Rumours and Stuff

[TheCrowe]

I don't think so. There's a maximum amount you can pay merkins outside the top 30 and a minimum you have to pay the ones in the top 30. So once a bloke is in the top 30 he is stuck there unless he agrees to leave.

This is why I asked. Multiple articles read like Biondi-Oda was cut from the top 30 last year by the signing of Hoffman. Of course the lack of clarity and transparency keeps everyone guessing.

The Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs have cut utility Bailey Biondi-Odo from their top 30 squad in favour of former Wests Tigers rookie Reece Hoffman.
Despite re-signing until the end of this season back in 2021, Biondi-Odo has seemingly been cut from Canterbury's top 30 as he continues to rehabilitate a torn ACL suffered in a hip drop tackle last September.

 

[TheRam]

Out of line there mate. Colonel is easily the most measured member there is. Makes @emjaycee sound like me.

I find him to mature and a little stuffy for my liking. But he does on occasion have some decent insights on things.

It's the pompousness that he swings around that puts me off, but then again I have been known to exude my own type of lets say ego too on occasion.

Only Hindy can be said to be near perfect. The rest of us are just making up the numbers.

 

[emjaycee]

I have read somewhere that the club is waiting for the right player and they have the money for that right player should it occur. I also believe that there is quite a lot going on behind the scenes at a number of clubs at the moment that will see some players become available and that they are considered the right ones by the club.

My mail is that money isn't out problem... it's a spot in the top 30.

 

[Incorrect]

People just need to learn some patience.

We're going on 38 years of premiership drought. 10 years going on 11 with same coach who has delivered Zero. I'd say plenty of people's patience has worn thin.

 

[TheRam]

Out of line there mate. Colonel is easily the most measured member there is. Makes @emjaycee sound like me.

Oh btw Avenger, I expect your Bitcoin to sky rocket from next year and I mean sky rocket! So hold on to it there mate and you should be a very, very wealthy man if the authorities don't illegalize it and ban it that is, which might be one of the ways that they try to stop it while they bring in their CBDC's They don't and won't a quality and successful competing currency that people will want to find safe harbour in.

Don't ask me how they would do this other then they have all the power and they pass the laws, but trust me if what I think is coming comes then they will have all the power to do just that. But lets all hope it doesn't come to that for all our sakes.

It's a New World Order.

Oh Great result in Argentina this past weekend. Maybe some people are waking up...but it is all to late in my opinion. To little to late.

 

[hindy111]

My mail is that money isn't out problem... it's a spot in the top 30.

If so why did we take up club option on Ogden and promote Cini?
Makes the Moimesea contract even more embarrassing.

 

[emjaycee]

MJC, there's no communication from the club about direction or strategy so all that Ram and Hindy can do is voice it out. It is a forum for fans to voice out.

As ppl have posted, it is obvious. But there have been many things that have happened like NRown not playing any matches and then playing the GF. We don't know what happenned so we voice it out.

So if people are getting SA'ed, do you advise them to keep quiet because someone else might know about it and just hope that the cops get the culprit. Or should they voice out by whatever means until someone who can do something about it hears it.

You might be priviledged to inside knowledge but if you can't share it, then to the rest of us, nothing has happened. Until a decent signing occurs, then the fans will voice out. I don't see what the problem is.

I dont have an issue with The Ram or Hindy talking up the players they like... it's a good use of the forum. My question was more to do with the assertion that the club doesnt see the same thing, which IMHO is unfounded given that we have a professional recruitment team that includes scouts in every major RL playing region, etc.
Just because they don't announce every player they approach doesnt mean they didn't approach or at least consider.

 

[emjaycee]

100%.
The more I read the more Im convinced our top 30 is full.
We are way heavy on forwards.
For Joe O's money we could have bought a pretty decent centre or winger.
From now its 2nd tier and train and trial only.
Thats why we are considering a last chance saloon player like Scott

We could have bought a decent winger or centre for the money we are giving Ogden and Tualagi too.

 

[Incorrect]

If so why did we take up club option on Ogden and promote Cini?
Makes the Moimesea contract even more embarrassing.

Excellent points...

But anyway.... Just wait, be patient and keep waiting.... The R&R team are putting the final touches on some turds they're ready to polish.... Be patient fool!

 

[Gazzamatta]

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My mail is that money isn't out problem... it's a spot in the top 30.

