Rumours and Stuff

[eels_fan]

Unless the players knew this would be required when they signed their contract then clubs shouldn't be forcing it on them. They pay them money, not own them.

Disagree. Does that mean every sponsorship requires sign off from the playing squad? Contract would state you need to follow the clubs dress policy and uniform. What that consists of is irrelevant

 

[Snoochies]

As a Christian I am sure you are fully supportive of inclusion, acceptance and tolerance ?

"What would Jesus do ?", is a very powerful interrogation.

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Jesus answered them, “Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick do. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

You think Jesus came to affirm them? He loved them where they are and called them to what? When the teachers of the law came to stone the woman for adultery, what did Jesus say to her? Keep it up?

And realise Jesus was also speaking to those under the law of Moses. He was calling his people back.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I don't understand the argument from the LGBQTI+ side that the players happy to wear clothing with gambling and alcohol on it. When has Christianity been against gambling and alcohol in recent times? Jesus loved his wine.

In the 'berra, a Christian Club is one of the biggest owners of poker machines and sellers of alcohol in the entire city.

It's not even the same regardless of their views on gambling/ alcohol. Those are club sponsors or provide funds, not one off jerseys to support a particular issue or ideology.

I don't see the big deal. If they don't want to play, fine, let them sit out, but let's respect them.
On the other hand, if the jerseys have sold out and it shows the fans like the Idea, also great. That still doesn't mean those 4 are wrong- they aren't saying public opinion prevents them playing...

The whole thing shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe I don't know the whole story and those Manly players have publicly slandered people? But if not, both sides can coexist....

 

[hindy111]

a fickle bunch aren't we, hard to fathom some comments here and on social media

we've bent over backwards to accommodate Muslims, indigenous people and other minority groups over the years and yet when other religious beliefs like Christianity causes an issue, we criticise them

so no freedom of religion in Australia ?

some people just want to be outraged

I'm missing 6 lettuce. I'm f**king outraged

 

[Chipmunk]

Why is it a side? That’s the whole point of inclusivity that their isn’t any sides, everyone is just a bloody human.

if you’re happy to share a change room and field with someone who (allegedly) bashed his missus whilst she was holding a baby, but can’t bring yourself to wear a rainbow stripe for 80mins you have issues

My comment wasn't about the players, and perhaps I should have rephrased and said 'side of the argument'.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I mentioned that sports, and politics, shouldn't mix, but it's easy to see why the temptation exists to have them together - you will reach a hell of a lot more people using sport to promote a concept, than through other means.

And likewise, it's easier to sell your sporting product if you link it to fashionable political causes. See the NBA's overt support for BLM while banning support for Hong Kong.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I have a couple of very close mates that are gay I clearly have no problem with it. But FFS can we stop trying to use sport to ram this shit down peoples throats?

Clearly Polynesian players possibly with their strong religious values could pose problems and thus cause segregation.

Can we not just enjoy our f**king footy free from agenda?!

A couple of rainbows is ramming it down people's throats?

These players are hypocrites, they don't have strong religious values. They're using this as an excuse for their ignorance.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Disagree. Does that mean every sponsorship requires sign off from the playing squad? Contract would state you need to follow the clubs dress policy and uniform. What that consists of is irrelevant

On the flip side does that mean players must wear a jersey that supports any cause at all?

 

[yy_cheng]

Do these guys not practice sex before marriage and without it being your spouse?

Isn't accepting Jesus into your heart before you die the crux of it ?

 

[Gronk]

I hope you went on to read the rest of the URL.
Jesus answered them, “Those who are healthy have no need for a physician, but those who are sick do. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

You think Jesus came to affirm them? He loved them where they are and called them to what? When the teachers of the law came to stone the woman for adultery, what did Jesus say to her? Keep it up?

And realise Jesus was also speaking to those under the law of Moses. He was calling his people back.

Oh, you want a scripture quote-a-thon ? Then I must warn you that I have seen Jesus Christ Superstar twice.

