Sack Adam O'Brien

[Yosh]

Watching the likes of To'a, Meaney and King do well at other clubs is making me sick. Why haven't the players developed under AOB?

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

Watching the likes of To'a, Meaney and King do well at other clubs is making me sick. Why haven't the players developed under AOB?

King developed under O'Brien imo. Do you remember what he was like before he came to the club?

 

[The Axe of Druss]

To'a has had 1, maybe 2 ok games for the tigers so far

Was awful the other times he played this year

I wouldnt start holding him up as some sort of "one that got away" just yet

 

[Jono078]

To'a has had 1, maybe 2 ok games for the tigers so far

Was awful the other times he played this year

I wouldnt start holding him up as some sort of "one that got away" just yet

That wasn't the point for me. He's 1000% better than Musgrove.

 

[TooheysNew]

King developed under O'Brien imo. Do you remember what he was like before he came to the club?

Hard to judge the bloke when he was still working full time as well as playing first grade until mid 2019.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

That wasn't the point for me. He's 1000% better than Musgrove.

Maybe, but did anyone show any interest in Musgrove?

Tough to stand in a players way when he can go somewhere with a genuine shot at FG. Id like our club to be a little more ruthless but in the same vein id not want them to hold players back from a genuine opportunity that our club cant provide.

Its a shame about Musgrove. I thought he looked really good at centre in our 2021 trail against the Storm. Like To'a, he was only given a crack on the wing in firsts and stunk it up. Hes been pretty poor at centre in reggies though

 

[Jono078]

Maybe, but did anyone show any interest in Musgrove?

Tough to stand in a players way when he can go somewhere with a genuine shot at FG. Id like our club to be a little more ruthless but in the same vein id not want them to hold players back from a genuine opportunity that our club cant provide.

Its a shame about Musgrove. I thought he looked really good at centre in our 2021 trail against the Storm. Like To'a, he was only given a crack on the wing in firsts and stunk it up. Hes been pretty poor at centre in reggies though

I'm glad we didn't stand in his way at a first grade opportunity but in the end it looks like we're handing out helping hands and we've got nothing in return and/or haven't replaced them.

That's piss poor and we'll only have ourselves (the club) to blame when we lose by 50 to the Storm on the weekend, because we weren't ruthless enough with building our squad even though we have the cap and positions available.

 

[Yosh]

Take out the Dragon's game and I think we have scored 1 try in the last month. Literally 1 try in 3 games. Are we that bad? Seems more a coaching issue.

What you lads think of that Stat?

 

[Jono078]

It's a scary one.

Not only is it a structure or play style issue, it's become an effort and lack of desire issue, as a team. No one prepared to run decoys or support players. It's all pass it once or twice and hope the guy with the ball does something.

0-18 vs Sharks
6-30 vs Sea Eagles (without Turbo)
2-39 vs Eels

That's an average of 2.7 points average in those 3 games against expected top 8 teams this year. It's incredibly dire.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

I think one of the biggest issues here is that AOB is very quick to revert to simple and overly structured football when he thinks that our situation demands it. Our tries have dried up because we decided to play wet weather footy against the sharks, then we weren’t good enough at it against the Sea Eagles then last weekend the team just didn’t turn up for some reason. We’ve got a bunch of injuries and when this happened last year the team reverted to one out hit ups and over structure rather than playing eyes up football which is what we should be doing.

 

[Sir Galahad]

it's dire, no doubt the wheels have fallen off and I can imagine this weekend it's only going to get worse.

I look past the troubles of this playing group and look towards the men in charge of roster management because without fixing that I really dont see things improving much.

I dont care about just making the top 8. I want Premiership. f**k scrapping into the top 8, that's for wannabe's if couldbe's.

The team needs leaders, the team needs characters, the team needs to rid itself of average plod and not accept it as a part of the clubs identity.

A kick ass culling is needed or AOB can kiss his dreams of coaching goodbye.

 

[Knight76]

I can imagine the reaction from Gardner, OB rocks up to say we need a clean out...

