Rumours and Stuff

[Avenger]

Lol. Well when Moses has 2 x grand final rings. Played for Australia and won multiple origins then we will call them evens.

There is too much wind blown up his arse and now you’re doing it. He is the best 7 no doubt but to suggest he will be a future immortal like many have is laughable. Thurston, Lockyer, Kenny and Sterling have all done much more than he has. Plus there is a grub called Cameron Smith who is possibly the greatest of them all.

 

[84 Baby]

Lol. Well when Moses has 2 x grand final rings. Played for Australia and won multiple origins then we will call them evens.

Did he say evens, chinlover?

 

[hineyrulz]

You don’t have to be the biggest. You just have to be enough.

Words to live by.

 

[Eelementary]

There is too much wind blown up his arse and now you’re doing it. He is the best 7 no doubt but to suggest he will be a future immortal like many have is laughable. Thurston, Lockyer, Kenny and Sterling have all done much more than he has. Plus there is a grub called Cameron Smith who is possibly the greatest of them all.

Just my opinion, of course, but the GOAT is Andrew Johns, imo.

 

[hineyrulz]

Just my opinion, of course, but the GOAT is Andrew Johns, imo.

He's the best footballer i have even seen, Scum Smith second. Luke Kelly 3rd.

 

[Eelementary]

He had a leg injury tbf. I think Moses is a better attacking player. More creative.
But Nathan is clutch. He doesn't sway from the game plan at all. And his defense is amazing. Moses needs to show me he can consistently be clutch and stick to a game plan.

I think that's a fair assessment.

Moses is dangerous - quick, creative, attacking-oriented.

Cleary is a big-game player (though he's struggled in Origin).

I wouldn't mind Cleary at 7 for us, but I think Moses is pretty good.

 

[lingard]

Just my opinion, of course, but the GOAT is Andrew Johns, imo.

I always thought Johns was slightly overrated. My g.o.a.t. is Bob Fulton.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You don’t have to be the biggest. You just have to be enough.

I agree but does that mean we should be guaranteed a premiership within a given narrow timeframe? We haven’t won in 36 years but the current management structure is only a few years old. We should expect them to deliver more than their predecessors, but a club that hasn’t won in 30+ years has a lot of growing to do before it gets close to the big boys. We peaked last year and then were dismantled by the salary cap. Hopefully we peak again in the next couple of years and go one better, but since 2016 (the last year of our old management structure) only six other clubs have even made a grand final.

If we are indeed getting bigger, results on the field will improve in an iterative manner. There will be steps forward and backwards over a long term trend of improvement. It already looks like that might be the case, but even then there’s no model of growth that will give you a clear year-on-year climb up the ladder until you win the comp. It might only appear so if you look at a very narrow sample (e.g. the most successful club of the day) and narrativise what amounts to a series of partially random outcomes.

And now I’ve been sitting here so long it’s going to be difficult to wipe.

 

[Gherkin]

There is too much wind blown up his arse and now you’re doing it. He is the best 7 no doubt but to suggest he will be a future immortal like many have is laughable. Thurston, Lockyer, Kenny and Sterling have all done much more than he has. Plus there is a grub called Cameron Smith who is possibly the greatest of them all.

Cleary is only 25, of course they’ve done more than he has so far. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s surpassed a few of them by the end of his career though.

 

[strider]

Lol. Well when Moses has 2 x grand final rings. Played for Australia and won multiple origins then we will call them evens.

No he means the pay gap

 

[lucablight]

He had a leg injury tbf. I think Moses is a better attacking player. More creative.
But Nathan is clutch. He doesn't sway from the game plan at all. And his defense is amazing. Moses needs to show me he can consistently be clutch and stick to a game plan.

Clearys passing game is way better than Moses’.

 

[Sensei Cobra]

No he means the pay gap

Gender equality right ?

 

[Sensei Cobra]

He's the best footballer i have even seen, Scum Smith second. Luke Kelly 3rd.
You forgot about billy whatshisname

 

[Sensei Cobra]

Moses needs to lead the game plan and see what needs to happen based on game situation.
Tigers game as an example, at 22-6 we stopped playing footy and tried to grind it out with about 25 mins still to play. Tigers wanted it more and so the comeback was not a surprise.

Moses should know what’s needed and make it happen …. we should have kept playing and putting pressure on them instead we opened up the opportunity for them to score some points

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

There is too much wind blown up his arse and now you’re doing it. He is the best 7 no doubt but to suggest he will be a future immortal like many have is laughable. Thurston, Lockyer, Kenny and Sterling have all done much more than he has. Plus there is a grub called Cameron Smith who is possibly the greatest of them all.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

There is too much wind blown up his arse and now you’re doing it. He is the best 7 no doubt but to suggest he will be a future immortal like many have is laughable. Thurston, Lockyer, Kenny and Sterling have all done much more than he has. Plus there is a grub called Cameron Smith who is possibly the greatest of them all.

I agree on one level. But at the end of his (Cleary's) career he'll be up there with those guys. Kenny was a different beast though. Never an organiser, or anything like it but a guy born for 13 on 13 and drop his shoulder and disappear. No other way to describe it.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Lockyer for mine. Sensational player.

 

[the phantom menace]

And now I’ve been sitting here so long it’s going to be difficult to wipe.

TL: DR... but I find that it's easier to wipe the longer I've been sitting?

 

[yy_cheng]

Would like Moses nail a few more clutch FGs and conversions first.

General play is pretty similar. Though would like Moses to have the spiral bomb in his kitbag once a while that really pressures the catches like Cleary does.

Moses does have a spiral. He even said the way he kicks it is hitting the outside of the ball.

However, im guessing ba just wants kick to the corners and chase. No spiral shit

It is so repetitive and our players all say we need to kick to the corner and chase

I wish we played like south's do

 

[Noise]

Moses does have a spiral. He even said the way he kicks it is hitting the outside of the ball.

However, im guessing ba just wants kick to the corners and chase. No spiral shit

It is so repetitive and our players all say we need to kick to the corner and chase

I wish we played like south's do

Moses does have a spiral but I don’t think he is confident he can kick it accurately consistently. I’ve watched him do them in the warm up and occasionally in the games. The only time he will attempt one in a game is if he is in the middle of the field (left postish) about 40-50 out. Because he kicks it off the outside of his boot there is a huge margin for error so wants to give himself room to not kick it out on the full.