SACK SHAYNE HAYNE! CONTROVERSY ABOUND!

[pepe]

thankgod the sharks were playing a mediocre side like the eels,it would have been 3digits if the storm were playing them,only 7 days prior the eels lost by 50 to melb,i'll let you do the calculations.











even worse if they ran into the dogs,we lost by 50 to them :?

pepe

 

[Kasper]

There is no way Peachey should of been sent off. IMO Backchat does not warrant a send off he only deserved ten minutes. Also I have seen worse tackles than the one last night where players have only been put on report.

 

[El Diablo]

There is no way Peachey should of been sent off. IMO Backchat does not warrant a send off he only deserved ten minutes. Also I have seen worse tackles than the one last night where players have only been put on report.

If he called the referee a f**king cheat then he must be sent.

 

[Anonymous]

He also refused to return when called. You can't win over the ref by ignoring him.

 

[Kiwi]

Sounds to me like Peachey got what he deserved

 

[half]

shayne hayne's problems were lack of control in the first half and lack of follow through with his stance in the second half

but let's make no mistake about it, that's no excuse for the sharks players to act the way they did. thankfully the only player the sharks seemed to have injured was crouch, but it could've been much more the way the sharks were waving their arms around everywhere

as for sullivan's attempt at field goal, i thought it was smart. sure 1 point doesn't mean much, but as long as the sharks had the ball, the eels couldn't score

 

[Anonymous]

as for sullivan's attempt at field goal, i thought it was smart. sure 1 point doesn't mean much, but as long as the sharks had the ball, the eels couldn't score

Didn't Gary Freeman say the same thing?

 

[Alan Shore]

as for sullivan's attempt at field goal, i thought it was smart. sure 1 point doesn't mean much, but as long as the sharks had the ball, the eels couldn't score

Didn't Gary Freeman say the same thing?

Think so. We would have got the ball back, and it was next to impossible for us to score without Peachey on the field.

And some interesting quotes relevant to the whole drama.

Section 16 (7): The players are under the control of the referee from the time they enter the playing area until they leave it.

Section 16 (9): The referee judges on matters of fact and shall not subsequently alter those judgments.

In other words, Hayne can't change his mind and had no control over Peach once he left the field.

 

[Alan Shore]

as for sullivan's attempt at field goal, i thought it was smart. sure 1 point doesn't mean much, but as long as the sharks had the ball, the eels couldn't score

Didn't Gary Freeman say the same thing?

Think so. We would have got the ball back, and it was next to impossible for us to score without Peachey on the field.

And some interesting quotes relevant to the whole drama.

Section 16 (7): The players are under the control of the referee from the time they enter the playing area until they leave it.

Section 16 (9): The referee judges on matters of fact and shall not subsequently alter those judgments.

In other words, Hayne can't change his mind and had no control over Peach once he left the field.

 

[El Diablo]

Section 16 (7): The players are under the control of the referee from the time they enter the playing area until they leave it.

Section 16 (9): The referee judges on matters of fact and shall not subsequently alter those judgments.

In other words, Hayne can't change his mind and had no control over Peach once he left the field.

What a load of crap. Are you trying to tell me that once a player has been binned he can virtually do anything he likes and won't get sent off because the Ref can't change his mind?? The rules don't say that there. Peachey was sent for a second offence. If people were to interpret the rules the way you have then players couldn't be marched 10 metres for a second offence.

Also, Peachey was on the bloody field when Hayne called him back, not that it matters. If I went by your poor reading of rules a player could king hit another player when he's been dragged into touch and not get penalised.

Peachey and the thug Sharks were lucky more weren't sent.

 

[Anonymous]

Tamazoid.. Peachey was just pissed off because his team was getting clobbered. He over-stepped the mark by ignoring the ref.. pretty simple really.
As for Hayne having no control over Peachey once he left the field.. well that's crap. By that logic a player can abuse a referee in the tunnel... besides, Peachey was still on the field when Hayne was calling him back.

 

[half]

Didn't Gary Freeman say the same thing?

oh crap

i now take back everything i said. damn you, gary

 

[Anonymous]

Didn't Gary Freeman say the same thing?

oh crap

i now take back everything i said. damn you, gary

LOL.... btw, love the avatar. :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Should the Sharks be fined?
If the League is to be consistent, Ando and the Sharks should be fine for bringing game into disrepute.

Today, Ando has been quoted as saying the game was "a farce."

That should be enough to earn $10K but there's more...

Sharks' centre Phil Bailey describe Hayne as "losing control of the whole game".

"He (Hayne) wouldn't have a bar of anyone, wouldn't speak to anyone," said Bailey.

"In 30 years I haven't seen anything like it," said Anderson.

"I sent him (Peachey) out to register a complaint about the refereeing in the first half ... the diving in the tackles ...and the ref took exception to that. "

Do these guys need to be reminded of the scoreline??? 74-4

Not only did they drop their bundle during the match but they refuse to accept that they were beaten all over the park on the night.

Hayne was far from perfect but there is no way he should become the fall guy for the Sharks and their pathetic season on the field.

 

[Misty Bee]

I thinkPeachey's send off was justified. It was identical to Harrigan sending Tallis off in Origin a few years back. Remember Peachey was alsoheavily involved in a brawl before hand - quite simply he didn't have a lid on his emotions.

