Sack Adam O'Brien

[Apey]

Drew and passed well a few times down a blind side/right edge which was pretty awful and backed up on a break for a try. Can't really fault the guy tonight, but that really isn't anything out of the ordinary and what should be the basic requirements for any NRL half. What else did he do tonight?

He also did these things when the game was over and the Roosters had gone to sleep, don't forget. Nobody cares how well you play in a 10 minute period down by 40 points. Well AOB does.

 

[slotmachine]

What else did he do tonight?

He wasn't clune, who might have been the worst player on the park

 

[aqua_duck]

Drew and passed well a few times down a blind side/right edge which was pretty awful and backed up on a break for a try. Can't really fault the guy tonight, but that really isn't anything out of the ordinary and what should be the basic requirements for any NRL half. What else did he do tonight?

wouldn't even say his draw and pass was anything above Harold mats level, he simply just promoted the ball and one of them was lucky not to be called forward. I guess context is key, the general bar set for Crossland is about a 1 or 2 out of 10 and last night he was a solid 4 or 5 out of 10 so I suppose that's a good game by his standards

 

[SamSepi0l]

He wasn't clune, who might have been the worst player on the park

This. He offers nothing.

 

[Knight Tales]

At least the media outside of the local are starting to turn up the heat. Like it or not the Sydney media have far more agitation skills and know what pressure point to hit. The closed shop we run is so detrimental to the fans rights as supporters. I hope we start to become a focal point now our season is over. The mentality towards outside media is why they stop caring and we suffer as supporters. They simply move on to the next story.

 

[Haffa]

Ponga being on ice for the rest of the year will save him.

 

[Billythekid]

I think there is often a tendency to just blame the coach and far too often they’re just used as scapegoats. That’s not what’s happening here. This is a team that is rapidly sliding backwards during what was supposed to be the period where you’s we’re moving forward and maybe competing.

After years of rebuilding it looked like the knights were on the up (and even this year there were a lot of people predicting a decent top 8 finish). Instead the only thing keeping the knights from the spoon is a couple of other clubs capitulating in epic fashion. Even then the knights look set to have the worst for and against which is maybe even worse.

I could maybe understand if he was a proven coach who has shown previously that he can win (like say a Maguire).

In terms of how the team looks there have been many great posts on here summing up why he’s no good so I don’t feel the need to add anything more to that.

 

[Jono078]

We have the worst F/A in the comp along with the worst defence.

They are things that should make any coach uneasy about their position and are telling signs players are not responding and putting in for you.

 

[aqua_duck]

In terms of future outlook I think we'd be close to wooden spoon favourites along with the titans next year. The tigers are a basket case but I'd argue their roster has less question marks than we do.
I know McGuire got sacked and probably deservedly so but I think the fact he was able to attract guys like Hastings, Laurie, Utoikamanu, Doueihi, Koroisau and Papalii at least means the tigers have something to build off moving forward and at least on the field I'd argue he left the tigers in a better position than we he came in, AOB has done the complete opposite, he inherited a side that had the ingredients to be a top 8 side and sure enough he managed to limp into the 8 but when he leaves unless things change dramatically the team will be in a far worse position than when he took over.

 

[Yosh]

The Doggies got in Gould to steady the ship and the Tigers got Sheens. Who can steady our ship and get us going thr right direction?

If Brad Arthur is available, do we go for him? He did a pretty good job over at Parra. They were worse than us when he took over.

Could be day dreaming but can we get Trent Robinson here again somehow??

 

[Walk On Home Boy]

The Doggies got in Gould to steady the ship and the Tigers got Sheens. Who can steady our ship and get us going thr right direction?

If Brad Arthur is available, do we go for him? He did a pretty good job over at Parra. They were worse than us when he took over.

Could be day dreaming but can we get Trent Robinson here again somehow??

Whoever it is, I feel sorry for them. On the flipside, the accolades on offer for the person credited with turning this club around would give them legendary status. Need someone looking for the ultimate challenge.

Don't stop dreaming brother. Dreams are all we have at this point.

 

[Knight Tales]

the issue for the coach whether it be a rookie or Bellamy is there has been no sustained success or effort for 2 decades. What would they be able to change if it is clearly big issues outside the club walls as well.

 

[Bdubs]

the issue for the coach whether it be a rookie or Bellamy is there has been no sustained success or effort for 2 decades. What would they be able to change if it is clearly big issues outside the club walls as well.

well we can't go down the rookie coach again as the issues with this club will overwhelm them.

What we need is an experienced, hard, no nonsense coach who will come in and demand effort, train the players hard and the players that don't like it and whinge can immediately be shown the door. The coach needs to be able to tell the board basically what to do and not accept their interference.

There are only 2 coaches that come to mind, Bellamy is one, but he will retire at the end of next season. The only other one is Flanagan and he comes with his issues but i believe he is the one we need at this point in time. I think he will even help with recruitement as players will come to play under him

 

[Mr_Knightside]

Another coach who comes to mind who has a bit of a hard edge is Neill Henry. He managed to toughen up the Gold Coast team he was in charge of before the club derailed everything by signing Hayne. Henry was hard done by given he didn’t want Hayne to be signed and he lost his job as a result.

Yeah he doesn’t have the pedigree of Flanagan from a premiership standpoint but he’s capable of being tough which our club needs.

Obviously he hasn’t been a head coach for a few years now (neither has Flanagan) and I don’t know if he’s intending to go back into head coaching but I don’t think he’d be the worst option out there.

 

[Burwood]

Boys, be careful asking for someone to come in and help the coach. It’ll likely be premiership winner Hagan taking on the role.

 

[Bdubs]

Another coach who comes to mind who has a bit of a hard edge is Neill Henry. He managed to toughen up the Gold Coast team he was in charge of before the club derailed everything by signing Hayne. Henry was hard done by given he didn’t want Hayne to be signed and he lost his job as a result.

Yeah he doesn’t have the pedigree of Flanagan from a premiership standpoint but he’s capable of being tough which our club needs.

Obviously he hasn’t been a head coach for a few years now (neither has Flanagan) and I don’t know if he’s intending to go back into head coaching but I don’t think he’d be the worst option out there.

Yes agree Neill Henry would be a good option also. Didn't think of him

 

[ryan.a87]

Boys, be careful asking for someone to come in and help the coach. It’ll likely be premiership winner Hagan taking on the role.

Could you imagine if the club brought in Hagen and Rick Stone as coaching consultants…..we would riot

 

[Bdubs]

Boys, be careful asking for someone to come in and help the coach. It’ll likely be premiership winner Hagan taking on the role.

just to clarify, i'm not suggestng to come in and help O'Brien, he needs to go. He's proven to be way out of his depth. Agree we don't want hagan back here either. Imagine how much worse things would be if he was here now

I'm suggesting a new coach who could take control of the club with everything to do with the team

 

[Haffa]

Isn’t Hages up in NQ helping their resurgence? I’m never one to defend his record but that’s the last bit of news I heard on him.

 

[Jono078]

Isn’t Hages up in NQ helping their resurgence? I’m never one to defend his record but that’s the last bit of news I heard on him.

Hages has never really had a bad coaching record. His problem has always been roster management. He hands out contracts without thinking too far ahead then gets himself into a pickle.