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strider

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I wonder if Alexander and Ennis think the same now. Still just an accident? You stuttering fools!!
I think it was an accident.

But the nrl dont seem to be ruling these accidents now. So he prob should cop some ban. Which then shows the bunker were too spineless to bin 2 broncos at the same time.

Brandy seems to think Hopgoods was the worst of the 3. I think that was probably an accident too. His body hardly ended up on the guys leg.

For some reason Brandy thought Mams was ok. Brandy is in f**kin lala land. To me that was text book hip drop. Tho i can understand how its hard to not make these kind of tackles in a split second.
 

Avenger

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I think it was an accident.

But the nrl dont seem to be ruling these accidents now. So he prob should cop some ban. Which then shows the bunker were too spineless to bin 2 broncos at the same time.

Brandy seems to think Hopgoods was the worst of the 3. I think that was probably an accident too. His body hardly ended up on the guys leg.

For some reason Brandy thought Mams was ok. Brandy is in f**kin lala land. To me that was text book hip drop. Tho i can understand how its hard to not make these kind of tackles in a split second.
Remind me which club introduced wrestling in the game ?
 

Tiger5150

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I think it was an accident.

But the nrl dont seem to be ruling these accidents now. So he prob should cop some ban. Which then shows the bunker were too spineless to bin 2 broncos at the same time.

Brandy seems to think Hopgoods was the worst of the 3. I think that was probably an accident too. His body hardly ended up on the guys leg.

For some reason Brandy thought Mams was ok. Brandy is in f**kin lala land. To me that was text book hip drop. Tho i can understand how its hard to not make these kind of tackles in a split second.

IMO it should matter where the tackler contacts the player with the ball. When all the attention turned to the"hip drop" a few years ago, merkins were doing it intentionally and grabbing the player from behind and folding under them and pulling them backwards. Incredibly dangerous.
A lot of the supposed "hip drop" tackles Ive seen this year get pulled and penalised or worse, the defender initially hits the front of the player but the attacker pushes through the tackle and the defender finds himself draggign behind the attacker, but still hanging on. In that situation, unless he lets go and lets the guy score, he is going to end up on the attackers legs.

TLDR? If you hit the front of the attacker, it shouldnt be a hip drop.
 

T-Boon

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You can tell by the way he jumped at the opportunity to accept Parras offer of a Contract.
Nah you can tell from how he stayed on less money than the tigers offered. Why does a player have to jump at a contract offer straight away? Nobody does that.
 

King-Gutho94

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I think it was an accident.

But the nrl dont seem to be ruling these accidents now. So he prob should cop some ban. Which then shows the bunker were too spineless to bin 2 broncos at the same time.

Brandy seems to think Hopgoods was the worst of the 3. I think that was probably an accident too. His body hardly ended up on the guys leg.

For some reason Brandy thought Mams was ok. Brandy is in f**kin lala land. To me that was text book hip drop. Tho i can understand how its hard to not make these kind of tackles in a split second.
Brandy has been sniffing the smug with all his mates out at Penrith in past 3 seasons.

With he and Fittler running the NSW team I am almost hoping QLD win so they can both the get boot.
 

oldmancraigy

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Do you think Haas was wrestling?

Haas was out of position to make the tackle. Reg was 1 on 1 with a smaller man (at pace) and would have scored. The only way for Haas to get back into position was to lunge with his body off his feet, and from behind, hoping to crush Reg's momentum with his body weight to stop the try.
Haas didn't mean to injure him, and wasn't trying to be dirty. But it is still a tackle that needs to be removed from the game. Hopgoods was somewhat similar (not as desperate or at pace - but he left his feet to stall momentum).

This is like the head high crackdown from years back. It worked.
Players know what they need to do, and need to adjust their technique accordingly.

If Reg scores that try because Haas chooses not to drop his hip, then so be it. It becomes a defensive decision - Haas had the option of marking Reg a step earlier, but that may have left the ballplayer 1 on 1.

In the end, these lunge and hip drops stall momentum close to the line, true, but should they? If the options are more injuries or more tries, as a fan I know what I choose
 

strider

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They probably need to stop using the term hip drop. What they are ruling as bad is your body landing on opponents legs.

The original him drop was holding around the hips/waiste and using your body weight on their legs.

Neither Hopgood or Haas had the opponent by the hips
 

Eelementary

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I always thought Johns was slightly overrated. My g.o.a.t. is Bob Fulton.

I never had the pleasure of watching Bozo play.

But Joey defended like a front-rower, was mentally, and physically, tough, was clutch as hell, had all the the tricks in his bag...

I get a little tilted when people compare Nathan Cleary to him.

To be clear, I think Cleary is a gun.

But he is yet to dominate Origin, the way Joey did.

And Joey also played at hooker for NSW, and Australia, and did pretty well.

Phenomenal player.
 

Avenger

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I never had the pleasure of watching Bozo play.

But Joey defended like a front-rower, was mentally, and physically, tough, was clutch as hell, had all the the tricks in his bag...

I get a little tilted when people compare Nathan Cleary to him.

To be clear, I think Cleary is a gun.

But he is yet to dominate Origin, the way Joey did.

And Joey also played at hooker for NSW, and Australia, and did pretty well.

Phenomenal player.
Let’s just say he did it all without the best preparation and by his own admission he also had a drug issue which if the league was fair dinkum should have precluded him from being an immortal.
 

King-Gutho94

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2002 or 2003 one those origin series Joey had under Gus was incredible.

He was a freak at his best

Then he came back from the dead basically in 2005 to ambush QLD. I was there in 2005 Sydney match best halfback game i have ever seen.

I never had the pleasure of watching Bozo play.

But Joey defended like a front-rower, was mentally, and physically, tough, was clutch as hell, had all the the tricks in his bag...

I get a little tilted when people compare Nathan Cleary to him.

To be clear, I think Cleary is a gun.

But he is yet to dominate Origin, the way Joey did.

And Joey also played at hooker for NSW, and Australia, and did pretty well.

Phenomenal player.
 

Delboy

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Just an observation, the bunker official was the dark haired female touchie/ref who when I watch, stands in line with forward passes and drop balls and seems to refuse to raise the flag. Was there a thought of penalising the current golden boy and sending a Donkey to the sin bin would take them down to 11 would see more scrutiny on her performance, will never know but entered my head immediately.
 

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