Scomo saving me

[Frenzy.]

Yep but doesn’t Corona attack your respiratory system....doesn’t help if you smoke

Thats what I said. derp.

The whole article from your doctor is here

Talk about selective misquoting and throwing context into a spin. Barely a mention of smoking and nothing stating it as the cause. Contributory factor only, along with about 20 others.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

 

[carcharias]

I was listening to a doctor on the radio the topic was the death rate in Italy, basically he said that issue In Italy is smoking....

what about the rest of the world with it?

 

[taipan]

Gawd I love the offseason

This is not the offseason Quigs old bandit.

We have more action here, than our backline has provided over the past 10 years.

 

[BatteredFlake]

3 eeeks ago I was telling all and sundry that it was the people coming home/in from the U.S. that is our problem, no one was listening. At that time they were 3 times the amount of the next, Iran, with where it was coming from. Those stats mysteriously disappeared.
I explained about the US health system how it only services those that pay, and how their cases are skewed because all those that couldn't afford a test, it is $1000 US a go. I told all my US friends and my best mate who is now stuck there that is rampant and you don't know.
It's all come out in the wash this week.
They are getting trampled.
Our health system is top of the class.

I missed that post But have to agree 10 yr ago I was over there and the outcry over Obamas attempts to improve it was deafening. Ridiculous for a supposed first world country. Seemed to be sort of case of "Im OK cause I worked hard all my life and got good health insurance Why should I pay more taxes for someone who didnt do same ? Thats about as deep as the discussion went and of course all the right wing extreme Shock Jocks and TV station commentators Bemoaned Obamas " stupid socialist " Policies. Some people I know . had to go to see a Doctor When we were travelling away from their home town. They had Health insurance but for fairly urgent eye problem had to go to a public Clinic ,ended up walking out and going back home to see their own Dr. next day.His wife had to drive And she was too old and should not have even been Driving. ... Hopeless system even at that slightly higher level ..

 

[Generalzod]

what about the rest of the world with it?

You know the answer to that Carch well according to the experts all these people had underlying problems

 

[Generalzod]

Thats what I said. derp.

The whole article from your doctor is here

Talk about selective misquoting and throwing context into a spin. Barely a mention of smoking and nothing stating it as the cause. Contributory factor only, along with about 20 others.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

Derp oh well didn’t really need to get that personal..thought you where better than that frenzy.

 

[BatteredFlake]

Some serious action had to be taken to keep business alive but I think it will take more than just money . Someone said something about "Back to normal" I think Theres got to be a new normal . We cant keep living like we do on inflated wages and a false affluence( for those with good stable jobs), due to Cheap Chinese imports . Was never going to last . Then comes Climate Change ,now comes covid 19.... Back to normal ? I think not . Doesnt mean we cant keep the best of our values and lifestyle but the high flying has got to be over. The 50s and 60s weren't that Bad anyway .

 

[Dragon Slayer]

On the contrary, people like yourself are the least informed, take your jabs with pure trust whilst still believing that Osamas pilots brought down the Twin Towers!

So you think parents shouldn’t get their children immunised from things like whooping cough??

Oh this will be good.

Can’t wait for the response.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

I was listening to a doctor on the radio the topic was the death rate in Italy, basically he said that issue In Italy is smoking....

Yes smoking in Italy is big and definitely wouldn’t help with the virus targeting your lungs.

But a lot more things in play here.

1.There is now a very big Chinese population that lives in Northern Italy and Italy didn’t stop the regular plane flights from China until the situation was a disaster.

2. The Italian hospital system is shyte house. Really, really bad.

3. Italy has the second oldest population in the world and the majority of people who have died have been very elderly.

4. If you look at where the biggest death rates have been it’s been in cities/ countries with big populations in in dense living situations and big tourist areas. Hence Spain, Italy, New York have been some of the hardest hit places.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Don’t forget about the moon landing, plane contrails and Area 51 bro.

Yeah and don’t forget Princess Diana was murdered....

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Some serious action had to be taken to keep business alive but I think it will take more than just money . Someone said something about "Back to normal" I think Theres got to be a new normal . We cant keep living like we do on inflated wages and a false affluence( for those with good stable jobs), due to Cheap Chinese imports . Was never going to last . Then comes Climate Change ,now comes covid 19.... Back to normal ? I think not . Doesnt mean we cant keep the best of our values and lifestyle but the high flying has got to be over. The 50s and 60s weren't that Bad anyway .

Don’t take this the wrong way but shyte you sound like a miserable merkin.

 

[snout]

So you think parents shouldn’t get their children immunised from things like whooping cough??

Oh this will be good.

Can’t wait for the response.

Have you researched both sides of the argument?
Really looked into the other side?

Ask wayne Bennett would he still have his son jabbed if he had his time over.

Or my friends whos baby died after immunisation.

Why do countries who dont immunise not have these diseases anymore?

Why are parents at childcare centres up in arms about the kids who arent immunised? If their kids are arent they immune.
If youre immune arent you safe?
Maybe the GPs who peddle it to get their $20 need a different word.

It aint as cut and dried as those without all the facts think it is.

 

[Eion]

Oh ffs

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Have you researched both sides of the argument?
Really looked into the other side?

Ask wayne Bennett would he still have his son jabbed if he had his time over.

Or my friends whos baby died after immunisation.

Why do countries who dont immunise not have these diseases anymore?

