SACK SHAYNE HAYNE! CONTROVERSY ABOUND!

[dannyboy]

Yes..."what's a f**king dominant tackle then".....the goose of a ref wouldn't respond when asked more politley.

Binned for waving his hands??? what's next? being binned for have too many hairs in your nose - it offends me? Your head wobbles too much when you run - you must be poking fun? Get a haircut ya long haired lout - I'll send you to the sheds early so that you can beat the crowds.

 

[innsaneink]

I think Andrew Voss says perfectly what I think about the whole situation

I feel it necessary to put Hayne's performance in context. I don't think it was any worse than that of the Sharks.

Once the anger at the referee subsides Cronulla should feel downright embarrassed at the way they handled things on Saturday night. It certainly wasn't the referee's fault that rookies Dale Newton and Rhys Williams went 'head hunting'. Where were the more experienced players when these young blokes needed a little cooling down?

It is my opinion that the Sharks treated the referee in the second half with total contempt. They treated the Eels with contempt and probably worst of all they treated their own fans with contempt. To attempt a field goal with the side 50 points down is up there with the most unprofessional acts I've seen performed in a first grade match by so called professional footballers.

Sharks fans who attended the game should write to the club requesting their money be refunded. I've heard the word "culture" used many times in what the Sharks are trying to achieve rebuilding at the moment. Let me say, I have absolutely no idea what sort of culture Saturday night's performance is an example of.

This guy is a hell of a lot smarter than most people give him credit for. He goes on to give one mighty serve to Jim Hall as well, something else I can't help but agree on. Andrew Voss I take my hat off to you!

Sure..i agree..even blind freddy could see the sharks treated shayne hayne with contempt. I ask myself why did it get that way?Was it the
send offs? partially...but the cronulla players treated him with no
respect because HE LET THEM DO IT. To continually allow the sharks
players to be offside so blatantly proves the refereee contibuted to
this debacle.
I'm not defending the sharks players at all....its not really that surprising
to see players carrying on the way they did.
The most worrying thing out of all of this is the way the "official in charge" allowed the whole thing to occur in the first place

 

[Kiwi]

I think Andrew Voss says perfectly what I think about the whole situation

I feel it necessary to put Hayne's performance in context. I don't think it was any worse than that of the Sharks.

Once the anger at the referee subsides Cronulla should feel downright embarrassed at the way they handled things on Saturday night. It certainly wasn't the referee's fault that rookies Dale Newton and Rhys Williams went 'head hunting'. Where were the more experienced players when these young blokes needed a little cooling down?

It is my opinion that the Sharks treated the referee in the second half with total contempt. They treated the Eels with contempt and probably worst of all they treated their own fans with contempt. To attempt a field goal with the side 50 points down is up there with the most unprofessional acts I've seen performed in a first grade match by so called professional footballers.

Sharks fans who attended the game should write to the club requesting their money be refunded. I've heard the word "culture" used many times in what the Sharks are trying to achieve rebuilding at the moment. Let me say, I have absolutely no idea what sort of culture Saturday night's performance is an example of.

This guy is a hell of a lot smarter than most people give him credit for. He goes on to give one mighty serve to Jim Hall as well, something else I can't help but agree on. Andrew Voss I take my hat off to you!

Sure..i agree..even blind freddy could see the sharks treated shayne hayne with contempt. I ask myself why did it get that way?Was it the
send offs? partially...but the cronulla players treated him with no
respect because HE LET THEM DO IT. To continually allow the sharks
players to be offside so blatantly proves the refereee contibuted to
this debacle.
I'm not defending the sharks players at all....its not really that surprising
to see players carrying on the way they did.
The most worrying thing out of all of this is the way the "official in charge" allowed the whole thing to occur in the first place

The thing is if he had penalised the Sharks more and as much as they deserved they would have conceeded 30 penalties easy and had a few more binned and sent. The score line would have been 104 - 4 and chances are the Sharks would have walked off the field in protest.

