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TheRam

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How rugby league could stop China’s march in the Pacific​

ByAdrian Proszenko

July 29, 2023 — 3.02pm

When rugby league was at war with itself, John Ribot sold the vision of the game’s stars becoming household names in China.
While that never transpired – Latrell Mitchell and Andrew Ettingshausen could walk through downtown Beijing without getting noticed – China is playing a key role in where the NRL may expand a quarter of a century later.
The Australian and Papua New Guinean governments have a shared ambition for the Pacific nation to be granted the NRL’s 18th licence. It is an opportunity to bring the sports-loving people of two countries, separated by just four kilometres of Torres Strait, even closer together.
There are, however, far greater motives behind the Australian government’s support, underscored by a $5.5 million pledge last week to grow the game in PNG.

As the gateway to Asia, PNG holds increasing geopolitical importance for Australia as China extends its influence in the Pacific. While Australia can’t compete in a chequebook war with Xi Jinping, it can offer the Pacific nation something China can’t – “rugba leegue”.
PNG is the only country that claims rugby league as its national sport, where NRL stars are feted as demigods.

Granting PNG its own NRL franchise, more than any other gesture or boatloads of yuan, would win the hearts and minds of a nation. Which is why the Australian government is right behind the idea.

“I’d have to seriously consider changing teams if this comes off,” says Pat Conroy, a passionate Sydney Roosters fan, who also happens to be Australia’s Minister for Defence and Minister for the Pacific.

Conroy, having visited PNG just a week ago, is one of the driving forces in an Albanese government prepared to underwrite many of the franchise costs. The expense would be in the tens of millions – the asset-rich Dolphins in Brisbane’s north required a $50 million bank guarantee before being awarded the 17th NRL licence – but it is soft diplomacy that comes significantly cheaper than the $300 billion outlay for nuclear submarines.

What’s more, it would bind two nations.

“It would be a great thing for PNG because sport unites people,” Conroy says. “I’ve seen Prime Minister [James] Marape talk about his vision for an NRL PNG team and how it could bring his nation together.
“PNG is probably the most diverse nation in the world, with over 800 languages spoken. You need to think about how you bring a country together, and sport, particularly their passion for NRL, can do that.

“Prime Minister [Marape] often talks about comparing it to what Nelson Mandela did in South Africa in using the Rugby World Cup in 1995 to bring his nation together. Obviously, they are not dealing with post-apartheid, they are dealing with a country that is very diverse. He’s also very keen for the lessons around sport, teamwork, discipline and healthy lifestyles, to flow through to their communities.”
The best-case scenario is this: the NRL gives PNG the nod in 2025, the year it celebrates 50 years of independence, with a view to joining the competition in 2027. The majority of home games would be played in Port Moresby, with a second headquarters in Cairns to help with logistical and travel issues.

The side would have its own national identity, potentially with some Pasifika representation from the likes of neighbours Fiji, Samoa and Tonga. Which means the North Sydney Bears, seeking to partner with anyone resembling a prospective bidder, will remain in hibernation.
The NRL would approve the licence, secure in the knowledge that the Australia and PNG governments would foot most of the bill. Any shortfall will be picked up by the many cashed-up corporate behemoths in PNG – such as ExxonMobil, Santos and Newcrest – which would clamour to be associated with the “greatest game of all”.

“There’s a growing interest with a lot of the corporate entities for its own team,” says Wapu Sonk, chairman of the PNG NRL bid board. “From a PNG perspective, we would like to think that the stars line up for us to be the 18th team when the time comes.”
For proof, consider Justin Olam. Born and raised in the mountainous Chimbu Province, Olam is the only PNG product to rise into the NRL ranks after playing all of his junior football locally. The Storm star, who enjoys rock star status when he returns home, makes more money from sponsorships and endorsements than any other player in the NRL.

Yet, the biggest challenge for the prospective franchise is developing enough Justin Olams to fill a roster.
“[Building development pathways] is crucial to success and even without a franchise we need to focus here, so we can build our players’ presence in the game,” Olam says. “Clubs and agents are starting to scout in PNG for talent, and we have more and more players coming through systems. We know we have athletes, so it’s not about talent ID, it’s about talent development.”

To that end, Joe Grima has been appointed as the head of elite player development in PNG. Grima – a former Sharks, Dragons and Eels assistant coach whose last NRL role was as Parramatta’s elite pathways coaching director – is upskilling the best young juniors in Port Moresby. The best players from 65 schools in the catchment area have been identified and placed in under-14s and under-16s academies, where they will get the same tuition as juniors in NRL systems.
The program, based on the pathways model of the Eels nursery, will eventually be rolled out nationally.


