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strider

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Storm, 1.7m fine, guaranteed last ( no points awarded ) and a bunch of *'s in the record books.

and one scapegoat who had already pissed off .... and every other merkin who was involved gets off scott free (oh yeah you never knew, yeah yeah sure ted :roll:)

and all those *'s mean sweet f**k all
 

Chipmunk

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Or it was - once he has played (assuming he is 2nd tier) he is free to play again all year and we needed to have at least one back up half available to us.

If we reached our 2nd tier cap limit and one of the halves gets injured, we would then be able to apply to the NRL for an exemption to play Kelly.
 

Bazal

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Well if you sit in the middle of those two then everyone has a go at you:lol:

Simple question, why can't one just hold management accountable around here without being derided by the mob as being in someone's camp?

When was the last time Parramatta was a united club, in any way? From the board to the players to the fans? Sad fact is our entire club seems to care more about bitching and infighting than being a great club. And that's true to varying extents for the majority of fans (IMO) and under all regimes that I've been around for...
 

emjaycee

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I'd agree if i had half a clue what it means ..... were we over the cap or not - I thought yes

Try and stay with the grown ups here Strides :D :D

The breach notice threatened the loss of points IF we breach again OR IF we don't put improvements to our governance in place. If we breach again they can and will take the points. If we don't breach (which the club seems confident of) but don't make the governance changes they want to see they can attempt to take the 4 points away but legal advice is that they wouldn't be able to.
 

Bazal

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If we reached our 2nd tier cap limit and one of the halves gets injured, we would then be able to apply to the NRL for an exemption to play Kelly.

And they may not grant it. Sef is capable of playing 6, theoretically. As is Taka. The NRL could just as easily tell us to suck it up given the situation. To be honest I'd rather have had Norman and Taka in the halves anyway, though....
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...despite-salary-cap-drama-20150521-gh6rm1.html

Parramatta Eels say they can still afford Kieran Foran despite salary cap drama

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May 21, 2015 - 10:00PM

Chris Barrett
Sports Writer

Parramatta are insistent their salary cap drama will not stand between them acquiring star signings Kieran Foran and Beau Scott next year.

The Eels were on Thursday slapped with a $525,000 fine due to a total of $436,000 in cap breaches and told they will be docked four competition points next season if they do not comply with a demand for an independent governance review of their club and implement recommendations from it by February 29 next year.

The punishment led to questions about the ramifications for their recruitment drive - they are also pursuing disillusioned Cronulla fullback Michael Gordon - but they maintain the sanctions would have "no impact" on the arrivals of Foran and Scott.

"We are salary cap compliant right now in all four caps and we're forecast compliant next year including the contracts of players that we've signed," Eels chief Scott Seward said. "This is all about the past, it's got nothing to do with the future."

Parramatta's newly elected board will meet on Friday. They are said to be unhappy about the linking of governance reforms to the salary cap breaches and have left the breach notices with lawyers.

A host of current and former Eels players have been caught up in the cap mess through no fault of their own but the NRL honed in particularly on Parramatta's actions in fielding Junior Paulo, Taniela Lasalo and David Gower last year.

All three were not in the top-25 players but Parramatta, in such a hole at one point head coach Brad Arthur had only 16 players at his disposal, were elevated into the top grade against NRL warnings of a pending second-tier breach.

The Eels believe the Lasalo case deserves revisiting because of its circumstances. His $60,000 salary was automatically added to their bursting second-tier cap when he featured for four minutes against North Queensland in round eight. He was called in at the last minute when Mitchell Allgood, having suffered concussion the previous round, complained of a headache before kick-off. Parramatta claim that because they were in Townsville they had no other alternative and were looking after Allgood's welfare.

Parramatta's salary cap black hole, revealed by Fairfax Media last July, stemmed largely from having to pay more than $750,000 last year to players who had already left the club. Those eights players were Reni Maitua, Jacob Loko, Daniel Harrison, Jordan Latham, Cheyse Blair, Jake Mullaney, Matt Ryan and Brayden Wiliame..