And the focus then would have been 100% on the ref. Right now only the sharks fans are stupid anough to blame the ref for their loss, very few non-sharks fans agree with them.

 

[ali]

Andrew Voss is spot on:

"It is my opinion that the Sharks treated the referee in the second half with total contempt. They treated the Eels with contempt and probably worst of all they treated their own fans with contempt. To attempt a field goal with the side 50 points down is up there with the most unprofessional acts I've seen performed in a first grade match by so called professional footballers.

Sharks fans who attended the game should write to the club requesting their money be refunded. "

I was there, and I must have had similar feelings to the players. I called for a field goal when the ball was passed to Sullivan. We were heading for a loss well before the drama started, possibly because of Hayne's interpretations around the ruck, if you can believe Ando. All the sending offs did was turn an inevitable loss into a flogging. And if we are going to lose, why not make it entertaining. As it started to unfold I was furious, but then quickly found it highly amusing. From what I read, it sounds like Anderson went through a similar span of emotions. I certainly don't want a refund, and if I was going to ask for one, I would be writing to Shayne Hayne, not the Cronulla club. I think Andrew Voss is a great analyst, for once I am going ot have to disagree with him.

By the way, in the UK, it is very common for a side getting flogged to pot over a field goal. Just have a look at all the Challenge Cup scores in the early rounds. As someone else pointed out, it wasn't a bad tactic in the situation, as if it had gone over, we would have almost certainly got the ball back from the kickoff.

There a few Cronulla fans who believe our team lost the plot, but I would say the majority aren't too concerned with how our players reacted in trying circumstances. At the game a few of us even sang "Up Up Cronulla" when it was all over.

 

[theicemandanno]

Voss is an idiot.

I do not consider Sullivan's attempt at a field goal as unprofessional as I feel it was the right play. Parra were scoring with every touch of the ball, and they had 1 player in the bin to come back to the field. The field goal would have wasted time, and more importantly Cronulla would have received the ball back from the kickoff.

However his comments regarding the attitude of the Sharks were spot on. They were totally unprofessional during the final 30 minutes of the game. Did Parra act as such towards Harrigan when they had 3 players in the Sin Bin against the Knights? NO. If Parra ever carried on the way the Sharks did in the final 30 minutes of the game, and totally played outside of the spirit of the game, I do not think I could continue supporting them.


What was unprofessional was the conduct of makeshift captain Phil Bailey. This guy is a total tool, he was lucky to have been back 3 metres from the tackle let alone ten. His total disdain for the referee transpired to the rest of the team.

Sure, players do get peeved with referees. But that cannot explain the utter unprofesionalism that transpired Saturday. ANDERSON IS GOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNN

 

[Misty Bee]

While I might not agree with Voss' assertion that the FG atempt was in contempt of Parramatta, it is rediculous to suggest that it was a wise move. Utterly. What's the difference between a try when you are losing by 60?

But I must say this: I can remember the first game of football I ever saw. It was a telecast on 7's Big League, Canterbury v Wests, when Wests were fined for bringing on Mick Lubinskas as an unregistered player. That was 1974. Since then, I have never seen a side trat a referee, their fans and the game,with such utter contempt as Cronulla did. They showed no intention whatsoever of adhereing to the rules of the game. Short of abandoning the game, what could the referee do? There is already a rediculous culture in league that suggests if a penalty count is lopsided, then the ref was biased against one team.

As a Parramatta supporter I am utterly filthy on the fact that a club was so happy to use our players heads as some sort of target for which to release their frustrations.The blatant offside - 3 m is not just a tired forward not getting back the 10 in time - put our players at risk.

Cronulla are a farce of a club. No premierships in almost 4 decades. Propped up by Super League. Unable to compete financially, and with a terrible attitude. Board problems withplayers and coach. All maniftested in a pathetic display that was poor that no one involved in the game, not referee Hyne, not Jamie Lyon who scored a club record 5 tries, not the Parramatta club who scored the biggest win in 70 years, overcame the black mark left by them. They are a disgrace!

