SBW: the example for Islander players

[8Ball]

The real reason people are turning on sonny bill is the tall poppy syndrome.

They are simply jealous that SBW is worth 1.5 million a year and is fulfilling his potential.


All this SBW betraying league and being greedy. The man is thick but he aint stupid. 500 grand of 1.5million. FMD.

What part of "honoring your contract" do you not understand?

 

[TITAN1]

Interesting comment attributed to SBW on his re-signing with the Dogs.. "I'm happy to be staying here with the boys and I'm happy to be here with the Club. I want to be a Bulldog for life. The club is just as much apart of me a part of me as I am of the club. I love the Bulldogs"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bill_Williams

 

[SaveTheChildren]

But Nasser, you're saying Canterbury betrayed him... therefore the market in question is only the market that Canterbury can participate in. Otherwise it's not a betrayal, just a bad early choice of career by SBW. He should have tried his hand at being a neurosurgeon, or actuary, or boutique real estate agent working on commission.


Sorry, I still don't get how a player wanting to sign with a club, and agreeing to very generous terms with that club, and signing a contract can count as exploitation?


Sheesh, and you're using the example that one of SBW's "heroes" signs with another club at the end of his contract, as reason to jsutify him hopping a plane to France to sign while under contract, instead of just doing what his teammates (most of whom were also teammates of Willie) did, and turn up to training for tomorrow's game?

Ok then. :crazy:

You see Bart my boy, that is where you are so wrong. Canterbury are not just in the NRL market, they are in an international market - umm, you know like with rugby players and stuff as well. So signing a bloke worth 1.5 million to an NRL contract for 1/3 for 5 years - shameful on Canterbury's behalf.

I have explained extensively in another thread why Canterbury should not have signed the five year deal that SBW wanted.

When all your mates f off for greener pastures and you earning a million bucks a year less because of it - you feel betrayed.

 

[8Ball]

You see Bart my boy, that is where you are so wrong. Canterbury are not just in the NRL market, they are in an international market - umm, you know like with rugby players and stuff as well. So signing a bloke worth 1.5 million to an NRL contract for 1/3 for 5 years - shameful on Canterbury's behalf.

I have explained extensively in another thread why Canterbury should not have signed the five year deal that SBW wanted.

When all your mates f off for greener pastures and you earning a million bucks a year less because of it - you feel betrayed.

Fair dinkum. Must be a union troll.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

Interesting comment attributed to SBW on his re-signing with the Dogs.. "I'm happy to be staying here with the boys and I'm happy to be here with the Club. I want to be a Bulldog for life. The club is just as much apart of me a part of me as I am of the club. I love the Bulldogs"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bill_Williams

Sounds like a regurgitated media release written on his bahalf. He was happy at the time, because he hadn't realised he had been stitched up at this point.

 

[Frailty]

You see Bart my boy, that is where you are so wrong. Canterbury are not just in the NRL market, they are in an international market - umm, you know like with rugby players and stuff as well. So signing a bloke worth 1.5 million to an NRL contract for 1/3 for 5 years - shameful on Canterbury's behalf.

I have explained extensively in another thread why Canterbury should not have signed the five year deal that SBW wanted.

When all your mates f off for greener pastures and you earning a million bucks a year less because of it - you feel betrayed.

Ummm no you feel like a f**king dumbass for negotiating for more years!

... And lol at ALL YOUR MATES.....

 

[bartman]

You see Bart my boy, that is where you are so wrong. Canterbury are not just in the NRL market, they are in an international market - umm, you know like with rugby players and stuff as well. So signing a bloke worth 1.5 million to an NRL contract for 1/3 for 5 years - shameful on Canterbury's behalf.

No. Sonny might be in that market, but as I have explained extensively in this and the other thread, Canterbury can only operate within the market they are in (4mil for 25 players, $500K being the elite salary in the game of RL).

If you are trying to claim a betrayal of SBW by his club, you'd be better of making the point against the whole NRL and it's market. Perhaps you might make a bit of sense then, and come up with some sensible solutions to the situation for the future.

I have explained extensively in another thread why Canterbury should not have signed the five year deal that SBW wanted.

So are you now saying that Sonny betrayed Canterbury? getting them to offer the deal that he wanted? I've lost you...

When all your mates f off for greener pastures and you earning a million bucks a year less because of it - you feel betrayed.

All his mates? You were claiming Willie as the main betrayal, and Willie isn't earning $1mil sunshine.

You're not very good at this are you Nasser? Maybe it's only easy when Danny asks the questions. Do you want to promote Anthony's fight while you're here?;-)

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

I hope all Dogs fans get out to the game tomorrow as a show of support to the rest of the team. Its very important to do that at a time like this. Watch out Dragons, beware the wounded Bulldog.