Peachey is not a dirty player. However, his conduct last night in those two incodences was poor (regardless of wether Para's aprt in the brawl was poor or not). The fact that a head high resulted in another send off was charqcteristic of a team that had lost all discipline.

Trouble is, with 2 send offs and a sin bin, Shayne Hyne was between a rock and a hard place. Cronulla had no intention of playing by the rules, but has Hyne sent off more players, imagine the press today! Imagine people going off at a nine, or even 8 man team,and a possible 20+ to 5 penalty count.

My point is that Cronulla must be fined for such an undisciplined display by their whole team. Send off's are meant to remove a single player who cannot abide by the rules. Cronulla could have had many more sent off. Quite simply - they refused to abide by the dictations of the referee.

So why fine them? Well, I can remember a Wests Tigers game at Campbelltown where John Hopoate was subsequently suspended for for an alleged 18 misdemeanours on the field, because it ws not in the spirit of the game. Cronulla didn't play in the spirit of the game. They should be fined heavily.

 

[eloquentEEL]

A lot of people seem very quick to jump in and attack the refereeing performance in the match. While the refereeing was not perfect, it was an extremely difficult match to referee, and Hayne did an okay job with what he was given.

Now let's have a look where I believe the real blame should lie for Cronulla's pathetic performance:

Peachey - as one of the Sharks most experienced players and a player who has captained the side in quite a few matches previously, he should have known better than to get into fisty cuffs and later abuse the referee with foul language (spare me the "he got sent off for waving his hands" crap) which he knew the NRL was cracking down on. Peachey should take 100% of the blame for leaving his team a man short and without a captain. Peachey should have known better than to put his team in a position where such a youthful side (including a sprinkling of schoolboys), would have to look after themselves for almost half the match.

Anderson - the lack of depth in experience became very evident last night with no Kimmorley and no Peachey. And how did the Sharks come into this position? How did this lack of depth become exposed so easily? Think back to a little earlier in the season when coach Anderson decided that he needed to stamp his authority on the Sharks and have a changing of the guard. Was is not Anderson that got rid of Treister and Graham, two of the Sharks most experienced players? Was is not Anderson that left the Sharks in a position where Phil Bailey had to end up captaining such a young side, leaving them to be massacred on the field? Imagine if Graham and Treister were on hand last night... they certainly wouldn't have won the game for the Sharks, but at least the Sharks could have attempted to hold their heads up rather than walking off the field in disgrace.

Would the real culprits please stand up.

 

[El Diablo]

Anderson - the lack of depth in experience became very evident last night with no Kimmorley and no Peachey. And how did the Sharks come into this position? How did this lack of depth become exposed so easily? Think back to a little earlier in the season when coach Anderson decided that he needed to stamp his authority on the Sharks and have a changing of the guard. Was is not Anderson that got rid of Treister and Graham, two of the Sharks most experienced players? Was is not Anderson that left the Sharks in a position where Phil Bailey had to end up captaining such a young side, leaving them to be massacred on the field? Imagine if Graham and Treister were on hand last night... they certainly wouldn't have won the game for the Sharks, but at least the Sharks could have attempted to hold their heads up rather than walking off the field in disgrace.

Would the real culprits please stand up.

C'mon man, Ando is just establishing a "winning culture" :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[slippery eel]

Ive always hated hayne.... his refereeing has always left me totally baffeld. As for the Sharks player being sent off for the high tackle that was a bit over the top. He should of been placed on report and left at that. As for Peachey he has no excuse, to abuse the ref like that.... he deserved to be sent. A captain needs to set an example.

 

[oz]

What is it with the media & fans these days ???

How on earth could people in their right mind think that Peachey was sent from the field for "waving his hands" as claimed by numerous sharks fans & that goose Frilingos.

Sure Haynes performance in the scond half was ordinary but Peachey deserved to be sent off. You dont abuse a ref & call him a cheat & expect to stay on the field.

Nuttleys sin-binning was the correct call, as was the sending off of Newton but Hayne shouldve shown consistency & followed the same path with the Parramatta penalties.

 

[Bomber]

I realise a lot has been said already, but here's the viewpoint of a ref.

Refereeing is a tough business. As a lot of people know, we have the power to alter the course of history, as it were. Not having the pleasure of refereeing in the NRL, I would nevertheless consider junior league refereeing much tougher because, although there isn't the pressure involved, you aren't just refereeing a game involving 26 players, but also their parents and family, all of whom think their little Timmy is being hard done by on the field by one prick - you.

I absolutely love to referee at the 'roots' level, and will do so until the tuckshop ladies abolish the free Coke after a game. But seriously, if you can't walk the tight-rope of consistency and balance, you're stuffed from the start.

At the junior club where I usually ref, there's a little sign on the door:

1. Be consistent
2. Get it right

Perhaps the most controversal decision I had to make was to send two local players to the sin-bin......after their team had scored a try! But if players want to go around calling their opponents and touch-judges 'effing cees', they're gone in my view.

You have to take a stand at the start and be consistent. Even if you're consistenly letting the teams creep up on the ten metres, or turning a blind eye to the 'effs' and 'cees', you *should* have no problems.

Shayne Hayne's problem was that he made a stand (by sending Peachey et.al), then backed down (by letting Williams stay on, and letting the ten generate into a farce). I don't think we will have seen the last of him, god knows Billy boy can't ref forever, but he needs to be consistenly consistent......

Anyway, that's the confused ramblings of a pie-eating barefoot ref.