Rumours and Stuff

[the phantom menace]

I'd only be two hours late, at least until daylight saving starts again.

I missed @JohnStoppafarty 's post... a shame as he went to such an effort, for very little return!

Let's just do the dick measuring thing by video - I'll send you both a Zoom link.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Option clauses are basically an "escape clause" for a player for any reason they might fancy at those point(s) in the future (e.g. change of coach, desire to move to a different city), while guaranteeing them some sense of longer term income security if the option(s) aren't taken up.

Smart negotiating on the player's side, for sure.

Depends how much money he gave up in its stead.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No you’re not. Basically he signed a 3 year deal with a ‘maybe’ clause that he will stay after the initial 3 years runs out. Basically the advantage to us is that we know how much money he is expecting if he takes the option. That’s the only advantage I can see.

Look I think he is a decent player but we are still paying for his potential. I’m happy to give him another chance with another coach but when you consider that he is probably at the moment on more money than Luai it annoys the f**k out of me.

I'm off him too.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

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U r a f**kwit at times.
BA picked this club and why we are equal last ya cumb merkin

Nah it's because we lost Moses. We should be favourites against Newcastle like we were against Cronulla.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We are a small club with no money


We are doing Great and done everything right under the circumstances
All haill the side coming equal last


Great achievement

Even the Roosters have shit years. They won six games in 2016.

 

[Tiger5150]

Well yeah, in the six games we've won (or lost narrowly) this year, we've only had more than 54% of the ball once, and in that game we put 26 point on the NRL's second best defensive side. Against the Cowboys we had 51%

Some teams can win with only 47% possession and on the wrong side of a 10-2 Penalty count.

 

[JokerEel]

Even the Roosters have shit years. They won six games in 2016.

in 2015 they finished 2nd and then in 2017 they finished second..

not out of the 8 2 years running

 

[JokerEel]

Some teams can win with only 47% possession and on the wrong side of a 10-2 Penalty count.
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What about 45% and a 9-4 count ffs

 

[JokerEel]

or

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some teams can win with only 47% possession and on the wrong side of a 10-2 Penalty count.
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That's the profile of a team that can't score tries jagging a very narrow win against a team that can't prevent them. As for the penalty count, here's the most penalised teams this year and their position on the ladder:

Merkins	Penalties per game	Ladder position
Roosters	7.1	5th
Bulldogs	6.2	6th
Tigers	5.9	16th
Panthers	5.8	2nd
Sharks	5.4	3rd
Cowboys	5.3	10th
Storm	5.2	1st
Dolphins	5.1	4th

The eight most penalised teams this year includes the top six on the ladder. Your team wasn't on the "wrong side" of anything. You gained an advantage by cheating and only got caught ten times. The data above shows conceding penalties is obviously a better option than whatever those fouls are trying to prevent.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

in 2015 they finished 2nd and then in 2017 they finished second..

not out of the 8 2 years running

We will never be the Roosters so don't even compare. They are the second biggest club in the game after Melbourne.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What about 45% and a 9-4 count ffs
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You're talking about a team we are completely outmatched by. If we hadn't controlled the ball as well as we had, we would've conceded a lot more. Even possession and the margin would've been 40+

 

[Tiger5150]

That's the profile of a team that can't score tries jagging a very narrow win against a team that can't prevent them.

and the profile of a team that is on equal points with Parra and equal last.

You can t twist and turn and spout percentages as much as you like. Rugba Leeg is a simple game. Claiming you need 55% possession to win is ridiculous as the Tigers proved against Parra. Parra dominated possession and the worst team in the comp still beat Parra.....how do you spin that?

 

[lucablight]

Well yeah, in the six games we've won (or lost narrowly) this year, we've only had more than 54% of the ball once, and in that game we put 26 point on the NRL's second best defensive side. Against the Cowboys we had 51%

Right. So we can stop with this nonsense about how we need an overwhelming amount of possession just to remain competitive.

 

[lucablight]

We will never be the Roosters so don't even compare. They are the second biggest club in the game after Melbourne.

The point still stands. We are underachieving relative to our size and “resources”.

 

[hineyrulz]

Have a look at what Luai is doing without Cleary. Brown wasn’t able to do it when Moses went down.

He’s also older, playing in a better team with a better system. And we won’t mention about the coaching, Luai must be just as lucky as Cleary.

 

[hineyrulz]

and the profile of a team that is on equal points with Parra and equal last.

You can t twist and turn and spout percentages as much as you like. Rugba Leeg is a simple game. Claiming you need 55% possession to win is ridiculous as the Tigers proved against Parra. Parra dominated possession and the worst team in the comp still beat Parra.....how do you spin that?

He’ll spin it like the Gatting ball.

 

[Eelementary]

and the profile of a team that is on equal points with Parra and equal last.

You can t twist and turn and spout percentages as much as you like. Rugba Leeg is a simple game. Claiming you need 55% possession to win is ridiculous as the Tigers proved against Parra. Parra dominated possession and the worst team in the comp still beat Parra.....how do you spin that?

Wait...Parra beat Parra?

 

[Pazza]

They are working as intended, reducing his cost under the cap. If he takes up the option we keep him for another two years and if he doesn't we have his cap space free to sign a replacement. Where's the problem? Without the player option he would be costing more.

 

[Delboy]

Yes, but , our guys are much smarter than Gus, that’s because they think they are the smartest in the room.