckon our best hopes to turn a few heads are already at the club. Matalele,Tevita are the younger guys with upside.Ogden and Greig are big units who can still offer something if where fit and firing. And Bryce Cartwright still has the skill.

 

[hindy111]

Yeah and he might be a chance of playing every game on the wing this year. If he plays fullback it will mean Gutherson was unavailable.

Agreed. But I also thought Simonsson looked better at centre than wing.

Sample size to small on Simmonson

 

[hindy111]

I’m not a fan but Latrell has more talent in his foreskin.

Did you see the semi-final when Penrith exposed Latrell in defense? There are two sides of the game. Edwards doesn't get exposed and a fullbacks job is to set defensive line.
Latrells positional play in defense is atrocious

 

[Avenger]

Did you see the semi-final when Penrith exposed Latrell in defense? There are two sides of the game. Edwards doesn't get exposed and a fullbacks job is to set defensive line.
Latrells positional play in defense is atrocious

Like I said I’m not a fan. However he is more talented than Edwards. Edwards is just a younger, less talented but cheaper version of Gutherson.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He’s a better finisher than Simonsson because he appears to have higher footy IQ.

Simonsson scored a lot more frequently for the Raiders, and it's not because he was a better finisher then. Who scores the tries in a team is as much about the team as it is about the try scorer.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sample size to small on Simmonson

It's the only sample we have though. He looked good at centre.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Did you see the semi-final when Penrith exposed Latrell in defense? There are two sides of the game. Edwards doesn't get exposed and a fullbacks job is to set defensive line.
Latrells positional play in defense is atrocious

Edwards doesn't get exposed because the game is mostly played in the opposition half.

 

[hindy111]

It's the only sample we have though. He looked good at centre.

So did Waqa but before our backline was decimated.

 

[hindy111]

Edwards doesn't get exposed because the game is mostly played in the opposition half.

What did you say? TEAM EFFORT

f**king rabbit

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What did you say? TEAM EFFORT

f**king rabbit

Right, so you have to judge Edwards with regard to the team around him. He is a good tackler and makes a lot of metres, but his weaknesses are hidden by the rest of the team. That’s not the case with most players. For example, at the Roosters they didn’t need Mitchell to play fullback, so his lack of stamina wasn’t a factor the way it is at Souths.

 

[Black Panther]

Like Dylan Edwards.

CC Medalists are far from ordinary. You are a real bad judge mate.

 

[Black Panther]

How many Origin games has Edwards played?

None mate, what’s your point here? He’s all of a sudden ordinary because he hasn’t played Origin?

What would you rather do, win 2 GF’s and a CC Medal or play Origin?

 

[hindy111]

Right, so you have to judge Edwards with regard to the team around him. He is a good tackler and makes a lot of metres, but his weaknesses are hidden by the rest of the team. That’s not the case with most players. For example, at the Roosters they didn’t need Mitchell to play fullback, so his lack of stamina wasn’t a factor the way it is at Souths.

You're probably right.

 

[Incorrect]

It's pretty easy to take less money, and remain loyal, when you're signing for the reigning Premiers...

My counter point to that would be that it's probably easier to jump ship for the extra cash once you've won a premiership, let alone 2 in the case of Crighton. I would say it's harder to jump for extra cash because more than likely, and as is the case for Crighton, he is being offered a lot more by a weaker team. So, in the case of Moses - do you take the extra 100-200K a year to go to the Dogs or Tigers but start from scratch at a premiership tilt? Or do you look at the team you've got at Parra and say to yourself, my best chance at a premiership is staying with the Eels?

Crighton has 2 premierships now. What's left to prove at the Panthers? And if they can't get anywhere near the Bulldogs offer, why would he stay? He's still got plenty of years in him at NRL level - the challenge of turning the Dogs in to a contender in the next 4-5 years might hold genuine appeal (+plenty of extra $$'s)

So yeah, I reckon it's harder to take less money and remain loyal when you're re-signing for the reigning Premiers...

 

[TheCrowe]

Maybe. He scored three tries against a very poor defensive side in the Titans, and our left winger scores plenty no matter who plays there. Russell doesn't make enough metres for a winger, even in reserve grade.

Russell was sometimes getting rag dolled in reserves while Cini was regularly dragging multiple defenders with him.

 

[King-Gutho94]

He won't be able to carry on like a clown Luai and To'o on the field if he leaves.

My counter point to that would be that it's probably easier to jump ship for the extra cash once you've won a premiership, let alone 2 in the case of Crighton. I would say it's harder to jump for extra cash because more than likely, and as is the case for Crighton, he is being offered a lot more by a weaker team. So, in the case of Moses - do you take the extra 100-200K a year to go to the Dogs or Tigers but start from scratch at a premiership tilt? Or do you look at the team you've got at Parra and say to yourself, my best chance at a premiership is staying with the Eels?







Crighton has 2 premierships now. What's left to prove at the Panthers? And if they can't get anywhere near the Bulldogs offer, why would he stay? He's still got plenty of years in him at NRL level - the challenge of turning the Dogs in to a contender in the next 4-5 years might hold genuine appeal (+plenty of extra $$'s)







So yeah, I reckon it's harder to take less money and remain loyal when you're re-signing for the reigning Premiers...