Rumours and Stuff

[Joshuatheeel]

Is Bird even being targeted as a half???

Who know's....BA probably hasn't even decided that yet if we somehow get him

 

[Bazal]

True, that's the problem the lack of quality options available. We had one but he turned out to be a basket case.

I think BA recognises that we've fallen into a hole as a club before by just signing what was available in an effort to fix things right away. Foran was a fantastic signing....unfortunately our board were doing the dodgy and he became far too expensive. His off field stuff wouldn't have been much of an issue of he was on 800k under the cap, we'd have given him last year off because it was a write off anyway and he'd be back this season and we'd be all good. But because his TPAs got rolled into the cap, he wasn't worth keeping.

I'm sure I saw an interview with BA somewhere where he said we were in no rush to spend Foran's money, that there is a hole in our roster and plenty of cash in our cap for coming seasons and he was waiting for the right player(s) to throw it at. So he sees the problems, but he wants long term success and he wants the right players for that. And I'm cool with that. We just need to be honest about where the holes in the squad are.

 

[Forty20]

This is why I'd personally be pretty happy if Peats came back. Yeah his injuries are a concern, but honestly he's as good as or better than what we're likely to get on the open market anyway. He's an astute player and a great defender, good service, knows when to run and gets his forwards over the ad line. Kaysa is fine as a back up to a player like Peats.

And the constant Peats rumours must be coming from somewhere, so potentially BA is well aware of this as well and is making moves.

I think beyond the injuries my only real criticism of Peatsy was what he brought to the team while we were in possession but you would be a fool if you didn't think he could offer more than Kaysa or King.

I imagine there could be mutual interest between us and Peats but at the same time we would be doing our due diligence in seeing all options available.

 

[strider]

I was bored - so i went and listed all the hookers stats from weekend games (minutes / runs / metres / tackles / missed tackles)

          min ar arm  t mt
lichaa     77  8  62 40 1
mccullogh  80  1   6 60 1
friend     80  1  17 57 4
koroisau   62  7  84 38 6
l brown    18  2  24 10 1
granville  59  4  44 32 3
hampton    21  1   0 11 1
cook       80  7  61 53 4
farah       7  1  13  3 0
brailey    53  2  24 25 0
segyaro    27  5  49 18 2
buhrer*    60 10  70 31 0
levi       60  3  36 39 3
hodgson    80  2  13 35 1
clydsdale   5  1  14  3 0
pritchard  72  1   4 45 6
c smith    80  6  46 42 4
wallace    80  7  28 33 3
luke       80  8 119 29 1
simpkins   45  2  29 24 1
t roberts* 49  4  55  7 0
mcillwrick 70  3  37 35 3
ballin     10  0   0  9 1
mcinnes    80  4  61 44 1

 

[Happy MEel]

I was bored - so i went and listed all the hookers stats from weekend games (minutes / runs / metres / tackles / missed tackles)

          min ar arm  t mt
lichaa     77  8  62 40 1
mccullogh  80  1   6 60 1
friend     80  1  17 57 4
koroisau   62  7  84 38 6
l brown    18  2  24 10 1
granville  59  4  44 32 3
hampton    21  1   0 11 1
cook       80  7  61 53 4
farah       7  1  13  3 0
brailey    53  2  24 25 0
segyaro    27  5  49 18 2
buhrer*    60 10  70 31 0
levi       60  3  36 39 3
hodgson    80  2  13 35 1
clydsdale   5  1  14  3 0
pritchard  72  1   4 45 6
c smith    80  6  46 42 4
wallace    80  7  28 33 3
luke       80  8 119 29 1
simpkins   45  2  29 24 1
t roberts* 49  4  55  7 0
mcillwrick 70  3  37 35 3
ballin     10  0   0  9 1
mcinnes    80  4  61 44 1

McCinness' stats are impressive!!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Could someone do it better though?

That's the problem with this club, we have virtually an entire team of players that can perform a role fine, but if someone can do it better then aren't we better off?

The young and inexperienced players like French, Gutherson and Kritchard will end up better than they currently are.

 

[Forty20]

McCinness' stats are impressive!!

He is a weird one. Is 2017 to date an anomaly or has he finally broken through? South Sydney fans could not wait to see the back of him last year.

 

[Happy MEel]

He is a weird one. Is 2017 to date an anomaly or has he finally broken through? South Sydney fans could not wait to see the back of him last year.

I guess that remains to be seen. I've never rated him either but you can't argue with his start to 2017.

 

[strider]

note: mcinnes had one run of about 40m - so he then had 3 others for about 20m


also - i got those from nrl.com ... which i think isnt entirely accurate - but they would have f**ked up everyone's stats equally ......eg. kaysa has 2 runs for 14 metres and 39 tackles with 5 missed on SMH (dunno who they use for their stats nowdays)

it was just an exercise in seeing what other hookers are doing .... and seeing all those running for 100m

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Then he will fail as an NRL coach. Simple.

