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eel01s

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Even better, have a top 35 with one cap. That way you can cover for injuries, the coach can select who he wants and there is a proper minimum salary for fringe players, with the club able to have some depth.

No player can be picked from outside the top 35. Trades can happen until June 30 (like now) it just means your top 35 changes, but the cap limit cannot.
 

Haynzy

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I don't see why they don't make players' salaries public.
Would stop conjecture by nuffies like us and would make the salary cap easier to police.
 

Bigfella

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It would also help us judge performance of the administration.

We would know when the cap was being f**ked up or not, and whether particular signings were positive or not.

Surely our cap would not have been f**ked up as much if these were all transparent? People would have questioned decisions being taken bad in 2012 or whenever the problems started - probably a long time further.
 
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I don't see why they don't make players' salaries public.
Would stop conjecture by nuffies like us and would make the salary cap easier to police.

Yes it would (if they disclosed all payments, and fringe benefits etc), but unless the players or their reps agree to this, they cannot publish the salaries.
 
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Just have the nrl refuse to register any contracts for players who don't agree.

Hmmmm....that will last about 30 seconds in court.

They are not public employees....they have to agree to the publication of their earnings, and cannot be forced to do so by refusing them the right to earn at the only serious employment option. So they need to get the PA on board before this is possible.
 

Bigfella

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I think there will be a lack of political will to get it done because at present it suits more people to have this all murky and relatively free of scrutiny.

Especially people of the type who have been running our club in years gone by.
 

Poupou Escobar

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It's only murky to the merkins who don't matter. The people who do have a right to know - the NRL and the clubs - know exactly what's going on.
 

forward pass

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I don't see why they don't make players' salaries public.
Would stop conjecture by nuffies like us and would make the salary cap easier to police.

Could you imagine the shitfight within clubs if salaries were published? Winger one will demand to know why winger two earns more and why is that useless prop of ours earning that much. It would be a nightmare.

Same reason companies don't publish salaries of employees - it would open a serious can of whoop ass.
 

Haynzy

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Could you imagine the shitfight within clubs if salaries were published? Winger one will demand to know why winger two earns more and why is that useless prop of ours earning that much. It would be a nightmare.

Same reason companies don't publish salaries of employees - it would open a serious can of whoop ass.

Sure but I reckon that'd happen anyway but on the basis of rumour and innuendo.

My salary details are available for anyone who knows what I do.
I reckon the only reason this stuff is kept quiet is because people are embarrassed about how much they earn.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.news.com.au/national/par...-second-tier-cap/story-e6frfkp9-1227370330140

Parramatta salary cap scandal: Luke Kelly’s dumping linked to second-tier cap

by: CHRISTIAN NICOLUSSI
May 26, 2015 8:00PM

LUKE Kelly’s shock dumping from Parramatta was last night being linked to the club’s bulging second-tier salary cap.

Two weeks after replacing Chris Sandow in the Eels’ No. 7 jumper, Kelly was brushed altogether for Friday night’s grudge match against Penrith.

While coach Brad Arthur has been happy with Kelly’s form — and Kelly himself admitted yesterday he was ready to retain the halfback gig for the remainder of the year — it’s understood the Eels may have gone close to blowing their $460,000 second-tier cap if he plays this weekend.

It’s understood Kelly was given special exemptions to play in the NRL the past fortnight.

As it stands, Sandow and Corey Norman will resume their play-making combination.

Parramatta were slapped with a $525,000 fine last week for breaches between 2010 and midway through 2013.

They were reminded by the NRL if they exceeded the cap again before February 29 next year, they would be docked four competition points for the 2016 season.

Arthur wouldn’t get drawn on any specific team selections last night, but told The Daily Telegraph: “We’ve named a team that is compliant with the salary cap.’’

The Eels have 11 players unavailable for selection, including Peni Terepo, who will miss the rest of the season with a pectoral injury, and Richie Fa’aoso, who is out “indefinitely’’ and will await scan results for a shoulder complaint.

Arthur has already called on second-tier players Kelly, Danny Wicks, John Folau and Bureta Faraimo.

His options have quickly dried up, there’s little wiggle room in the second-tier cap, and it’s not even halfway through the season.

It’s also understood the form of some of Parramatta’s top 25 players has been underwhelming.

Daniel Alvaro is another player on a second-tier contract who will make his debut this week.

However, even though his involvement will count towards the cap, he’s likely to be given the green light by the NRL auditors because of the shocking injury toll to the front-rowers, including Fa’aoso and Terepo, as well as the suspended Darcy Lussick.

Alvaro, 21, was congratulated by his teammates before training yesterday, and goes by the nickname “Polar’’ because of his Ben Hannant-like blond hair.

“He’s a good kid, he won our ‘best trainer’ in the pre-season, which is voted for by the players, and he’s popular within the group,’’ Arthur said.

“He’s a quiet kid, he comes and trains his best, he treats the elder players with respect, and he sets a good example for the younger boys at the club, and that if you work hard, you’ll get your chance. His chance has come a bit earlier than expected, but we do have a few injuries in our front-row.’’

Meanwhile, Parramatta’s rivals Penrith welcome the return of Peter Wallace and Josh Mansour on Friday night, while Api Koroisau has been named 18th man, and in need of giving his troublesome shoulder a rest.

Michael Gordon has been named for Cronulla, despite walking out on the club last week in protest over his blocked mid-season move to the Eels, while Kieran Foran returns for Manly at half-back.
 

natheel

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Surely with a few players out for the season we have a couple players lined up as mid year signings
 

Chipmunk

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So basically we're being forced into choosing a team each week that the coach doesn't really have faith in some of them, but there isn't anything he can do about it, because if he does, he will start 2016 on -4 points.

Oh yeah....things are going great guns
 
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So basically we're being forced into choosing a team each week that the coach doesn't really have faith in some of them, but there isn't anything he can do about it, because if he does, he will start 2016 on -4 points.

Oh yeah....things are going great guns

Yeh, not good. But, if true, we are being forced into picking players the coach doesn't really want to play because we have exhausted (or are close to exhausting) our 2nd tier cap, and you can't flagrantly breach the cap (i.e. by playing additional 2nd tier players when 1st tier players in comparable positions are available for selection) regardless of whether you've got a suspended sentence hanging over your head. The cap dispensations aren't there to cater for the loss of form in a player, or the loss of the coach's faith in a player.
 
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