Sack Adam O'Brien

[Apey]

Meh. The club can pay him out at anytime if they want him gone. It’s not like he’s on a million a year and we’ve still got guys training at the uni out of shipping containers.

I wonder how much we are paying him, purely out of curiosity.

 

[Knight Tales]

Meh. The club can pay him out at anytime if they want him gone. It’s not like he’s on a million a year and we’ve still got guys training at the uni out of shipping containers.

Yeah. Money is money though. And it was always a huge gamble this extension.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

I wonder how much we are paying him, purely out of curiosity.

I'd have a guess and say the average NRL coach would be on 600 -700?

He'd be a cheapie below average I reckon - which means the Knights will be paying him 900K

 

[perverse]

I'd have a guess and say the average NRL coach would be on 600 -700?

He'd be a cheapie below average I reckon - which means the Knights will be paying him 900K

Jesus, time to dust off the old clipboard... let the club know I'm available.

 

[mozza91]

Jesus, time to dust off the old clipboard... let the club know I'm available.

I’ll put my hand up to do it too. I can yell, sound dumb af in press conferences and tell them not to attack. I’ll even do it for half of Obi’s salary.

 

[perverse]

I’ll put my hand up to do it too. I can yell, sound dumb af in press conferences and tell them not to attack. I’ll even do it for half of Obi’s salary.

We can split it mate.

 

[Apey]

If I remember correctly there is a football department salary cap, but you rarely hear anything about it for obvious reasons. The top few coaches are apparently on 1 - 1.5M - Wayne, Cleary, Bellamy and presumably Robinson. I doubt any coaches are cheap these days given the lack of quality going around.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

If I remember correctly there is a football department salary cap, but you rarely hear anything about it for obvious reasons. The top few coaches are apparently on 1 - 1.5M - Wayne, Cleary, Bellamy and presumably Robinson. I doubt any coaches are cheap these days given the lack of quality going around.

so how much you think AOB would be on ? 900K ? the payout starts to get quite sizable

 

[Scootsie]

The defensive efforts aren't the issue so much. 7th best in the comp for points conceded.

It's the attack where the poor coaching and lack of initiative lies. 17th in the comp for points scored - simple as that really. Ridiculous for a team that scored the most tries in the comp last year.

That’s interesting. Thanks for that.
Defence is even more important then if you’re not scoring points.
Lack of initiative sums it up for me - Inability to break from the coach’s plans and structures when the play dictates.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

That’s interesting. Thanks for that.
Defence is even more important then if you’re not scoring points.
Lack of initiative sums it up for me - Inability to break from the coach’s plans and structures when the play dictates.

The thing is, if our attack was half decent we wouldn’t be under so much pressure defensively. If we had the ability to kick out to a 3-4 try lead then teams would take a lot more risks to try and catch up, which often leads to errors and a release of pressure. Problem is we’re never able to get much of a lead on the board so teams just grind their way back into the game knowing that they probably only need to cross the stripe once to win.

It also energises the players seeing this happen and naturally they’re going to defend better when they’ve got this mentality.

We saw exactly this last year. Our attack was incredible over that 10 game streak and I believe we also had one of the best defensive records during that time too. Not hard to draw a conclusion that being good at one should have a positive effect on the other.

 

[Jono078]

The thing is, if our attack was half decent we wouldn’t be under so much pressure defensively. If we had the ability to kick out to a 3-4 try lead then teams would take a lot more risks to try and catch up, which often leads to errors and a release of pressure. Problem is we’re never able to get much of a lead on the board so teams just grind their way back into the game knowing that they probably only need to cross the stripe once to win.

It also energises the players seeing this happen and naturally they’re going to defend better when they’ve got this mentality.

We saw exactly this last year. Our attack was incredible over that 10 game streak and I believe we also had one of the best defensive records during that time too. Not hard to draw a conclusion that being good at one should have a positive effect on the other.

Correct. This is how the ladder looks last year from round 18 onwards;

 

[Yosh]

Correct. This is how the ladder looks last year from round 18 onwards;

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I sort of look back at this period and while it was fun, it was a poisoned chalice. Feels like we traded 10 fun weeks for another 3 years of boring losing football under AOB.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

I sort of look back at this period and while it was fun, it was a poisoned chalice. Feels like we traded 10 fun weeks for another 3 years of boring losing football under AOB.

The weird thing is why has this happened? It seems like we finally figured out the magic formula for winning consistently and being bloody entertaining to watch in the process and after one pre-season we’ve gone back to one-out hitups, uncontested kicks and refusing to attack unless we’re in the 20m zone. This is the same strategy that had us finishing near the bottom of the table in 2022. It’s absolutely mind boggling that we would go back to that.

I wasn’t expecting another 10 match winning streak this year but at the very least I thought we’d pick up where we left off from a football perspective and continue to build on the way we played last year. But instead we’ve reverted to AOB-ball which is proven to be totally outdated and stale.

 

[macavity]

Time to pull a Ted Lasso on the comp.

Bill Bellichick for Knights coach

 

[Haffa]

I sort of look back at this period and while it was fun, it was a poisoned chalice. Feels like we traded 10 fun weeks for another 3 years of boring losing football under AOB.

We all (minus the one sheep) cautioned on a renewal when it was getting reported in the week of the Canberra game for this very reason. He was already locked in for this year.

 

[Haffa]

Time to pull a Ted Lasso on the comp.

Bill Bellichick for Knights coach

Mike Holmgren

 

[macavity]

Mike Holmgren

I mean could be cool but he is 76, even older than creeping Jesus.

 

[Scootsie]

Well, there are some good brains looking at this from many different angles. But for me, I think the Knights are one of the best placed teams to get one thing right - win most of your home games.
Over the past few seasons, look at the percentages of home games won by top 4 and top 8 teams and you’ll see it is up around 70% plus.
When the Knights dropped their opening home game against the Raiders this year, I made a mental note that they might be in for a tough season, and they dropped subsequent home games Which was disappointing.
in fact, we‘ll all probably remember that wet night early in the season where so many loyal Knights supporters turned up and Joey Johns said ‘…..and they serve up this Rubbish!?

 

[PhilGould]

SHOOSH​

Which NRL club board is split over the future of its head coach. It’s a big story because they have already earmarked a potential replacement.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/monday-buzz-phil-rothfield-reveals-his-highlights-and-lowlights-from-the-weekend-in-sport/news-story/4e16d683f25c28f484660d711c51fb79?amp

From Buzz's column. About as vague as it gets but the Knights are the obvious team that comes to mind, most of the other mediocre/bad teams either already have a new coach coming in or a coach in the first year of a longterm deal.

 

[Nuke]

It's a nice thought that it's us, however my gut instinct, my first reaction, is that it's Brisbane. The old boys brigade trying to keep their mate as coach vs the ones who can see he's not doing much for them.

The fact that whichever club it is has a replacement earmarked is the interesting bit for me. Not many decent coaches available at the moment.