[JUDAS]
It seems to me a strange thing, mystifying
That a man like you could waste his time
On women of her kind

[SIMON (spoken)]
Hey, cool it man

[JUDAS]
Yes, I can understand that she amuses
But to let her kiss you, stroke your hair
That's hardly in your line

It's not that I object to her profession
But she doesn't fit in well with what you teach and say
It doesn't help us if you're inconsistent
They only need a small excuse to put us all away

[JESUS]
Who are you to criticize her?
Who are you to despise her?
If your slate is clean, then you can throw stones
If your slate is not, then leave her alone!

I'm amazed that men like you
Can be so shallow, thick and slow
There is not a man among you
Who knows or cares if I come or go

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I suppose it's about trying to make LBTQI people feel welcome.

As you said, it's not a choice, so rational people shouldn't have an issue with it to begin with.

But if the world was filled with rational people...

And here's the thing. Your sexual preferences might not be a choice, but initiating/consenting to sexual activity is always a choice. This is where the sin part comes in, not the thought crime of wanting to bang someone you oughtn't. This is why we don't lock paedophiles up for being attracted to children, we lock them up for touching them (and in recent years, for grooming them, which is also a choice).

 

[jk13]

bill burr does a good take on breast cancer taking over the nfl. but the main problem here is management not consulting the workers as usual.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Right on, my n-word!

Hate speech

 

[eels_fan]

On the flip side does that mean players must wear a jersey that supports any cause at all?

If their employer supports it, then yes, or they can seek alternative employment

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Yeah and the club could have come out with "error in making the pride jerseys, 7 players missed out but as a whole the club supported gay pride... blah blah blah"

They could have an end-of-season state of origin equivalent game with those who support inclusiveness playing against those who don't. Should be some good fights among the fans. The post-game interviews would also be interesting. Actually, maybe should get the Saudis on the phone.

 

[84 Baby]

And here's the thing. Your sexual preferences might not be a choice, but initiating/consenting to sexual activity is always a choice. This is where the sin part comes in, not the thought crime of wanting to bang someone you oughtn't. This is why we don't lock paedophiles up for being attracted to children, we lock them up for touching them (and in recent years, for grooming them, which is also a choice).

Are you seriously matching consenting sexual preference with paedophilia?

 

[84 Baby]

Yeah, I don't see the fuss about this, tbh.

We've been flat out robbed, and in bigger games:

2007 - Final against Melbourne, Morrison scores in the corner; vision of the grounding is obscured by defenders; goes to video ref (before the days where the onfield ref needed to make a call, prior to sending it for review); video ref looks at footage 20 times, and claims no try - despite the fact that the rule states that if there is doubt, the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking team; if they reviewed the footage 20 times, they clearly had doubt

2021 Final against Penrith - dubious high tackle penalty, allowing their trainer to slow the game down when we were on the attack

2009 Grand Final - Slater dropped the ball on halfway cold; Moimoi was penalised, they march down field, and Inglis kicks the field goal

Yeah 2007 was the game where Inu put a poofteenth (topical) of his boot on the sideline and video ref took a bazillion views of that to call him out

 

[Gronk]

bill burr does a good take on breast cancer taking over the nfl. but the main problem here is management not consulting the workers as usual.

They certainly did not read the room. But the players need to take responsibility too and situations like this will arise again.

The Wallabies lost Qantas as a huge sponsor over the Izzy shit storm. Players need to understand that their actions do have an impact. Perhaps these players become less attractive to have in your roster if they are not always going to adhere to direction.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are you seriously matching consenting sexual preference with paedophilia?

In the context of sin, yes. Consent between adults is a modern, secular idea. It doesn't override the idea of sin (for those who believe in sin). Even in secular Western law there are things that consenting adults can't legally do together. You can't bang your mother or sell yourself into slavery, for example.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Yeah 2007 was the game where Inu put a poofteenth (topical) of his boot on the sideline and video ref took a bazillion views of that to call him out

Also Brett White basically ripped out Nathan Cayless pectoral muscle with a chicken wing that game which we didnt get a penalty for.