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Tony Bongo

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While we are at it we can pretend that Michael Gordon didn't get ushered out of Penrith about three years ago when they tried to clean up their cap; isn't third choice at best for the Sharks; hasn't had injury and form issues; and is a hot target sought after by all the other nrl clubs.

I'll just pretend that the sky isn't falling in, when clearly according to you it is.
 

Bigfella

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Ok then Mr Expert, who should we be targeting?
There isn't much to choose from in the way of fullbacks at the moment. Not mid-year, or off contract at the end of the year.

Starting from the moment we knew about Hayne, we should have approached:

Dugan (who was then reportedly unhappy), Brett Morris, RTS Will be a bargain for 800; we should have had a crack at Brett Stewart for the type of Michael Gordon deal.

That's for starters.

If we are banking on French we could go after a short term fullback like snake who could also help French come on.

But French won't be ready for a couple of years at best.

So perhaps someone like a Munster or the Warriors fullback who can then move into the centres or halves.

Nrl sides need top class fullbacks. We are the only side who thinks it isn't necessary.

No other team wants Gordon for next year - and people are happy with him as our first pick?

That's f**king hopeless. That means not even trying to be competitive.

Those stupid posts suggesting I'm saying we need all rep players are brain dead.

We are talking about the most important position on the field. You don't compete without a top no 1.

f**k - we've come last a few times with the best one in the game.

Only pou thought we'd be better without him.
 

Gronk

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Starting from the moment we knew about Hayne, we should have approached:

Dugan (who was then reportedly unhappy), Brett Morris, RTS Will be a bargain for 800; we should have had a crack at Brett Stewart for the type of Michael Gordon deal.

That's for starters.

If we are banking on French we could go after a short term fullback like snake who could also help French come on.

But French won't be ready for a couple of years at best.

So perhaps someone like a Munster or the Warriors fullback who can then move into the centres or halves.

Nrl sides need top class fullbacks. We are the only side who thinks it isn't necessary.

No other team wants Gordon for next year - and people are happy with him as our first pick?

That's f**king hopeless. That means not even trying to be competitive.

Those stupid posts suggesting I'm saying we need all rep players are brain dead.

We are talking about the most important position on the field. You don't compete without a top no 1.

f**k - we've come last a few times with the best one in the game.

Only pou thought we'd be better without him.

So how do you know that we didn't ? How do you know that whilst we were promoting the idea of Hoppa that were not out there trying to snare a top fullback ?
 

Joshuatheeel

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Starting from the moment we knew about Hayne, we should have approached:

Dugan (who was then reportedly unhappy), Brett Morris, RTS Will be a bargain for 800; we should have had a crack at Brett Stewart for the type of Michael Gordon deal.

That's for starters.

If we are banking on French we could go after a short term fullback like snake who could also help French come on.

But French won't be ready for a couple of years at best.

So perhaps someone like a Munster or the Warriors fullback who can then move into the centres or halves.

Nrl sides need top class fullbacks. We are the only side who thinks it isn't necessary.

No other team wants Gordon for next year - and people are happy with him as our first pick?

That's f**king hopeless. That means not even trying to be competitive.

Those stupid posts suggesting I'm saying we need all rep players are brain dead.

We are talking about the most important position on the field. You don't compete without a top no 1.

f**k - we've come last a few times with the best one in the game.

Only pou thought we'd be better without him.

Dugan / Stewart are both under contract and how do you know we didn't make enquires about them? It was rumoured we did make some enquires about Dugan but we will never know. Do we really want the papers to report every player we enquire about ? If they did we would be complaining about the leaks!!

On RTS he wanted to go back to NZ, so weren't any chance really.

On Munster there were rumours we have made enquires but he is under contract. It was also rumoured we have also made enquires about the young NZ also but he is also under contract - and he is young so we never knew if he could handle fullback

So really the club has done everything you have suggested

The only current fullback off contract is Gordon. While Arthur has stated they are looking at fullback options
 

Bigfella

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If your assumptions are true - then the people whose job it is can't perform.

Get the NRL people installed and let's give ourselves a chance.
 

Joshuatheeel

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If your assumptions are true - then the people whose job it is can't perform.