“From a testing background – in terms of physicality, fitness and speed – they are on par athletically [with elite Australian players],” Grima said. “Some even exceed some of the players I’ve tested previously. We can now compare the data against historic data that we have of 14- and 15-year-olds in Australia.
“Players like [Eels juniors] Jake Arthur, Samuel Loizou, Will Penisini or Dylan Brown – we have that historic data that we can measure our players here at the same age against. In just a short period of time we’ve seen an advancement of those skills and a willingness of those young men to jump on and follow instructions. It’s been really pleasing.”

The Manly Sea Eagles recently signed one of PNG’s most promising juniors. More are expected to flow into NRL systems in coming years.
“Lots of kids are playing rugby league; they’ve never had the opportunity to get the coaching we can deliver,” PNG NRL bid chief executive Andrew Hill says. “For the first time in the history of PNG, they have an NRL program being delivered under Joey Grima. Now some of those players who have been playing the game just because they love it will be able to go to the next level.”

That group may soon have an NRL franchise to aim for. However, they may not have to wait long to witness quality football on their shores due to a push for Test matches to be played in Port Moresby at the end of the season.
NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo and ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys are attending an International Rugby League board meeting in Singapore. Top of the agenda is a window for Test matches to be played after the NRL grand final. The proposal is for Australia, New Zealand and Samoa to square off, while PNG will take on the Cook Islands and Fiji in their own series. The Australian and PNG governments will need to kick in money in order for the PNG matches to go ahead.

Asked about the perception that rugby league is playing a role in Australia’s foreign policy, Conroy says: “I’ve been frank with people that Australia wants to be the closest possible partner to Pacific nations.
“We’re a Pacific nation, we’re proud to be a member of the Pacific family. PNG is our closest neighbour and our dearest friend ... nothing unites them like rugby league.”



They're doomed.
 

TheRam

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I wouldn't call 3 years giving it a go.

They were victims of the Super league war and I assume back then the ARL expanding just too quickly. They brought 4 new teams in one season. Too many too soon.

If Perth remained and weren't replaced by Melbourne in 1998 I reckon they would still be here in the comp now.

Hey @Poupou Escobar if Perth were granted a NRL licence would you jump ship and follow them?
 

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I agree with much of this but I’m not prepared to write off Bailey in the centres just yet. He seems very fit and was making quality hitups at the back end of last year for around ten metres a carry. His catch and pass and one on one with the ball is okay as well.

If he can hold his own in defence with an off season at centre behind him, I am okay with him in that spot.

My biggest concern is the right wing spot. Hopefully Russell does put on some size as you mentioned and naturally progresses a little more.

Ethyn Martin with a big off-season will be snapping at his heels.
 

King-Gutho94

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I have a friend who is involved with the Perth bid.
He is confident it will be successful. He was involved with the Western Reds...Be interesting.
I met these 2 brothers who are from Perth on a tour while travelling overseas earlier this year. They were around my age late 20s.

Got on well as they are mad RL fans and hate AFL.

As there father was from Sydney so he got them into Rugby League and they love it.

They said they have flown over to Brisbane for Magic Round with a few mates the past couple of years.

So there is an appetite over there.

The only downside was one was a Manly fan and the other brother was a Roosters fan.
 

hineyrulz

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Hey @Poupou Escobar if Perth were granted a NRL licence would you jump ship and follow them?
New York Lol GIF by Lifetime
 

TheRam

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Especially if they’d gotten the leg ups those purple pricks have had the last 25 years. Perth should be next cab off the rank it’s a no brainer. Then NZ2.

In a non political world yeah you could argue strongly for both Perth or Christchurch(New indoor stadium opening in 2026) being the next team in.

BUT...with the government money from both nations and the mega mining corporations that will follow, it literally changes everything. That sort of focused support and resources by so many powerful stakeholders will easily fast track any team to at least be a midline level team, which would then justify their existence.

I was initially against it, but now reading and knowing more of what they are willing to do and planning and how not only will it be the Governments behind it but there will be significant corporate support then they will not want for money or resources. With a population of 10m people in a nation that is 100% league loving then once they start to get all the pathways up and running which they have never had before and Joe Grima is just now setting up, then within 5 years in my opinion we will start to see players coming through.

If that happen and I can't see it not, remember they will probably be funded better then any other club in the NRL and with 10m people as their back yard nursery and supported by the whole 10m. Well I know we are talking about a 3rd nation, but still the little girls and boys no matter how poor will be aspiring to be the next Olam for example, there will be many many thousands of kiddies to pick from. Resources and pathways is the key for development and they will have both in abundance.