 

[Parraren]

While I might not agree with Voss' assertion that the FG atempt was in contempt of Parramatta, it is rediculous to suggest that it was a wise move. Utterly. What's the difference between a try when you are losing by 60?

But I must say this: I can remember the first game of football I ever saw. It was a telecast on 7's Big League, Canterbury v Wests, when Wests were fined for bringing on Mick Lubinskas as an unregistered player. That was 1974. Since then, I have never seen a side trat a referee, their fans and the game,with such utter contempt as Cronulla did. They showed no intention whatsoever of adhereing to the rules of the game. Short of abandoning the game, what could the referee do? There is already a rediculous culture in league that suggests if a penalty count is lopsided, then the ref was biased against one team.

As a Parramatta supporter I am utterly filthy on the fact that a club was so happy to use our players heads as some sort of target for which to release their frustrations.The blatant offside - 3 m is not just a tired forward not getting back the 10 in time - put our players at risk.

Cronulla are a farce of a club. No premierships in almost 4 decades. Propped up by Super League. Unable to compete financially, and with a terrible attitude. Board problems withplayers and coach. All maniftested in a pathetic display that was poor that no one involved in the game, not referee Hyne, not Jamie Lyon who scored a club record 5 tries, not the Parramatta club who scored the biggest win in 70 years, overcame the black mark left by them. They are a disgrace!

Here, Here!

I'm just sick of all this pathetic whinging that the Cronulla club & fans are coming up with, it's a joke. Like I said, they should take a closer look at their own performance, which was laughable & at times disgusting, before getting on their high horse and bashing the ref.

 

[Alan Shore]

Cronulla are a farce of a club. No premierships in almost 4 decades. Propped up by Super League. Unable to compete financially, and with a terrible attitude. Board problems withplayers and coach. All maniftested in a pathetic display that was poor that no one involved in the game, not referee Hyne, not Jamie Lyon who scored a club record 5 tries, not the Parramatta club who scored the biggest win in 70 years, overcame the black mark left by them. They are a disgrace!

Queen Idiocy has arrived! As a co-leader of the ARL cronie/Anti-Shark brigade, your opinions border on irrelevance.

The Eels record is only two or so years better than Cronulla's, so you have nothing to crow about, hyporcite. Board problems that have been solved with little infighting. A club that is making a profit each year for the past four-five years, yet your own Leagues Club is making losses big time.

 

[Alan Shore]

While I might not agree with Voss' assertion that the FG atempt was in contempt of Parramatta, it is rediculous to suggest that it was a wise move. Utterly. What's the difference between a try when you are losing by 60?

But I must say this: I can remember the first game of football I ever saw. It was a telecast on 7's Big League, Canterbury v Wests, when Wests were fined for bringing on Mick Lubinskas as an unregistered player. That was 1974. Since then, I have never seen a side trat a referee, their fans and the game,with such utter contempt as Cronulla did. They showed no intention whatsoever of adhereing to the rules of the game. Short of abandoning the game, what could the referee do? There is already a rediculous culture in league that suggests if a penalty count is lopsided, then the ref was biased against one team.

As a Parramatta supporter I am utterly filthy on the fact that a club was so happy to use our players heads as some sort of target for which to release their frustrations.The blatant offside - 3 m is not just a tired forward not getting back the 10 in time - put our players at risk.

Cronulla are a farce of a club. No premierships in almost 4 decades. Propped up by Super League. Unable to compete financially, and with a terrible attitude. Board problems withplayers and coach. All maniftested in a pathetic display that was poor that no one involved in the game, not referee Hyne, not Jamie Lyon who scored a club record 5 tries, not the Parramatta club who scored the biggest win in 70 years, overcame the black mark left by them. They are a disgrace!

Here, Here!