As well as the cap breaches they were also sanctioned for $32,104 in benefits provided to Eels players by Parramatta Leagues Club, among them the payment for a car the club bought from front-rower Fuifui Moimoi in 2012. Moimoi's 2004 Ford Falcon had a market value of $3800 to $5200 but he was paid $15,000 by the club, who had been looking for a car for welfare manager Jason Irvine.

Last year was the fourth in five years that the Eels had been guilty of cap breaches, a strong factor in the NRL coming down hard on them on Thursday.

NRL chief Dave Smith said Parramatta's crime was incompetence over several years not systematic rorting despite the fact they had flouted warnings from head office.

"I don't think this is about cheating, I think this is about mis-management," Smith said. "The design of the penalty is to help them fix the club...not to hit them with a big stick. If the club does the right thing and takes the independent recommendations, applies the changes then they won't lose four competition points. If they don't they will."

The Eels self-reported their pending cap nightmare soon after the change of management that followed the election of Steve Sharp's board in 2013.

Such was their desperation to field a team last year they were permitted to almost double the $440,000 second-tier cap allowance, given the green light to field players such as Semi Radradra - before his contract upgrade last June - from outside their top 25. Their official second-tier breach is $233,036 so as a result they effectively exceeded the second-tier cap by more than $600,000.

In another symptom of the shoddy rostering inherited by Arthur they at one point had six players in their top 25 who were also eligible for the under-20s competition, meaning they had less top-line players to pick from and had to lean on thier second-tier earlier than usual.

Further breaches in the junior ranks were found via allowances of $15,000 paid to NYC players without enforcing the requirement that they have to study to receive that full payment.
 

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When was the last time Parramatta was a united club, in any way? From the board to the players to the fans? Sad fact is our entire club seems to care more about bitching and infighting than being a great club. And that's true to varying extents for the majority of fans (IMO) and under all regimes that I've been around for...
Agree with all points unfortunately. Serious question, do you think it can ever change?
 

emjaycee

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If we reached our 2nd tier cap limit and one of the halves gets injured, we would then be able to apply to the NRL for an exemption to play Kelly.

And they could say no because we have other options, such as Joseph Paulo to pick from.

Little known fact, the 2014 side named each week was NOT picked without involvement from League Headquarters.
 

strider

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you watch - we will object to half of it and they will accept that ..... so we'll end up with just a 200K NRL breech - no worse than what happens every year - plus party pie, cocktail frankfurts and mini sausage roll breeches for NYC kiddies ..... and the f**king telegraph will write a 3 line sub-story about it buried in page 52
 

strider

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And they could say no because we have other options, such as Joseph Paulo to pick from.

Little known fact, the 2014 side named each week was NOT picked without involvement from League Headquarters.

ohhh .... so our copy n paste every tuesday is dave smith's fault - merkin :fist:
 

Avenger

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Ricky Stuart, the myth, the f**kwit, the self rightous piece of garbage that speaks in the first person f**ked us a beauty.
 

emjaycee

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And to think some people on here wonder why the CEO is on the recruitment and retention committee.
This is page 21 of your answer.
 

Bazal

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Agree with all points unfortunately. Serious question, do you think it can ever change?

I think this whole episode can be the catalyst for it to change, honestly. I think this is the bottom of the barrel, this is the darkest hour despite being based on a past indiscretion. We now have to take part in an independent review of the club and its governance. That's actually a huge thing and something no individual clique would ever have agreed to in isolation. As someone else said, any independent review is damn near guaranteed to recommend independent representation on the board, for starters, which negates any of the cliques having control of the club. So yeah, I think it can change and I think it will change. And people call me all sorts of amusing names for it, but I think things look better on the field for next year as well. Improved governance and an improved squad can only be good.
 

emjaycee

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From the little I know,the cap was in. Mega mess from deals done prior to the current admin, players were released and promised ongoing payments, until Seward was appointed there was a rumour that the 2 previous coaches gave cap admin to an office girl. They only were concerned with the next season, and players( like Lomo) were therefore on massive back ended deals to ensure the near term was OK
Sounds a bit like Des at the Beagles
. I think the current admin have tried to make us aware that there were issues that needed time to resolve. Doubt we need to go off like headless chooks, this was in s sense what was predicted

Not true Delboy.
The "office girl" was a part-time payroll clerk.
 
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