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TheRam

Coach
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Big question will be what we do with Matterson upon his return. I suspect off the bench and play in the middle for 60

I think the most important question is why hasn't our defense improved again this season?

Year on year our shortcomings hardly ever get sorted or addressed.

Matterson will slot into the team probably on the edge since we have managed to pick up an even better and more consistent 13 in the very impressive Hopgood. I had a feeling he was going to be the player we see now when we signed him last year, but was just waiting to see how he would adjust to us and how we would use him. He is the one and only bright spot I can see that has made us a better team then last year. Losing Papalii is not as major loss as long as Matterson can suck it up and play to his ability on the edge when called upon.

We are still living on the edge with Hodgson and there is no backup if he goes down. If by some miracle he survives the full season, then we have lost very little there too.

But our defense is pathetic even allowing for the two missing back rowers. We actually should be even slightly better defensively considering how good defensively Hopgood is all over the park and yet we are even worse then last season so far. Why have we still not addressed this after so many seasons???

Look at the Cowboys, they addressed it in one off season.

As for Brown, what the Hell is he on? He is playing like he doesn't know anyone out there. His head is not in the game. I look at one of my 3 favourite non Parra players Tom Dreardon(the other 2 are Drinkwater and R. Walsh) and he is always switched on and ready to exploit any opportunity or switched off defenses. Brown just basically parks himself and waits for things to happen or the ball to come to him. Sh*t lazy tactical philosophy. He, Moses, Gutho and Hodgo should all be scheming and probing all the time in combinations and all over the field. Brown is always touted as being second or 3rd fittest at the club, so fitness isn't a problem. Laziness and disinterest seem to be. I think he is naturally more gifted then Dearden, but Dearden leaves him for dead on output and overall game contribution almost every round and I bet Dearden isn't on $800K.

The two most glaring issues we have had that stand out like Kong balls are our lack of 3rd and or 4th front row options and our mid level defense. So on viewing the 2 opening rounds I feel that neither has been addressed almost at all...AGAIN. Therefore adding Hodgo's precarious injury prone knees(I noticed him and the other players stretching in the dressing rooms and at warm up the old fashion way) I can't see us holding up any silverware again this year.

The Oracle has spoken.

What a useless coach. Ten fu*king years to get it right for fu*k sake! This is so painful to watch each freaking year. At least I have the Dolphins this year as my back up team. Does anyone think Bennett would have gone more then a season without addressing our defense?

This team has been together more or less for 3+ seasons so they should be in the top 3 defensive team structures and stats by now, but instead they still can't tackle. I get that the middles or lack there of are causing much of the instability when we lose shape, but he has had many seasons to address this and he hasn't. Why are we still persisting with him? Or at least someone above him should over rule him and get it addressed FFS!!!

It is sooooooo freakin painful. After the intercept and then the following try, I tuned out. I couldn't watch anymore. I'm over ruining my weekends for these dumb arse, never learning or improving, all talkers. It will be funny watching Junior tell us all tonight that they are hungry for success and they are desperate to go one better. While anyone with a brain can see there is absolutely no improvement in the overall squad, even allowing for the inclusion of Hopgood. No new middles(boppers) means no real improvement when he and his mate are off. Only a Steven Bradbury scenario will bring the bacon home.

I watch in delay and as soon as I get a whiff of capitulation and failure I fast forward to the end. I'm not wasting 2 hours of my time to be disappointed and miserable at the end. I can spend my time in much more enjoyable ways. Cheers
 

Gazzamatta

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That’s not true at all, which is why the stats exist in the first place. The stats tell us why we are 0 and 2, and contrary to your claim it’s not because of our attack. See how stats tell us more than just whether we won or lost? They tell us why. Without them, dopes can make up any reason that suits their preconceptions. Maybe we lost because Jake Arthur isn’t on the bench?
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Delboy

First Grade
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Spoke to a couple of non Parra junior rep coaches and asked what they saw as the issue with defence.

They said that the same system has been used for the past few seasons and if they saw it at their level consistently, it would be attacked as we see other teams do.

the defence compresses when in the opposition 20/30 to challenge them to go wide which is the right tactic and as they retreat they don’t fan out and this leaves space when the winger moves out and there are ongoing gaps . That’s exactly how the Sharks and Storm came at us, and the Sharks speed did the damage.

How do the Dolphins attack, the hooker just creates momentum at the ruck by threatening to run constantly which out his forwards on the front foot with short passes, then when the halves get the ball they tend to run straight first before passing most times, again opening up. Mitch and Dylan have a tendency to skip to the side, although Dylan did run straight more this last game.

To summarise what they said, spacing is an ongoing issue as we defend and hasn’t changed.Reed always threw the ball wider which allowed the opposition to slide, Hodgson is trying to bring players on , which should get better with more games.
 

TheRam

Coach
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They come into the NRL over 20yrs ago but. Grothe was 23yrs ago.
We should be producing a wing or centre every 3yrs of some quality. Not talking fringe NRL level players who are in and out of grade.
We've produced pretty much duck eggs in 20yrs bar Seminand Penisni

Manly are producing plenty of our juniors.
 

Cloeel

Juniors
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857
Spoke to a couple of non Parra junior rep coaches and asked what they saw as the issue with defence.

They said that the same system has been used for the past few seasons and if they saw it at their level consistently, it would be attacked as we see other teams do.

the defence compresses when in the opposition 20/30 to challenge them to go wide which is the right tactic and as they retreat they don’t fan out and this leaves space when the winger moves out and there are ongoing gaps . That’s exactly how the Sharks and Storm came at us, and the Sharks speed did the damage.

