Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

It's really exciting to see how Penisini will develop - he's already in the top 5 centres on the game, imo.

And if an average 25 year old like Waqa Blake was on $500k imagine how much Penisini would cost with all his potential!!! The merkin is still eligible for Jersey Flegg. We are probably paying him a million a year ffs!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

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Found this in the paper today.

Wasnt aware of this but apprantley the courier mail Peter Badel was a diehard Parramatta supporter growing up.

And created his own eels website back in 1995.

Clearly has dropped off the wagon these days and is a broncos man isn't he now.

What's that stain on your tablecloth? Looks yum.

 

[Bandwagon]

Yes yes agreed. We all agree, he is being paid way to much at around $550K a season and thank goodness he is off our books at the end of 2023. Now what do we do with his money, any suggestions? All good ideas are most welcome.

I'd be spending it on some better players.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No we need more depth ffs! Let's get Semi Valemei and Tautau Moga.

 

[the phantom menace]

Found this in the paper today.

Wasnt aware of this but apprantley the courier mail Peter Badel was a diehard Parramatta supporter growing up.

And created his own eels website back in 1995.

Clearly has dropped off the wagon these days and is a broncos man isn't he now.

1995 websites were quality.

Wonder if it could have been this one or this one...?

 

[Rocket man]

Penrith were entitled to spread their payout figure over as many years as they wanted. It didn't mean we suddenly had to pay more when their payments stopped. Two separate contracts. From the player's point of view, he only cares about getting his money across the length of the original deal.

So if he was on $450k at Penrith, over four years, that's $1.8M until 2023, plus whatever upgrade they frontloaded into his existing 2019 portion.

If he was then required to leave (in mid-2019) to free up space for Crichton, To'o and the rest, he might've found he could get $350k from Parra for the remaining four years (2020-2023). He would then only be out of pocket by $400k. Penrith could then have agreed to pay it, and they were free to spread it over as many years as they liked (e.g. 2020: $125k, 2021: $125k, 2022: $150k). Meanwhile our deal with the player was whatever was agreed between us. There's no reason we'd have to suddenly pay more because Penrith's payout had ended.

Penrith wanted to get rid of Blake. Not the other way around.
The ball was in his court he leaves on his terms or he doesn't leave.

 

[the phantom menace]

Found this in the paper today.

Wasnt aware of this but apprantley the courier mail Peter Badel was a diehard Parramatta supporter growing up.

And created his own eels website back in 1995.

Clearly has dropped off the wagon these days and is a broncos man isn't he now.

1995 websites were quality.

Wonder if it could have been this one or this one...?

It was neither... but I found the real deal (a 1998 capture) :

PETER BADEL'S PARRAMATTA EELS PAGE!

web.archive.org

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Penrith wanted to get rid of Blake. Not the other way around.
The ball was in his court he leaves on his terms or he doesn't leave.

Agreed. He had a contract, so he didn't have to go anywhere.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It was neither... but I found the real deal (a 1998 capture) :

PETER BADEL'S PARRAMATTA EELS PAGE!

web.archive.org

That's some quality 'open source social media research'. You've obviously done this before!

 

[the phantom menace]

1995-era websites pre-date social media, but yeah... search engine techniques are pretty easy. Do watch Catfish? Pretty cool the tricks they can use to help people out.

 

[Eelementary]

Saw this on Facebook, and I was amazed to see the real Chris Jericho actually respond!

 

[Jake the snake]

It was neither... but I found the real deal (a 1998 capture) :

PETER BADEL'S PARRAMATTA EELS PAGE!

web.archive.org

He was of of the first, good site. Even remember Brian Smith doing a live chat there once.

 

[hindy111]

I agreed he’s on $800k

Obviously the Apologists are defending the Moimesea signing. I will tell you one thing he is on more then min. Considering ghe isnt even in the best starting 17 in NSW CUP its a cokup.
Of course it may only be 20 or 30k extra. What do you reckon Ray Stone cost but? We never ever gave him more then 1 yr. It shows we have issues identifying talent to bring this guy down from Newcastle Park footballer. Ron Massey cup level.

