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Sack Adam O'Brien

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Lol Randall is a reserve grader but he is far from the issue with our attack

He was our hooker v Roosters in Rd 1 and we looked very slick. Even against the Panthers in Rd 3 we looked sharp

The problem with the team is a mental one
 

Yosh

Coach
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Lol Randall is a reserve grader but he is far from the issue with our attack

He was our hooker v Roosters in Rd 1 and we looked very slick. Even against the Panthers in Rd 3 we looked sharp

The problem with the team is a mental one
One swallow doesn't make a summer.
 

aqua_duck

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But it does make for a good time

Seriously though, if youre laying the blame at Randalls feet then youre being massively short sighted indeed
obviously the fault doesn't lie entirely with Randall but he does play a very important position in the modern game. Randall is abit like Clune, an honest contributor who made 1st grade at a later age through determination and desire in the absense of natural ability. Those guys are leading the reserve grade side around and getting the occasional run in 1st grade not your starting 7 and 9.
Randall just offers zero running threat from dummy half which nullifies a good quick ptb and his service out of dummy half is slow and not crisp.
 

Sir Galahad

Juniors
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Since when has 'done very well' become to mean 'he is a competent and totally adequate player'? How low are our standards now?

When pathetic finally puts in an average performance it gets a standing ovation (and calls for re-signing) - That's how low the standards and expectations of the Knights and a good percentage of its supporters are.
 

Sir Galahad

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You probably need more than one decent hooker in the squad, especially if the one you have gets injured all the time.
particularly a spine player, why build a roster with back-up players who've thoroughly reached their ceiling and never amount to much ? why waste the contract on a Randall or a Clune ?

Where is the strategy of training and coaching the next young fella to take over the reigns of our spine, future proofing the clubs roster?
 
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particularly a spine player, why build a roster with back-up players who've thoroughly reached their ceiling and never amount to much ? why waste the contract on a Randall or a Clune ?

Where is the strategy of training and coaching the next young fella to take over the reigns of our spine, future proofing the clubs roster?
After Tinkler pulled the plug the juniors were left all at sea. The club only just started investing in them properly back in 2019, getting in the right staff and systems. Have a look at how well our Ball and Flegg teams are going this year to see how its all starting to bare fruit. Unfortunately we are a few years away from it having an effect on our Cup and 1st grade teams so in the meantime we need to either squeeze the most out of the guys that are here or import others
 

Burwood

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What I don’t get is why we have a hooker like Luke Huth who is about to turn 23 and going into his 4th season in NSW Cup, but unable to get a run at NRL level. He can’t even manage to nail down the starting position in reserves when Randall is playing firsts.

If he isn’t good enough by now to play at this level, is there a particular reason why is he still in the system? Surely there’s a promising junior or recruit who can offer more.
 

Old dog

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He has done very well? Is he in the run for a rep selection or Dally M award?

Since when has 'done very well' become to mean 'he is a competent and totally adequate player'? How low are our standards now?
Who said anything about competent or adequate, he is playing strong every week and by that he has done well unlike some on here I don’t have to make trash comments and wish all to be sacked
 

Loose Cannon

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Come on guys.

Let’s keep this conversation for the purpose of sacking Adam O’Brien for his inadequacy, rather than his subordinates.

There are plenty of reasons, which are his failures alone.
 
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What I don’t get is why we have a hooker like Luke Huth who is about to turn 23 and going into his 4th season in NSW Cup, but unable to get a run at NRL level. He can’t even manage to nail down the starting position in reserves when Randall is playing firsts.

If he isn’t good enough by now to play at this level, is there a particular reason why is he still in the system? Surely there’s a promising junior or recruit who can offer more.
See my post above mate

We have our young guys playing in the comps where they can develop the best. They get to play with each other and come through the grades, now this is the most important part, together. Look at how that benefitted Penrith

It sucks but we need to be patient
 
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I just find it amusing that us Knights fans apparently need to be patient when that's all we've been for the past 20 years
No doubt, however the club hasnt been with its development hence the shitty position our juniors were in

We need to wait it out further though but at least we can see that the processes are starting to work
 

Old dog

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Always thought Huth was a very good player back 3-4 years but along came Covid and he seemed to disappear and missed lots of opportunity to develop. I believe he has had health issues, no sure if that’s right, but no matter what he can’t take Randall’s spot as he isnt in top 30 or development, can’t understand why, if Randall got injured who at this time would play 9, Crossland as Mann is injured.
 

Sir Galahad

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Unfortunately we are a few years away from it having an effect on our Cup and 1st grade teams so in the meantime we need to either squeeze the most out of the guys that are here or import others
do you think we're on a course similar to the Panthers and will be a force in a few years ? Please tell me this is so.

Edit - how long do you think until we could possibly see the first trickle of these youngsters coming into first grade
 
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