Get the NRL people installed and let's give ourselves a chance.

Why because we couldn't sign a fullback ? If that is the case the NRL would be running every club
 

Bigfella

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Why because we couldn't sign a fullback ? If that is the case the NRL would be running every club

What planet are you on?

Every other club has a top fullback, and many of them have two or three.

You are completely delusional if you think other sides are in the same boat.

Our targets now are virtually limited to other clubs' second and third stringers.

Leave your head in the sand if you like.
 

Joshuatheeel

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What planet are you on?

Every other club has a top fullback, and many of them have two or three.

You are completely delusional if you think other sides are in the same boat.

Our targets now are virtually limited to other clubs' second and third stringers.

Leave your head in the sand if you like.

Calm down, no need to get aggressive !!

We had a top line fullback that left - the club is now searching for a fullback, what else would you like them to do? You suggested some options, which the club has already looked at. Even Arthur said they are searching for one.

Now you said, the NRL should step if as the club officials couldn't perform. Only an idiot would suggest this as every club is looking for a player to fill a particular spot, we are looking for a fullback, other clubs are looking for a halfback, some want a hooker, some want a strike centre, some want a big prop etc etc etc etc
 
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oldmancraigy

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Starting from the moment we knew about Hayne, we should have approached:

Dugan (who was then reportedly unhappy), Brett Morris, RTS Will be a bargain for 800; we should have had a crack at Brett Stewart for the type of Michael Gordon deal.

That's for starters.

If we are banking on French we could go after a short term fullback like snake who could also help French come on.

But French won't be ready for a couple of years at best.

So perhaps someone like a Munster or the Warriors fullback who can then move into the centres or halves.

Nrl sides need top class fullbacks. We are the only side who thinks it isn't necessary.

No other team wants Gordon for next year - and people are happy with him as our first pick?

That's f**king hopeless. That means not even trying to be competitive.

Those stupid posts suggesting I'm saying we need all rep players are brain dead.

We are talking about the most important position on the field. You don't compete without a top no 1.

f**k - we've come last a few times with the best one in the game.

Only pou thought we'd be better without him.

No disrespect Bigfella, but how do you know they didnt try and get all those guys and more?
Alex Johnston was looked at as well.

Gordon shows us that at least we are still looking to upgrade. Why is this a bad thing?
 

Bigfella

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No disrespect Bigfella, but how do you know they didnt try and get all those guys and more?
Alex Johnston was looked at as well.

Gordon shows us that at least we are still looking to upgrade. Why is this a bad thing?

See my last post (no disrespect taken).

Because if we looked at all these blokes - while other clubs have been signing or resigning top end fullbacks - it suggests we can't get the job done.
 

Gronk

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See my last post (no disrespect taken).

Because if we looked at all these blokes - while other clubs have been signing or resigning top end fullbacks - it suggests we can't get the job done.

Got the job done OK by signing a current SOO backrower and NZ 5/8. Yet not getting a FB makes them incompetent ?
 

T.S Quint

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The roosters just failed to re-sign one of the top young fullbacks in the game.
Maybe the NRL should be running them too.
 

84 Baby

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If your assumptions are true - then the people whose job it is can't perform.

Get the NRL people installed and let's give ourselves a chance.

Wow I didn't know Pricey and Piggy were forum members. Where's Terry Leabeater gone to? Wonder how many celebrities the other site has
 
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I'm here in peace from the Saints forum. If you weren't that aggressive in chasing a fullback (if that's the case) maybe that was because of an expectation that Hayne woul d get the whole NFL thing out of his system pretty quickly and be back by the June deadline. I never expected him to get as far as he has done and I don't think I was the only one who didn't see him getting onto a franchise practice squad. Even now the odds are against him getting an actual contract which would mean he'd be back in the NRL by the start of the 2016 season. Maybe your club's keeping its options open in case that happens?
 
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I'm intrigued to know what reasoning the Club gave to get a second tier cap exemption for Luke Kelly to play.

So many words in that article, quoted by Seward, seem to contradict one another.

This. 1000x this. Stop ignoring the man, and answer him!

Maybe Arfur just went to the NRL and said, "He chipped in our own half, ffs! Who does that??!! C'mooooooon!!"
 
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