Why are parents at childcare centres up in arms about the kids who arent immunised? If their kids are arent they immune.
If youre immune arent you safe?
Maybe the GPs who peddle it to get their $20 need a different word.

It aint as cut and dried as those without all the facts think it is.

I have heard about claims that they blame some kids getting autism through immunisation. For which there is no proof.

What I do know is if there was no one immunising for things like whooping cough there would be a lot of deaths from it.

I’m also sure if you were looking at your new born baby gasping for air because he or she had whooping cough you might be thinking a bit differently about immunisation as you watch helplessly as they could at any moment take their last breath.

I ask you the same question I asked Thin Skinned Shark which he avoided because he doesn’t have an intelligent answer. What would the world be like if no one immunised their children for anything?

 

[snout]

Ive had a kid born sick very sick and thats been her life.
I have spent a lot of time in childrens hospitals and seen parents you could sweep up with a dustpan due the fact they have nothing left. Nothing.
Most of us are good and do what we truly believe is best for our kids.
Sometimes its a decision not everyone agrees with but you know your kid and you make it because you know it best for them.

Like the 5000 pages on here arguing about toilet paper theres no clear cut answer in the immunisation debate.

Theres good and bad in everything
My post asked have you read both sides. I have. To a fair extent.
Both sides can ask their questions and mount an argument.
Is one stronger than the other.
Both sides say yes.

Its also an argument that could spawn a thread like this one.

Man....some of you guys on here.
Take stock.
Theres some crazy shite in the last tonne of posts

Go and hug your loved ones and have some gratitude for what you have at this time.

 

[carcharias]

You know the answer to that Carch well according to the experts all these people had underlying problems

Yes but surely you can see the difference between this and the common flu?
Looking at the spike in deaths towards the last weeks of March world wide .
It is clearly worse.
Why isn’t the flu being blamed on smoking too?

also “all of these people had underlying problems “ is complete bullshit.
Absolute bullshit.
Perfectly healthy young people have been severely sick and some have died.
That’s over a few months.

 

[carcharias]

Ive had a kid born sick very sick and thats been her life.
I have spent a lot of time in childrens hospitals and seen parents you could sweep up with a dustpan due the fact they have nothing left. Nothing.
Most of us are good and do what we truly believe is best for our kids.
Sometimes its a decision not everyone agrees with but you know your kid and you make it because you know it best for them.

Like the 5000 pages on here arguing about toilet paper theres no clear cut answer in the immunisation debate.

Theres good and bad in everything
My post asked have you read both sides. I have. To a fair extent.
Both sides can ask their questions and mount an argument.
Is one stronger than the other.
Both sides say yes.

Its also an argument that could spawn a thread like this one.

Man....some of you guys on here.
Take stock.
Theres some crazy shite in the last tonne of posts

Go and hug your loved ones and have some gratitude for what you have at this time.

I also have a sick kid and spent time in the children’s ward.
My youngest has epilepsy .
I saw all the other sick kids in Randwick.
It was shocking and sad.

I wish they could immunise for epilepsy, I’d have my son first in line .

To see him go through a seizure is heart breaking.
Every f**king time.
In public... in front of other family members.
You feel like you failed at becoming a parent.
You feel like others think that.
Not to mention the embarrassment he feels .
He feels like a disappointment
He f**king apologises.

He has something that isn’t even contagious.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Ive had a kid born sick very sick and thats been her life.
I have spent a lot of time in childrens hospitals and seen parents you could sweep up with a dustpan due the fact they have nothing left. Nothing.
Most of us are good and do what we truly believe is best for our kids.
Sometimes its a decision not everyone agrees with but you know your kid and you make it because you know it best for them.

Like the 5000 pages on here arguing about toilet paper theres no clear cut answer in the immunisation debate.

Theres good and bad in everything
My post asked have you read both sides. I have. To a fair extent.
Both sides can ask their questions and mount an argument.
Is one stronger than the other.
Both sides say yes.

Its also an argument that could spawn a thread like this one.

Man....some of you guys on here.
Take stock.
Theres some crazy shite in the last tonne of posts

Go and hug your loved ones and have some gratitude for what you have at this time.

Terribly sorry to hear what your going through. I really am.

However I will always challenge people when they promote to not immunise children in general.

The benefits of immunisation totally out weighs any potential perceived negativity from immunisation.

As I said in a previous post if everyone had the attitude to not immunise what we are experiencing now you could multiply by a 1000. Our hospital system would collapse and we wouldn’t have enough room in our morgues.

 

[Eion]

Terribly sorry to hear what your going through. I really am.

However I will always challenge people when they promote to not immunise children in general.

The benefits of immunisation totally out weighs any potential perceived negativity from immunisation.

As I said in a previous post if everyone had the attitude to not immunise what we are experiencing now you could multiply by a 1000. Our hospital system would collapse and we wouldn’t have enough room in our morgues.

Absolutely. I do accept there would be a very, very small percentage that have devastating complications from immunisation. My dad had a very rare seizure giving blood you never hear about...but I don’t advocate not giving blood.

Take polio. A terrible virus affecting kids that has been eradicated by immunisation...eradicated until people stop vaxing that is.

 

[carcharias]

Absolutely. I do accept there would be a very, very small percentage that have devastating complications from immunisation. My dad had a very rare seizure giving blood you never hear about...but I don’t advocate not giving blood.

Take polio. A terrible virus affecting kids that has been eradicated by immunisation...eradicated until people stop vaxing that is.

travel thru Africa and you can see the effects of polio still.