The top 30 and associated rules are beyond my comprehension mate. I thought it was the 30 players you pay the most so if a new player is paid more than the guy at position 30 its a matter of one in and one out.
I guess this could then complicate the second tier cap.
If thats not the case then is it simply an admission that we got it wrong and promoted and are paying too much to players we now dont rate?
Little wonder Seward got confused.

 

[emjaycee]

Sounds like a silly question to me.

It's a results based business, so sorry to have to point out the bleeding obvious to you but you seem to think that they have approached quality juniors or under valued players in the last two seasons but every single one of them said no(bar Hopgood). Even if that were true, which I doubt very much, but if it were true then they need to step aside and let us get people in the job that can actually do the job.

I wasn't talking about your talent scouting which I believe is actually really good - just the fact that you think the club doesnt actually see the same things.

In fact, I could probably name at least 3 current first grade players at other clubs that we approached when they were 17 or 18 years old and it probably isnt common knowledge we approached them. The problem is they each stayed at their junior club instead of moving interstate.

#developmentclubsrock
#clacketyclackersrocktoo

 

[hindy111]

Excellent points...

But anyway.... Just wait, be patient and keep waiting.... The R&R team are putting the final touches on some turds they're ready to polish.... Be patient fool!

As I've said before. I think 2024 will be a good year. I also think 3 or 4 guys from that SG ball side will be NRL players and Matalele has potential.
The side I am putting a few pennies on winning the title however at $31 is Manly.
If TURBO remains fit which is a huge if they have a great spine. Brooks will be great with DCE. I'd play Schuster at 2nd row along with big Oka and that is explosive. Throw in Jake the and Lodge,Paseka and Alioi. The packs ok.
The backline is young and explosive and full of depth. Koula and Saab will light it up. Some serious speed and both now have some experience.
I guess heaps depends in Tommy turbo

 

[King-Gutho94]

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The top 30 and associated rules are beyond my comprehension mate. I thought it was the 30 players you pay the most so if a new player is paid more than the guy at position 30 its a matter of one in and one out.
I guess this could then complicate the second tier cap.
If thats not the case then is it simply an admission that we got it wrong and promoted and are paying too much to players we now dont rate?
Little wonder Seward got confused.

When Gronky gets back from holidays he can explain it to you Gazza.

He did a thread up on it

 

[emjaycee]

We just took up our club option on Ogden.

A mistake in my opinion.

 

[TheCrowe]

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The top 30 and associated rules are beyond my comprehension mate. I thought it was the 30 players you pay the most so if a new player is paid more than the guy at position 30 its a matter of one in and one out.
I guess this could then complicate the second tier cap.
If thats not the case then is it simply an admission that we got it wrong and promoted and are paying too much to players we now dont rate?
Little wonder Seward got confused.

Only Gus and Uncle Nick truly understands how it works.

 

[emjaycee]

I can't think of to many big name players that have switched clubs this year.
Herbie,Fleggler, Spencer,Crighton,Brooks,Dom Young.
Who else? A lot of middle of the road players may of moved on but these days a lot of your higher profile guys are signed up long term already.

I think apart from Brooks, most of those had signed new deals before 2023 season kick-off.

 

[emjaycee]

If thats not the case then is it simply an admission that we got it wrong and promoted and are paying too much to players we now dont rate?

Yep. I believe so.

 

[yy_cheng]

A mistake in my opinion.

So what do we trust? Do we trust the Recruitment comittee is doing their jobs properly?

To us plebs, we are screaming for a classy back and then the club goes and takes club option on Ogden and have him and Cini in the Top 30.

 

[emjaycee]

So what do we trust? Do we trust the Recruitment comittee is doing their jobs properly?

To us plebs, we are screaming for a classy back and then the club goes and takes club option on Ogden and have him and Cini in the Top 30.

I guess when you are trying to judge the potential quality of a football player, there are simply more things that can impact the desired outcome than you would like.

Sometimes you just get it wrong.
The secret to success though is how you mitigate against the ones you get wrong and I think this is where we need to improve as a club.

 

[emjaycee]

Cini was signed as a 2 year development contract with 3rd year into top 30. I think Gronk or maybe it was me, posted an article recently about why this happens.

Ogden should have only been kept once Moimosea was off the books. We shouldn't have both IMO.