Strangely and this is going to be a one off but I will be cheering for the Bulldogs tomorrow night.. I would have no matter who they played barring the Roosters.. Hope they fire up..

 

[SaveTheChildren]

Fair dinkum. Must be a union troll.

I watched the Tigers v Panthers not the Bledisloe mate. Wouldn't sit through a union game unless under severe duress.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

I watched the Tigers v Panthers not the Bledisloe mate. Wouldn't sit through a union game unless under severe duress.

That can be arranged..

 

[SaveTheChildren]

No. Sonny might be in that market, but as I have explained extensively in this and the other thread, Canterbury can only operate within the market they are in (4mil for 25 players, $500K being the elite salary in the game of RL).

If you are trying to claim a betrayal of SBW by his club, you'd be better of making the point against the whole NRL and it's market. Perhaps you might make a bit of sense then, and come up with some sensible solutions to the situation for the future.


So are you now saying that Sonny betrayed Canterbury? getting them to offer the deal that he wanted? I've lost you...


All his mates? You were claiming Willie as the main betrayal, and Willie isn't earning $1mil sunshine.

You're not very good at this are you Nasser? Maybe it's only easy when Danny asks the questions. Do you want to promote Anthony's fight while you're here?;-)

Willie doesn't need to be earning the extra mill to be the main betrayal.
SBW just happens to be profiting the most. Willie just wanted to go to a successful team. He knows he is too much of a yokel to live in France.

Canterbury betrayed SBW by giving him the offer he asked for. They knew it was a dumb thing for sonny to do - but they took it anyway. Couldn't help themselves. They wanted him locked away for as long as possible because they know what he is worth internationally.

 

[TITAN1]

Willie doesn't need to be earning the extra mill to be the main betrayal.
SBW just happens to be profiting the most. Willie just wanted to go to a successful team. He knows he is too much of a yokel to live in France.

Canterbury betrayed SBW by giving him the offer he asked for. They knew it was a dumb thing for sonny to do - but they took it anyway. Couldn't help themselves. They wanted him locked away for as long as possible because they know what he is worth internationally.

Isnt that what you hire a manager for?
So his manager is "guilty' as well..

 

[SaveTheChildren]

Isnt that what you hire a manager for?
So his manager is "guilty' as well..

Exactly. Betrayed by Canterbury, his manager and his team mates. How could his manager let him sign such a stupid deal.

 

[TITAN1]

BUT,the buck stops with the manager.
If he doesnt think the deal is to his clients benefit,then no signature.
So the blame (so to speak) is the manager,100%.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

BUT,the buck stops with the manager.
If he doesnt think the deal is to his clients benefit,then no signature.
So the blame (so to speak) is the manager,100%.

Gavin Orr hung SBW out to dry. Canterbury claim to be the family club - looking after players. They were not looking out for SBW making him sign for for five years on such a low contract (low on the international not NRL stage).

Canterbury are despicable. Looking after themselves as per usual - and cocking it up as per usual

 

[Kiki]

how can they make him sign a contract??

 

[SaveTheChildren]

how can they make him sign a contract??

It is really easy. You find yourself a really really dumb Islander and give him a pen. Then you just tell him to sign it cause it is in his best interests.

It is really easy to manipulate halfwits.

 

[bartman]

Canterbury betrayed SBW by giving him the offer he asked for. They knew it was a dumb thing for sonny to do - but they took it anyway. Couldn't help themselves. They wanted him locked away for as long as possible because they know what he is worth internationally.

That's getting too deep for me to come up with anything to counter it... but if you follow that logic through you have to arrive at the point where you admit that ultimately Sonny Bill betrayed himself? ;-)

 

[SaveTheChildren]

That's getting too deep for me to come up with anything to counter it... but if you follow that logic through you have to arrive at the point where you admit that ultimately Sonny Bill betrayed himself? ;-)

No. Do you give a child what ever it wants just because it asks for it? Why not? Because it isn't good for the child. A good parent gives a child what is best for it.

Sonny Bill is a dumb footy player and is just like a kid. Canterbury, should have been looking out for sonny - not just giving him what he asked for.

5 years was not in his interests. They were in Canterbury's if he stayed.

 

[Pantherjim.]

No. Do you give a child what ever it wants just because it asks for it? Why not? Because it isn't good for the child. A good parent gives a child what is best for it.

Sonny Bill is a dumb footy player and is just like a kid. Canterbury, should have been looking out for sonny - not just giving him what he asked for.

5 years was not in his interests. They were in Canterbury's if he stayed.

If you're not a Union Troll, you obviously have a hatred of Canterbury as a club?

Either that, or you're a person of Islander Origin yourself with a massive racial chip on your shoulder perhaps?