I don't believe a clean out is required. Just 1 leader that is a talker and motivator.

Sprinkle some decent depth in the squad wouldn't hurt.

And OB to actually structure the side correctly would be a big plus.

 

[Sir Galahad]

I can imagine the reaction from Gardner, OB rocks up to say we need a clean out...

I don't believe a clean out is required. Just 1 leader that is a talker and motivator.

Sprinkle some decent depth in the squad wouldn't hurt.

And OB to actually structure the side correctly would be a big plus.

I should be more specific, the "team" doesnt need a major cleanout, we have the nucleus of a very competitive side. Outside of about 11 players though , the "squad" needs a major cull.

These 11 players could take us to a premiership - after these guys we have reserve grade quality ( at best ) , with very few deserving of a place in the squad as back- up players.

1. Ponga
2. Young
3. Gagai
4. Best
5.
6 Cliff
7.
8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. D. Saf
11. Friz
12.
13

14.
15. Thompson
16. JSaf
17.

 

[ryan.a87]

I should be more specific, the "team" doesnt need a major cleanout, we have the nucleus of a very competitive side. Outside of about 11 players though , the "squad" needs a major cull.

These 11 players could take us to a premiership - after these guys we have reserve grade quality ( at best ) , with very few deserving of a place in the squad as back- up players.

1. Ponga
2. Young
3. Gagai
4. Best
5.
6 Cliff
7.
8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. D. Saf
11. Friz
12.
13

14.
15. Thompson
16. JSaf
17.

I think Hunt has shown he is worth that wing spot
I’m also going to give the benefit of the doubt considering he has been out of the game for 18months or so.

I also think Matt Croker was very good before his injury

but yeah, I agree with the rest.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

Yeah Hunt is a very good winger that deserves a spot. Tuala can finish but just struggles in the physical stuff in defence and coming out of the 20

 

[Yosh]

I should be more specific, the "team" doesnt need a major cleanout, we have the nucleus of a very competitive side. Outside of about 11 players though , the "squad" needs a major cull.

These 11 players could take us to a premiership - after these guys we have reserve grade quality ( at best ) , with very few deserving of a place in the squad as back- up players.

1. Ponga
2. Young
3. Gagai
4. Best
5.
6 Cliff
7.
8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. D. Saf
11. Friz
12.
13

14.
15. Thompson
16. JSaf
17.

Maybe?
5. Tuala/Hunt
7. Jackson Hastings
12. Nanai
13. Kai Paul-Pearce
14. Will Pyrce
17. Mat Croker

Nanai and Hastings will be free agents in 2024 I believe.

 

[Knight Tales]

Maybe?
5. Tuala/Hunt
7. Jackson Hastings
12. Nanai
13. Kai Paul-Pearce
14. Will Pyrce
17. Mat Croker

Nanai and Hastings will be free agents in 2024 I believe.

Hastings would be a realistic target. I like his attitude towards the game. The guy puts it up as much as he talks it up. He has lost his cockiness which always got in the way of his development.

 

[Jono078]

Hastings would be a realistic target. I like his attitude towards the game. The guy puts it up as much as he talks it up. He has lost his cockiness which always got in the way of his development.

Based on what I've seen so far, he'd be very handy and has the leadership qualities we're looking for.

But I'd also hate to see him leave the Tigers as they took a punt on him in many ways and it'd be nice for them to be rewarded with that/

 

[ryan.a87]

Based on what I've seen so far, he'd be very handy and has the leadership qualities we're looking for.

But I'd also hate to see him leave the Tigers as they took a punt on him in many ways and it'd be nice for them to be rewarded with that/

Yeah.realistically they are more likely to let Brooks go over Hastings

 

[Sir Galahad]

Keepers - young and potential ( total 6)
Croker
Sasagi
Mapapalangi
Hodgson
Vea'ila
Purcell

Maybe's - wanna be showing something very soon or out the door ( total 2 )
Momoisea
Jones

Squad filler ( total 3) in emergency break glass
Mann
Fitzgibbon
Hunt