I'm just sick of all this pathetic whinging that the Cronulla club & fans are coming up with, it's a joke. Like I said, they should take a closer look at their own performance, which was laughable & at times disgusting, before getting on their high horse and bashing the ref.

When was the last time you saw an optometrist? A trip to OPSM would be of great benefit to you! Or did you just forget your spectacles when watching the game?

So we in all likelihood would have lost. So what? Not for SEVENTY FARGING POINTS for God's sake. At the MOST thirty, and that's being generous. I'm not whinging. It's simply pure fact. Hayne is an incompetent, blind, disrespectful, useless, consistently inconsistent and a poor communicator all in one who would be bashed by the parents in an U/7s game.

The fact is, if YOU actually LOOKED, you would, even with your intelligence level, see that things only deteriorated into the "disgusting" performance you talked of, AFTER the referee had the brain explosion and sent Peachey off.

 

[El Diablo]

While I might not agree with Voss' assertion that the FG atempt was in contempt of Parramatta, it is rediculous to suggest that it was a wise move. Utterly. What's the difference between a try when you are losing by 60?

But I must say this: I can remember the first game of football I ever saw. It was a telecast on 7's Big League, Canterbury v Wests, when Wests were fined for bringing on Mick Lubinskas as an unregistered player. That was 1974. Since then, I have never seen a side trat a referee, their fans and the game,with such utter contempt as Cronulla did. They showed no intention whatsoever of adhereing to the rules of the game. Short of abandoning the game, what could the referee do? There is already a rediculous culture in league that suggests if a penalty count is lopsided, then the ref was biased against one team.

As a Parramatta supporter I am utterly filthy on the fact that a club was so happy to use our players heads as some sort of target for which to release their frustrations.The blatant offside - 3 m is not just a tired forward not getting back the 10 in time - put our players at risk.

Cronulla are a farce of a club. No premierships in almost 4 decades. Propped up by Super League. Unable to compete financially, and with a terrible attitude. Board problems withplayers and coach. All maniftested in a pathetic display that was poor that no one involved in the game, not referee Hyne, not Jamie Lyon who scored a club record 5 tries, not the Parramatta club who scored the biggest win in 70 years, overcame the black mark left by them. They are a disgrace!

Here, Here!

I'm just sick of all this pathetic whinging that the Cronulla club & fans are coming up with, it's a joke. Like I said, they should take a closer look at their own performance, which was laughable & at times disgusting, before getting on their high horse and bashing the ref.

When was the last time you saw an optometrist? A trip to OPSM would be of great benefit to you! Or did you just forget your spectacles when watching the game?

So we in all likelihood would have lost. So what? Not for SEVENTY FARGING POINTS for God's sake. At the MOST thirty, and that's being generous.

That's being generous :lol:

You were getting your arse kicked by 20 points after 40 mnutes with a penalty count of only 6-4 against you and 13 on 13.

Hayne saved you the embarassment of getting whooped by 50 with a full team.

BTW, was it Hayne who told the thugs to go headhunting???

Must of been. Everything else is his fault :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

Its been a few days and maybe it's time to give tama a bit of slack. His side has just been beaten by the greatest margin since 1935. Irrational replies have been par for the course from Sharks supporters this week.
Lets remember this day and show compassion for years to come.
:-({|=

 

[Misty Bee]

At most thirty? So where would the composure had come from to suddelny make Cronulla improve by 26 points in the second half? So, without Peachey and the other 2 sendoffs, you would have held Parra to, say, only 1 try? How utterly rediculous!!!!

And to blame the SEND OFF for Cronulla's disgraceful effort on the second half? LOL- that's beyond belief to assert that! Here you have Dave Peachey, arguably one of the top 5 players in your clubs history. A gentleman and a clean player of the highest standing. He co-instigates an all in brawl, argues with a ref, gets sin binned, turns around and gives him a gob full, then refuses to come back when the ref called him. And you think the ref caused it?

