Sack Adam O'Brien

[Apey]

Johns bros in particular Matty wants Craig.
Everyone inside the 4 walls has wanted Greeny for a long time

Craig?
Bellamy?
Lol

 

[Woosh]

Brian.. nickname of Craig

 

[Knight Tales]

AOB take a bow. He had that press gathering in total admiration today. He should be involved in player welfare for the NRL. He cares about his players and those around him. That is not in dispute. Nor can it be argued against.

 

[ryan.a87]

just watched the conference

You can tell how passionate he is about the place

let’s resign him!

 

[PhilGould]

Not sure it was any more believable or authentic than his usual post game ones. Don't deny that he tried very hard but his words have always felt more like hot air. To his credit from other reports it does sound like he genuinely fell on his own sword which I appreciate.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

The more i think about it the more i hate the idea of us appointing Green as the next coach

I mean, hes never been a head coach at any level, hes presided over the worst attack in modern NRL history, hes only been an assistant for a couple of years. What exactly makes him a good candidate for an NRL head coaching role? The players like him? pffft

I have this sinking feeling hes the most low cost option and/or hes an Isaac Moses client and its a leverage play to get out of having to pay AOB his full contract payout

 

[Yosh]

If we choose Greeny because he is a nice bloke, we are going to be in a world of hurt again. Let's just choose whoever is best for the job. There aren't many NRL positions and everyone is dying for one, let them duke it out.

 

[Apey]

Not sure it was any more believable or authentic than his usual post game ones. Don't deny that he tried very hard but his words have always felt more like hot air. To his credit from other reports it does sound like he genuinely fell on his own sword which I appreciate.

Yeah, it's hard to know really. Could easily been part of the agreement that it wasn't a sacking and both parties would stick with the line this was AOB's choice. Doesn't really matter in the end either.

 

[Burwood]

Has McDermott shown any desire to be a head coach in the NRL? He’s been here a few years now, so maybe he feels more comfortable with the huge step up in professionalism compared to over in England.

As for Green, I just can’t get my head around him. The Moses connection alone is enough for me wanting the club to have nothing to do with him.

Speaking of Moses, has there ever been such an amicable split between club and a player/coach managed by Moses as there has been with Newcastle and AOB? Every other one that comes to mind seems to end with the club getting screwed in some capacity.

 

[Seage]

The more i think about it the more i hate the idea of us appointing Green as the next coach

I mean, hes never been a head coach at any level, hes presided over the worst attack in modern NRL history, hes only been an assistant for a couple of years. What exactly makes him a good candidate for an NRL head coaching role? The players like him? pffft

I have this sinking feeling hes the most low cost option and/or hes an Isaac Moses client and its a leverage play to get out of having to pay AOB his full contract payout

Welcome to the party. What took you so long?
And never underestimate Wests ability to make a hire based on what's cheapest, not what's best. If they can pay $350k for a coach instead of $550k, 750k, even $355k, they're taking that option.

 

[perverse]

Not sure it was any more believable or authentic than his usual post game ones. Don't deny that he tried very hard but his words have always felt more like hot air. To his credit from other reports it does sound like he genuinely fell on his own sword which I appreciate.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and put it behind us. The highlight is that we can at least expect something different moving forward. Hopefully it's an upward trend rather than downward.

 

[Apey]

I don't want Green but its still a better option than sticking true with AOB would have been. I have likely misguided faith that if we're willing to part (although AOB being the driver is in conflict with this) with an on-paper fairly successful coach like AOB that it won't be as difficult to move on someone who gets worse results. And if the opposite happens and he gets better results, well, that's what we want right?

More than anything I'm keen to see what our attack will be like next year. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't already more enthusiastic about next year with AOB gone. The unknown is more intriguing to me than same old rubbish. I'm sure it wont take long next year to be depressed by this team again though.

 

[Woody90]

I don't want Green but its still a better option than sticking true with AOB would have been. I have likely misguided faith that if we're willing to part (although AOB being the driver is in conflict with this) with an on-paper fairly successful coach like AOB that it won't be as difficult to move on someone who gets worse results. And if the opposite happens and he gets better results, well, that's what we want right?

More than anything I'm keen to see what our attack will be like next year. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't already more enthusiastic about next year with AOB gone. The unknown is more intriguing to me than same old rubbish. I'm sure it wont take long next year to be depressed by this team again though.

AOB’s gone though. We want to pick the right option now, not just pick anyone because there’s a good chance they’d be better than AOB. I don’t like the idea of just giving Green a run and seeing how he goes with the idea of then sacking him. We’ve got a lot of young players at the club and they don’t deserve to have their development messed with because we have a coach that doesn’t know what he’s doing.

 

[Woody90]

Everyone inside the 4 walls has wanted Greeny for a long time

And this is why we’re the dumbest club in the game.

 

[slotmachine]

I love how confident people are that someone they've never met or seen coaching is a bad coach.
Green could be the next Bellamy for all we know.

 

[Allstar Knights]

Yeah. While Green isn't my preferred option, I would still have an open mind if he's the one chosen. Just as long as the club goes through a proper process beforehand.

 

[The Axe of Druss]

I love how confident people are that someone they've never met or seen coaching is a bad coach.
Green could be the next Bellamy for all we know.

lol really?

He MAY be a good coach but he hasnt even been a head coach at ANY level yet. Hell, he hasnt even been an assistant for long and its only been at Newcastle under the very coach he'd be taking over for. How is anyone supposed to have confidence in him taking over when there is no evidence he would be good, at all?

 

[slotmachine]

There's no evidence for nobodies shooting the shit on a forum, there's plenty for the people who see him working every day. I'm not arrogant enough to think I know more than them, but unfortunately the world is full of people who are.

 

[perverse]

There's no evidence for nobodies shooting the shit on a forum, there's plenty for the people who see him working every day. I'm not arrogant enough to think I know more than them, but unfortunately the world is full of people who are.

I know more than them, what do ya need to know?

 

[Woody90]

I love how confident people are that someone they've never met or seen coaching is a bad coach.
Green could be the next Bellamy for all we know.

It’s impossible to predict how any coach will do, but when it’s such an important decision you want to at least review the evidence of what we do have.

What we do know about Green which is objective fact:
- He’s still very inexperienced even as an assistant. He’s never had experience managing his own team at any level, and every rookie coach has said that aspect was incredibly challenging.
- His current coaching role is in charge of our attack which has broken literal records for being bad. I know there are conspiracy theories that it’s not his fault as AOB is a control freak, but he’s at least partially responsible for it. Now I’m not so worried about the actual specifics of attacking structures, etc. as if he were head coach we’d get a new attack coach, but for the attack to be that bad, it tells me that there’s at least some breakdown in his ability to communicate information to the players. People have said he’s very smart with a good footy brain, but that doesn’t go far if you can’t get the players executing your ideas.

On the other hand apparently he’s favourite because he has a good relationship with the players and knows all the players in the pathways. How do we know that another coach wouldn’t develop just as good of a relationship with the players? What are they comparing him to exactly? AOB and McDermott are both known as being hard task masters, so of course the players are going to like Green in comparison. Nathan Brown also knew the club from top to bottom and every junior player, didn’t mean he was a good coach.