Rumours and Stuff

[Gronk]

2024 we have a great forward pack. If you look at it nobody is in decline yet. Jnr still can play rep level. There is no chance he plays as poor as he did this season. Lane is like a new signing as well.
I also would expect Hopgood, Morreti,Grieg to all improve as it was all their first year in the NRL. JOE O also gets a full off-season. Amd remember RCG missed 10/24 games. Then we can throw Talagi,Betham and I am going to put Mataele in the mix. He needs a big off season but it will be make or break for him. The pack will be 20 - 30% stronger
Halves well I expect Dylan to get into his peak now. Moses is in his peak and Gutherson we will get similar from. Lussick gets a full off season and Hands also should improve. The spine will get slightly stronger I feel. Maybe 10%.

Last is the backs. Penisini and Russel are going to get better. It's impossible to say how much. Sivo if plays hard is still quality. He is excellent under the high ball. Just needs to increase his work rate. The last guy is Simmonson. That's the position we need to upgrade. He makes a great back up.
Ethyn Martin from Flegg is my smoke to push into the side. He looks a good one to me. Blayze Talagi I reckons a few years away still physically.
So for me there is 3 positions we could improve. And only 2 if Sivo pulls his finger out. That's a centre spot and hooker. I just don't feel there is anyone available at 9 to help us right now. A strike centre is where id be throwing my cash if we have any.

Agree merkin. Just don’t be claiming Ethyn Martin as your discovery if he manages to snag an NRL gig in 2024. All the junior centric podcasts and TCT have been talking about him up since he appeared from QLD early 2023. I’m watching you.

 

[hineyrulz]

Not sure it's a potshot it's just reality.

There are parra fans everywhere. And why wouldn't they want to strive to have more fans then us.

Isn't that the point.

Will Penrith replicate and rival the big fanbase we have in 40 years time. Who knows they still have a bit to go. As we saw in the prelim against Melbourne they gave away freebies to boost the crowd.

They were outnumbered by Donkeys fans quite easily at the GF, they have a ways to goes to match us support wise. In every other metric they absolutely embarrass us.

 

[hineyrulz]

Top tier, middle tier, resources...blah blah....


We lack hunger....that's the bottom line.

We've lacked hunger since our last grand final win.

Hunger on the field, and hunger from management

Happy to just be competitive, these f**kers running the club are happy to just do the bare minimum as long as us dopey fans keep turning up and buying memberships. We aren’t breaking our drought any time soon last season was a fluke and it’s probably set the club back 5 years with Sir Baldalot.

 

[hineyrulz]

Premierships are a poor metric because it isn’t granular. You’re better off looking at wins. That should give an expected premierships number, with the difference coming down to luck (good or bad).

As for Penrith I’d say they won heaps more games than we did between 1987 and 2020, which is why they also won premierships in ‘91 and ‘03.

 

[hineyrulz]

Agree merkin. Just don’t be claiming Ethyn Martin as your discovery if he manages to snag an NRL gig in 2024. All the junior centric podcasts and TCT have been talking about him up since he appeared from QLD early 2023. I’m watching you.

Every breath you take and every move you make, every bond you break every step you take I’ll be watching you.

 

[Soto]

Premierships are a poor metric because it isn’t granular. You’re better off looking at wins. That should give an expected premierships number, with the difference coming down to luck (good or bad).

As for Penrith I’d say they won heaps more games than we did between 1987 and 2020, which is why they also won premierships in ‘91 and ‘03.

No-one gives a f&# about how many wins and losses. No-one cares who comes second third fourth etc.
What ppl remember is who won the comp and who won the spoon.
In the nrl no-one cares who the minor premiers are.
GF winners and spoons. Plain and simple

 

[hindy111]

Agree merkin. Just don’t be claiming Ethyn Martin as your discovery if he manages to snag an NRL gig in 2024. All the junior centric podcasts and TCT have been talking about him up since he appeared from QLD early 2023. I’m watching you.

Why not? I only saw him play once and that was enough for me to call him a future prospect. I also gave my opinion on Komolafe, Talagi and the the pint sized MA. And all this after 60mins.

 

[Gronk]

Why not? I only saw him play once and that was enough for me to call him a future prospect. I also gave my opinion on Komolafe, Talagi and the the pint sized MA. And all this after 60mins.

Sure thing Gus.