As for recruitment outside of PNG? Yeah it may be a little harder to get the Aussie or NZ player and his family to base themselves in PNG, but there will be some that will. But ultimately I believe that they will be fairly self sufficient reasonably quickly and only need to add outside less and less within a decade. If they become very successful and I believe they will be as long as the resources are there, then quality players from outside PNG will be willing to join. I think what we will see is that if they base a team in Port Moresby that some players from Islander decent will find PNG a attractive option that will feel more like the home they are from and not as intimidating. Also younger Aussie and NZ players may think of it like an adventure experience to do for a few years too.

The stadium would be for me a priority. The ARLC should lobby the Government hard right now and tell them to build a Titans style stadium. Now is the time to put all our demands in. Also get the Albo Government to sign and ironclad contract to fund the PNG team for the next 50 years if they can, so that the next Government doesn't reverse course and pull the pin or substantially reduce the funding. Remember it's the Governments of both nations that want and need us, so we need to be the AFL in the way we do business and go hard and extract as much out of them as humanly possible.

Ultimately if we get everything we want then I can't see how a Port Moresby based team playing out of a good modern stadium that is extremely well funded and will have the biggest nursery of any RL club in the world that is backed by 2 governments and many billion dollar corporations could be anything but a success story and a massive jewel in the crown of RL.

The AFL will and would be sitting chips already and green with envy that they could never ever achieve such a thing.

Drone flyover view of Port Moresby. I bet many of us have lived in a lot of worse places.

 

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Haven’t the PNG team in the qld cup sucked in recent years? The last 5 seasons:
2019: 13th (2nd last)
2020: season cancelled
2021: 10th
2022: 12th
2023: 10th.
No decent Aussie / Kiwi player and his family is going to want to spend time in Port Moresby. The team might get funded well but they will be shitter than the current Wests Tigers.

Bring in Perth.
 

TheRam

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Haven’t the PNG team in the qld cup sucked in recent years? The last 5 seasons:
2019: 13th (2nd last)
2020: season cancelled
2021: 10th
2022: 12th
2023: 10th.
No decent Aussie / Kiwi player and his family is going to want to spend time in Port Moresby. The team might get funded well but they will be shitter than the current Wests Tigers.

Bring in Perth.

PNG has never had the funding, resources, coaching and pathways that are being setup right now and much, much more to come if and when the huge injection of funding and resources come online. I don't think many here get it. The millions that will be available annually, especially in a country that is so cheap by comparison, will be a game changer and revolutionise the whole sport in that RL loving country.

It will be a way out of abject poverty for every little boy and girl and their families for anyone of them that shows any sort of potential to have a go and see if they can do it. That mean as long as the structure and funding is there from little kiddies footy, all the way up to NRL level, there will be an abundance of potential talent that no other nursery anywhere in the RL world will be able to match in numbers and hopefully if done right in quality coming through...eventually.

Structure determines outcome.
 

Soto

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Perth Is the ideal place.
They have a league comp there already.
Lots of expats
Good due to time zone difference being predominantly 2 hours behind and for an early part of the season 3 hours.
Pou won't have to travel far to embrace, partner with, support and cradle them. The #1 ticket holder
Would provide an opportunity for another 1st grade gig for BA when he finally gets punted from here.
Could see BA, JA and MA all in 1st grade at the same club.
Overwhelming win for all parties involved. Pou, Perf, Parra and the Arfurs
 

TheRam

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The Dolphins struggled getting stars to sign with them. PNG will find it 100 times harder.

Irrelevant for the first few years.

When you are being given money in the tens of million and eventually 100's of million to propagate our sport in just one small country that loves our game more than any other, only a fool would turn that down.
 

TheRam

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No, but they would probably become my second team.

Are you sure Pou? Maybe you should seriously reconsider? Think about it you could enjoy live games on a by weekly basis and on a personal level a new found joy and extrication of the perpetual plagued misery and suffering that has become the Parramatta Eels.

No seriously go on think about it. Do it. Think about all the new dumb dumb Pirate fans that you could edumicate and show your superior and exceptional intellect and knowledge to.

Go on do it. Pleeeeease!!!!
 

Tiger5150

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Depends how much above the grant they need to operate. Resource companies might be ‘encouraged’ by PNG to sponsor the NRL team as just the cost of doing business. Running costs for an NRL team are a drop in the ocean for the likes of St Barbara, or even the Australian government if they were forced to bankroll it. It is an area of massive political benefit compared to the cost. The soft power of the NRL is perhaps the only thing that separates Australia from anyone else in PNG. Even China’s ability to hand over cash with no attached human rights demands isn’t unique to the PRC.

I agree with Pou 100% with this which makes me uneasy. Im comforted with the knowledge that he will be arguing the opposite case within 24hrs.
 

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