How do the Dolphins attack, the hooker just creates momentum at the ruck by threatening to run constantly which out his forwards on the front foot with short passes, then when the halves get the ball they tend to run straight first before passing most times, again opening up. Mitch and Dylan have a tendency to skip to the side, although Dylan did run straight more this last game.

To summarise what they said, spacing is an ongoing issue as we defend and hasn’t changed.Reed always threw the ball wider which allowed the opposition to slide, Hodgson is trying to bring players on , which should get better with more games.


Reed is doing similar at the Dogs this year.
 

yy_cheng

Coach
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Spoke to a couple of non Parra junior rep coaches and asked what they saw as the issue with defence.

They said that the same system has been used for the past few seasons and if they saw it at their level consistently, it would be attacked as we see other teams do.

the defence compresses when in the opposition 20/30 to challenge them to go wide which is the right tactic and as they retreat they don’t fan out and this leaves space when the winger moves out and there are ongoing gaps . That’s exactly how the Sharks and Storm came at us, and the Sharks speed did the damage.

How do the Dolphins attack, the hooker just creates momentum at the ruck by threatening to run constantly which out his forwards on the front foot with short passes, then when the halves get the ball they tend to run straight first before passing most times, again opening up. Mitch and Dylan have a tendency to skip to the side, although Dylan did run straight more this last game.

To summarise what they said, spacing is an ongoing issue as we defend and hasn’t changed.Reed always threw the ball wider which allowed the opposition to slide, Hodgson is trying to bring players on , which should get better with more games.
We are very stale . Our gameplan is the same over and over, year after year.

Any coach can then plan to attack any weaknesses as we do the same thing over and over and dont do it well.

As cleary said last year, hes not scared of parra unless we offload its because the opposition knows our game plan.

That's where i loved brian smith. It was a different okan each week. DA too knew that things had to change.

But ba is stubborn. Play the long game. Stick to the planned rotations. Play our expensive players more minutes. With the Kennedy try. It was reg who missed moylan
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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Who said it was about our attack
You and every other merkin who decided long ago that Arthur can’t coach attack, and Hodgson is a shit dummy half.
you are the one blowing your load at how good it was. They mean SFA when we keep looooosing!!
I don’t actually think we can make any judgement about our attack after two rounds, but the evidence (after a small sample) shows it is good. I thought our defence was poor against Cronulla but it was good against Melbourne. 0 from 2 but both games by less than a converted try means they were anybody’s. It could just as easily be 2 from 2, as in previous years.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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Sure, and in this case the stats support what I’m seeing. We are a dangerous team, but we need to stay patient and control the ball. This lines up with Arthur’s game plan too.

Why did Gutherson need to throw a risky pass when we had just taken the lead? That’s a player decision by one of our leaders. It was a time for building pressure, not Hail Marys.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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Sure, and in this case the stats support what I’m seeing. We are a dangerous team, but we need to stay patient and control the ball. This lines up with Arthur’s game plan too.

Why did Gutherson need to throw a risky pass when we had just taken the lead? That’s a player decision by one of our leaders. It was a time for building pressure, not Hail Marys.
Oh Poo! Never personal dude. 😁
 

hineyrulz

Post Whore
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You and every other merkin who decided long ago that Arthur can’t coach attack, and Hodgson is a shit dummy half.

I don’t actually think we can make any judgement about our attack after two rounds, but the evidence (after a small sample) shows it is good. I thought our defence was poor against Cronulla but it was good against Melbourne. 0 from 2 but both games by less than a converted try means they were anybody’s. It could just as easily be 2 from 2, as in previous years.
He can’t, that’s why he has gotten Barrettin to run the attack you Tithead. I did see some nice set plays and a few different things that tells me Barrett is having some effect on the way we attack. Getting Matto and Lane back and I think it improves even more. Too bad our defence is paper thin and the coach couldn’t manage a bench to save his life.
 

Soto

Bench
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He can’t, that’s why he has gotten Barrettin to run the attack you Tithead. I did see some nice set plays and a few different things that tells me Barrett is having some effect on the way we attack. Getting Matto and Lane back and I think it improves even more. Too bad our defence is paper thin and the coach couldn’t manage a bench to save his life.
I think a park bench would be more effective at the moment. Would get in the way every now and then
 

Avenger

Immortal
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Paul Momirovski has been given permission by the Roosters to negotiate with other clubs for this season. Is he just a Maco version of Opačić?

Played 57 first grade games. 14 more than when the Serb joined us in 2021. He’s turning 27 this year, two years younger than Opačić. Also has very good hands. He’d be a typical BA signing.
 

Soto

Bench
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Paul Momirovski has been given permission by the Roosters to negotiate with other clubs for this season. Is he just a Maco version of Opačić?

Played 57 first grade games. 14 more than when the Serb joined us in 2021. He’s turning 27 this year, two years younger than Opačić. Also has very good hands. He’d be a typical BA signing.
Honestly if that's the best we can do then we will struggle all year.
He's a good honest player but we have comparable players already in nsw cup.
Yes he has won a comp and played in several GFs but not what I'd be chasing.
Opacic was better
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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Paul Momirovski has been given permission by the Roosters to negotiate with other clubs for this season. Is he just a Maco version of Opačić?

Played 57 first grade games. 14 more than when the Serb joined us in 2021. He’s turning 27 this year, two years younger than Opačić. Also has very good hands. He’d be a typical BA signing.
We do have a decent record with former Yugoslav background centres.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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Paul Momirovski has been given permission by the Roosters to negotiate with other clubs for this season. Is he just a Maco version of Opačić?

Played 57 first grade games. 14 more than when the Serb joined us in 2021. He’s turning 27 this year, two years younger than Opačić. Also has very good hands. He’d be a typical BA signing.
He has been to more clubs then Phil Blake.
 

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