 

[strider]

Seems like Mr 1% is jealous of Mr 99%

 

[hindy111]

Seems like Mr 1% is jealous of Mr 99%

Don't be a bully

 

[Gronk]

Seems like Mr 1% is jealous of Mr 99%

If you implying that my prediction ranking only deserves 1%, then I am lodging a protest with the judging panel.

For example, for the past 30 years when Mrs Gronk asks me if we are going to win the comp this year I always answer "probably not".

 

[JokerEel]

If you implying that my prediction ranking only deserves 1%, then I am lodging a protest with the judging panel.

For example, for the past 30 years when Mrs Gronk asks me if we are going to win the comp this year I always answer "probably not".

So its your fault we dont win the bloody competition!

 

[Soren Lorenson]

No-one gives a f&# about how many wins and losses. No-one cares who comes second third fourth etc.
What ppl remember is who won the comp and who won the spoon.
In the nrl no-one cares who the minor premiers are.
GF winners and spoons. Plain and simple

“Always remember, if you ain't first, you're last." - Ricky Bobby, 2006

 

[TheRam]

You’re assuming a grand final loss repeats the same point of their high/low cycle as ours. A better resourced club, at its peak, might be capable of beating anybody in a grand final, even belting a weaker team. Let's say they peak at a 10 out of 10. Think Penrith in 2022, the Chooks in 2018, and the Storm in 2017. Two years before their peak they might be at 8/10, capable of making a grand final (Penrith 2020) or losing a prelim (Storm 2015), or with some very bad luck they might be capable of a disastrous season and only win six games (Roosters 2016). A more moderately resourced club like Parramatta might only be capable of peaking at 8 out of 10. Even a year either side of that peak they could be missing the finals altogether if they suffer a few injuries or suspensions.

You are dreaming if you think we can't be as well resourced as any other club in the NRL. For most of our existence since the 70's we have been one of the most well profitable club in Australia other then that short period around the teens of this century. But now again since our evolution under Max Donnelly we are back to being a highly profitable entity again.

That means if we are lacking in resources(cash and or personnel) it's not a matter of we don't have any, but more a matter of we don't want to fund areas that the more successful clubs do. So then begs the question...why?

The primary reason we have a club is the football side of things and the NRL Football Club is the main jewel within the entire group of enterprises. The people who run the joint need to prioritize everything to focus on overall profitability first of course and winning Premierships with the funds that come from that. That's it.

Everything we do as a leagues club entity should be to maximise our bottom line so we then have the funds to spend on ALL the resources that give our NRL Football Club the best possible chance to win Premierships. All investments the Leagues club enterprises make should be for the ultimate benefit of the NRL Football Club. If the people that hold the purse strings are not doing this then they are at fault as to why we don't have the resources that other more successful clubs like the Panthers and Storm do, not because we are a middle of the road club and just don't have the resources the bigger and more successful clubs do.

 

[TheRam]

Agree merkin. Just don’t be claiming Ethyn Martin as your discovery if he manages to snag an NRL gig in 2024. All the junior centric podcasts and TCT have been talking about him up since he appeared from QLD early 2023. I’m watching you.

I think as usual your full of sh*t. Hindy told me about him in 2022.

And guess what? No one is ever watching you!

 

[TheRam]

If you implying that my prediction ranking only deserves 1%, then I am lodging a protest with the judging panel.

For example, for the past 30 years when Mrs Gronk asks me if we are going to win the comp this year I always answer "probably not".

Probably is not a hard core prediction merkin.

It's the sort of statement a vagina man makes and when you make it you sound like you have two of them.

 

[JokerEel]

Premierships are a poor metric because it isn’t granular. You’re better off looking at wins. That should give an expected premierships number, with the difference coming down to luck (good or bad).

As for Penrith I’d say they won heaps more games than we did between 1987 and 2020, which is why they also won premierships in ‘91 and ‘03.

Not heaps Penrith had 391 wins we had 372 from 1987 to the end of season 2020.

 

[Gronk]

Probably is not a hard core prediction merkin.

It's the sort of statement a vagina man makes and when you make it you sound like you have two of them.

Are you the guy who goes around calling people trolls ?

 

[IFR33K]

If you implying that my prediction ranking only deserves 1%, then I am lodging a protest with the judging panel.

For example, for the past 30 years when Mrs Gronk asks me if we are going to win the comp this year I always answer "probably not".

that’s a weapons grade quality response

 

[strider]

If you freeze the play there, yes i was saying you get almost everything wrong