Scomo saving me

[Quicksilver]

I don't know. But U2 ain't worth a plane flight.

 

[bad boy bubby]

I don't know. But U2 ain't worth a plane flight.

Hahahaha

Best post in the thread!!!!!!!

 

[carcharias]

I don't know. But U2 ain't worth a plane flight.

So you see my questioning.
How can he justify all the other shit?

 

[Quicksilver]

So you see my questioning.
How can he justify all the other shit?

Well, I don't know. People need to go about their lives. Maybe it's the only overseas trip he's ever taken, I don't know. Maybe he purchased carbon offsets (which is really only a partial solution, but probably better than nothing).

Flying by plane anywhere is one of the worst things you can do for your carbon footprint. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any other option just at the moment.

We can pick the low hanging fruit though. Electricity production can be done greener. So can vehicle travel around cities. So can a number of other things.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

You don’t think money brings influence?

You think everyone acts out of a mission to do the right thing?

What kind of hippie are u?

In my opinion 1 money = 10,000 jealousies Therefore, influence is evened out, but is always in favour of the squeaky wheels. & then there is the straight out corruption money. Like GETUP trying to overthrow the government using the great communist's billions. Or Eddie & macca the miners or any of the fifty union leaders jailed over the last 50 years for theft & fraud. Now thats influence.

 

[Quicksilver]

In my opinion 1 money = 10,000 jealousies Therefore, influence is evened out, but is always in favour of the squeaky wheels. & then there is the straight out corruption money. Like GETUP trying to overthrow the government using the great communist's billions. Or Eddie & macca the miners or any of the fifty union leaders jailed over the last 50 years for theft & fraud. Now thats influence.

It's almost as if we strive for a democracy.

 

[carcharias]

Well, I don't know. People need to go about their lives. Maybe it's the only overseas trip he's ever taken, I don't know. Maybe he purchased carbon offsets (which is really only a partial solution, but probably better than nothing).

Flying by plane anywhere is one of the worst things you can do for your carbon footprint. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any other option just at the moment.

We can pick the low hanging fruit though. Electricity production can be done greener. So can vehicle travel around cities. So can a number of other things.

his office is in America.
He flys for work all the time.

this is the type of climate change warrior I am sceptical about.
This is the type I have been talking about all along.

I haven’t even got to the rest of the hypocritical shit that goes on by him.

March and scream at scomo
Then get a plane overseas to see a band you’ve just seen here.

U2
More hypocrites.

imagine the size of their carbon foot prints

 

[Quicksilver]

his office is in America.
He flys for work all the time.

this is the type of climate change warrior I am sceptical about.
This is the type I have been talking about all along.

I haven’t even got to the rest of the hypocritical shit that goes on by him.

March and scream at scomo
Then get a plane overseas to see a band you’ve just seen here.

U2
More hypocrites.

imagine the size of their carbon foot prints

Aren't you like that? You acknowledge climate change but don't think the government should act on it.

 

[carcharias]

Aren't you like that? You acknowledge climate change but don't think the government should act on it.

No ..I’m saying
They acknowledge it
Scream about it
Lay blame on someone
Then do shit that is exactly opposite of what they preach.


Get it?

 

[Quicksilver]

No ..I’m saying
They acknowledge it
Scream about it
Lay blame on someone
Then do shit that is exactly opposite of what they preach.


Get it?

Ok well that's fun to rant about I guess.

In the meantime we have a government that pokes fun at climate change and do anything they can to avoid action. And they have by far the most power to do anything meaningful (except for maybe business, but profit will always be the strongest motive for them (as it probably should be))

 

[carcharias]

So
No difference if Labour were in?

 

[Quicksilver]

Well yeah there would be a difference because they've had vastly different policies in this area.

That was what the rise of Tony Abbott was all about.

 

[carcharias]

Well yeah there would be a difference because they've had vastly different policies in this area.

That was what the rise of Tony Abbott was all about.

Ha
Give labour a crack.

then
Give liberals a crack

then
Give labour a crack


Haha

 

[Defer to the coifed]

Ok well that's fun to rant about I guess.

In the meantime we have a government that pokes fun at climate change and do anything they can to avoid action. And they have by far the most power to do anything meaningful (except for maybe business, but profit will always be the strongest motive for them (as it probably should be))

Better still, it appears your mob are about to be over run by nutters like us, ensuring that no matter what, commons sense will prevail over bullshit.

 

[wibble]

No ..I’m saying
They acknowledge it
Scream about it
Lay blame on someone
Then do shit that is exactly opposite of what they preach.


Get it?

Sometimes the charge that someone is hypocritical is used to suggest the standards they hold must not really be important. I think it is often more reasonable to see it as the person does hold the standards, and for a good reason, but has failed to live up to them because they have human weaknesses (though there definitely comes a point if a person never does what they say they should, they are clearly just paying lip service to their ideals).​

Most of us fail at some point to live up to standards we think are important.