 

[hindy111]

DWZ can play fullback and make 200m on the wing. Blake can’t. And also he turned 25 the year we signed him. Four years older than Penisini is this year. That’s what potential looks like, not a solid NRL player in his mid-20s.

Whatever makes you feel better mate. I know how much he was on from my little birds. You can chose to beleive what you want. I trust my birds. You don't have to but.

 

[hindy111]

I heard that's for his first year - his second year is for $840,000, and the co-captaincy.

As I said it isn't about what he costs.(which is more then min) It's about the fact BA thought he was an NRL player and had him in our side rnd 1 and signed him for 2yrs. It shows we have poor scouts. And what do you reckon Stone would of cost to keep. The same

 

[hindy111]

It's really exciting to see how Penisini will develop - he's already in the top 5 centres on the game, imo.

He is very good. But I wouldn't have him in my top 5. Id have him in my top 10 tho.

Just a few to mention and unsure where I rank them. Id have Penisini above some of these. But that is 14 or 15 good ones including Penisini.

Staggs, Herbie,Sulii, Manu, Suali,Crighton,Tago, Olam,Ramien, Talaki, Valentine Holmes, Campbell Graheme, Lomax, Gagai.

 

[hindy111]

Penrith were entitled to spread their payout figure over as many years as they wanted. It didn't mean we suddenly had to pay more when their payments stopped. Two separate contracts. From the player's point of view, he only cares about getting his money across the length of the original deal.

So if he was on $450k at Penrith, over four years, that's $1.8M until 2023, plus whatever upgrade they frontloaded into his existing 2019 portion.

If he was then required to leave (in mid-2019) to free up space for Crichton, To'o and the rest, he might've found he could get $350k from Parra for the remaining four years (2020-2023). He would then only be out of pocket by $400k. Penrith could then have agreed to pay it, and they were free to spread it over as many years as they liked (e.g. 2020: $125k, 2021: $125k, 2022: $150k). Meanwhile our deal with the player was whatever was agreed between us. There's no reason we'd have to suddenly pay more because Penrith's payout had ended.

550k

 

[hindy111]

And if an average 25 year old like Waqa Blake was on $500k imagine how much Penisini would cost with all his potential!!! The merkin is still eligible for Jersey Flegg. We are probably paying him a million a year ffs!

@Blade23 sorry mate to have to bring you into this. This argument on Waqa's contract has gone of for so long. We know you have very good information on Penrith players.
I also know Waqa was playing quite well when Penrith chopped him and would of been some demand from other clubs.

So my question is any idea what Parra paid/paying him? Or even close to the mark. My little birds have told me he was on a bit over 500k mark at Penrith . He comes to Parra and Penrith chipped in 150k for first 3yrs but we are paying full freight for the final 2 yrs. So right now he is costing PARRA over 500k.

Would you say my little birds are right or way off?


Thanks

 

[84 Baby]

Obviously the Apologists are defending the Moimesea signing. I will tell you one thing he is on more then min. Considering ghe isnt even in the best starting 17 in NSW CUP its a cokup.
Of course it may only be 20 or 30k extra. What do you reckon Ray Stone cost but? We never ever gave him more then 1 yr. It shows we have issues identifying talent to bring this guy down from Newcastle Park footballer. Ron Massey cup level.

So the way we treated Ray Stone was good? Plus Stone would’ve cost more. I reckon given Momoisea on 2 year contract, he’s probably on like $250k over the 2 years. He has some obvious physical attributes but either mental or attitude is lacking

 

[hindy111]

So the way we treated Ray Stone was good? Plus Stone would’ve cost more. I reckon given Momoisea on 2 year contract, he’s probably on like $250k over the 2 years. He has some obvious physical attributes but either mental or attitude is lacking

Min i think is 130k. My guess is he is on 150k