Quite simply, for a player of Peachey's character to lose it meant that Cronulla had already lost it, because Parra were already flogging them. Head highs abounded after that. Ref's fault for being abused and then ignored? Refs fault for a spate of head highs? Try Cronulla's fault for not playing the game in the right spirit!

BTW, Parra has 4 times more to crow about than Cronulla. Actually, throw in the Wills Cup, the Panasonic Cup, 2 7's tournaments and about 12 Club Championships, and that makes about 21 things to crow about that you have failed to achieve.

And I haven't even gone to reserves and thirds yet!

 

[ali]

I admit we were a little unprofessional towards the end, and the ref should have done something about it. As Bailey pointed out, Williams should have been sent off.

But the problem was Peachey was gone, rightly or wrongly, our next experienced, Beattie was on the bench, and the then Nutley, an experienced player, but only in his 2nd NRL season was in the bin. What were we left with. A 23 year old captain and 9 kids. The 2 high tackle offenders, Newton and Williams have about 4 or 5 first grade games between them, and are 20 and 17 years old respectively. I still don't think Newton's tackle was that bad, and it sounds like my club doesn't either. There was niggle all night in that game, including a high shot or 2 from Steve Crouch. Of course not forgetting Treacy's slide from about 5 metres away aimed straight at a player already held in a tackle. It didn't surprise me that Peachey started throwing punches after this action. And from all my years watching footy, its the first time I've seen him throw a punch.

I'm confident both Newton and Peachey will get their charges down graded tonight, but I think Williams doesn't have a hope.

 

[beast]

I may be mistaken and it would not have made a difference to Peachey but I thought when a ref has sent a player to the sin bin and then decides to send him off for whatever reason then the player is to do his ten minutes and then when he or his replacement returns the ref instructs him he is sent off and cannot return. I am sure I saw it happen some years ago.

And this has certainly been a tetchy couple of months for league and a number of clubs..not good publicity with the Rahs Rahs coming to town..maybe some clubs are nervous and it is starting to show.

 

[eloquentEEL]

I admit we were a little unprofessional towards the end, and the ref should have done something about it. As Bailey pointed out, Williams should have been sent off.

But the problem was Peachey was gone, rightly or wrongly, our next experienced, Beattie was on the bench, and the then Nutley, an experienced player, but only in his 2nd NRL season was in the bin. What were we left with. A 23 year old captain and 9 kids. The 2 high tackle offenders, Newton and Williams have about 4 or 5 first grade games between them, and are 20 and 17 years old respectively. I still don't think Newton's tackle was that bad, and it sounds like my club doesn't either. There was niggle all night in that game, including a high shot or 2 from Steve Crouch. Of course not forgetting Treacy's slide from about 5 metres away aimed straight at a player already held in a tackle. It didn't surprise me that Peachey started throwing punches after this action. And from all my years watching footy, its the first time I've seen him throw a punch.

I'm confident both Newton and Peachey will get their charges down graded tonight, but I think Williams doesn't have a hope.

Um... Beattie is not exactly the best role model, let alone captain, to have. In fact, Sharks are probably lucky that he was on the bench.

And who's fault was it that Cronulla fielded a side where they were left with "a 23 year old captain and 9 kids"? *cough* Anderson *cough* Treister *cough* Graham *cough*

and Peachey could have avoided being binned and could have avoided being sent off if he didn't want to leave such an inexperienced team on the field to fend for themselves.

 

[ali]

Thanks to the crappy "new" Parra stadium, with its stupid advertising signs at both ends, thats actually the first time I've seen the full score board. :lol:

And whats with 10m of hill at each end that can't be used? :?

 

[undertaker]

I remember watching this game at the time, and found the video for it regarding those incidents in the 2nd half which led to Parramatta winning 74-4 (two send offs + sin bin).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy5O-qnfhTY

 

[East Coast Tiger]

That op.

Awesome.

 

[Hutty1986]

Cannot believe OP wasn't skeepe!

 

[wittyfan]

he's insayne!

Lol!