Personally I give him a bit more credit than that at this stage. I hope I'm not wrong.

With the number of dummy halves in the squad Arthur made clear his intent for our hooker rotation. Without an 80 minute dummy half option we need to use two blokes in the 17. Maybe that means using Brown for a period, especially with De Gois and King unavailable.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

IDG is a plodder, but he is better at the basics than Pritchard and that's a big factor in why we won so many games. We also had Keiran Foran in the halves with Norman for a bunch of those wins.

Once again, you've gone off the deep end mate. You need to chill out a bit, stop taking everything so much to heart. You'll find I rate BA very highly, and I think he will be fully aware that Pritchard is not the hooker this side needs. That's why Kaysa has never been picked as an 80 minute hooker, until this season when he had no choice thanks to injuries to IDG and King.

Kritchard has always been in the 17 when available though.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

One thing I think may be pertinent when it comes to hookers, Brad Arthur and our apparent disinterest in an 'attacking' hooker is just how starved the NRL is for well rounded hookers. You hear fans lamenting about the lack of quality halves in the game but that honestly applies every bit to the hooking role.

I don't know how many people know this but Michael Lichaa was one of the most highly (and I mean highly) regarded and decorated junior hookers to come through in a long, long time. He owned essentially every junior representative jersey there was to be had and he turned out to be trash. Ditto for Keiran Moseley from Penrith a few years back. Billed for massive things as a hooker, out of the NRL a couple of years later.

In retrospect I would have liked to have seen us take a flyer on Damien Cook but that ship has sailed. In the end what I am getting at is that while defence is obviously a huge part of what BA wants in a hooker I don't think we should be writing him off as not wanting a #9 that can contribute more in attack.

I disagree Lichaa is trash. He is no star, but he is a genuine first grader. If we were to sign anyone I reckon he would be perfect, even more so than Peats, because Lichaa doesn't have the injury history.

 

[Bazal]

Now we know you're trolling. Lichaa is complete garbage. He's not even as good as Matt Keating was.

 

[hindy111]

Last year if I recall (or the year before), kaysa came off the bench and played more of a running forward type roll. So essentially this is his first crack at playing hooker or dummy half, Since his debut year. So, at the ripe age of 22, and with less then 30 games to his name and even less then a handful games he's started, you've already determined he isn't more than a 20 minute bench player. Lol.

In regard to being injury prone, imo that comment gets thrown around very loosely. Injuries have a lot more to do with bad luck, rather then a player being injury prone.

The kid will still continue to develop and improve as he gains experience and confidence.

Latua was thrown out from dogs cause was injury prone- Penrith took a risk on getting him fit. Rest is history.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think BA recognises that we've fallen into a hole as a club before by just signing what was available in an effort to fix things right away. Foran was a fantastic signing....unfortunately our board were doing the dodgy and he became far too expensive.

You reckon he would've been any less expensive if we weren't doing the dodge?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He is a weird one. Is 2017 to date an anomaly or has he finally broken through? South Sydney fans could not wait to see the back of him last year.

Because most fans only look at attack, they won't accept anyone less than Issac Luke at dummy half.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Now we know you're trolling. Lichaa is complete garbage. He's not even as good as Matt Keating was.

'Complete garbage'. f**king drama queen.

 

[hindy111]

One thing I think may be pertinent when it comes to hookers, Brad Arthur and our apparent disinterest in an 'attacking' hooker is just how starved the NRL is for well rounded hookers. You hear fans lamenting about the lack of quality halves in the game but that honestly applies every bit to the hooking role.

I don't know how many people know this but Michael Lichaa was one of the most highly (and I mean highly) regarded and decorated junior hookers to come through in a long, long time. He owned essentially every junior representative jersey there was to be had and he turned out to be trash. Ditto for Keiran Moseley from Penrith a few years back. Billed for massive things as a hooker, out of the NRL a couple of years later.

In retrospect I would have liked to have seen us take a flyer on Damien Cook but that ship has sailed. In the end what I am getting at is that while defence is obviously a huge part of what BA wants in a hooker I don't think we should be writing him off as not wanting a #9 that can contribute more in attack.

Raiders had a hooker with huge wraps to-Name slip my mind-Also junk- AS was Srna from titans.

 

[Bazal]

'Complete garbage'. f**king drama queen.

Lol. Troll.

Lichaa is the worst full time starting hooker in the NRL.

 

[Bazal]

You reckon he would've been any less expensive if we weren't doing the dodge?

If his TPAs were legal there would be no issue. In fact you actually agreed with this point in another Foran discussion a few weeks ago.

But no, you don't argue just for the sake of it....never, not Pou!