It does make us hypocritical, but to me, that is like being a liar; we all do it sometimes. It doesn't mean we can't have high standards.

I've also seen people get accused of being hypocritical if they mostly do what they say but they're not saints.

For example, I say I respect other life forms, and people say I'm hypocritical because the vegetables I eat come from farms that have cleared away native life forms to grow vegetables. It doesn't mean I secretly don't care about animals, it just means I have to eat and haven't yet found the perfect solution.

If someone absolutely doesn't make any private changes to their lifestyle to address climate change, but insists others do and that governments do something before they do, I think they are paying lip service.

But if someone is unsure of how they can help in every single area of their lives, or struggles to find a greener solution in one area, or needs help or leadership from government or other organisations in one area, but often tries to live a life that will help our children have a less climate ravaged future, I'd say they are genuine in their desires. They are on the right path, but haven't got everything right.

I'm not sure which situation your mate is in. Possibly only he could judge, but you seem to think he could do a lot more. Perhaps you could point that out to him?

 

[Mr Angry]

We need better power sources.

My kids did not help just consumed like thier father.

But some kid somewhere will create one.

Burning stuff is simply not sustainable, it will run out, sure not for me, burn away...

Thorium and more advanced radioisotope thermoelectric generators stuff like that.

Coal and oil will run out.

Kiddies are still scared of heavy elements.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

But if someone is unsure of how they can help in every single area of their lives, or struggles to find a greener solution in one area, or needs help or leadership from government or other organisations in one area, but often tries to live a life that will help our children have a less climate ravaged future, I'd say they are genuine in their desires. They are on the right path, but haven't got everything right.

I'm doing my best to protect furutre humans. My utmost to help this country. The biggest threat & danger, is people like you, wishing for deindustrialisation & fantasies of a free socialist state.

 

[wibble]

Better still, it appears your mob are about to be over run by nutters like us, ensuring that no matter what, commons sense will prevail over bullshit.

Thankfully, every time I think the Murdochs and ScoMos of the world are going to cynically destroy us, I am reminded that most of their acolytes show this level of "common sense" and realise that humanity has enough people with intelligence and integrity to overcome those lacking in one or both.​

I'm doing my best to protect furutre humans. My utmost to help this country. The biggest threat & danger, is people like you, wishing for deindustrialisation & fantasies of a free socialist state.

I don't wish to sound too much like a spelling Nazi, but you are barely coherent in any of your posts. I'd ask what exactly you mean by "deindustrialisation", or a "free socialist state" but you spend every post you make spouting some strange slogans that I fear that is all I would get again.

I was hoping that there might be some sensible conservatives here that enjoy discussing issues that people don't see eye to eye on. Others are right, the bar in this thread is set so low it is embarrassing (and yes, I'm contributing to that. Sorry to everyone who has to read this thread...).

I'd ask which part of climate change you don't believe in, but again you would spout some nonsense about greenies, or hippies, or communism, or "your mob" or something.

 

[carcharias]

Sometimes the charge that someone is hypocritical is used to suggest the standards they hold must not really be important. I think it is often more reasonable to see it as the person does hold the standards, and for a good reason, but has failed to live up to them because they have human weaknesses (though there definitely comes a point if a person never does what they say they should, they are clearly just paying lip service to their ideals).​

Most of us fail at some point to live up to standards we think are important.

It does make us hypocritical, but to me, that is like being a liar; we all do it sometimes. It doesn't mean we can't have high standards.

I've also seen people get accused of being hypocritical if they mostly do what they say but they're not saints.

For example, I say I respect other life forms, and people say I'm hypocritical because the vegetables I eat come from farms that have cleared away native life forms to grow vegetables. It doesn't mean I secretly don't care about animals, it just means I have to eat and haven't yet found the perfect solution.

If someone absolutely doesn't make any private changes to their lifestyle to address climate change, but insists others do and that governments do something before they do, I think they are paying lip service.

But if someone is unsure of how they can help in every single area of their lives, or struggles to find a greener solution in one area, or needs help or leadership from government or other organisations in one area, but often tries to live a life that will help our children have a less climate ravaged future, I'd say they are genuine in their desires. They are on the right path, but haven't got everything right.

I'm not sure which situation your mate is in. Possibly only he could judge, but you seem to think he could do a lot more. Perhaps you could point that out to him?

well
The bloke I know does sweet f**k all that I can see.
No solar
No gas
Outdoor electric heaters
Tv’everywhere
Every kids has Xbox and tv in their rooms
Works in town
Lives walking distant to train
Still drives to work.

which is fine.. if your not complaining fossil fuels.

 

[Quicksilver]

Better still, it appears your mob are about to be over run by nutters like us, ensuring that no matter what, commons sense will prevail over bullshit.

They aren’t my mob.

They are corporate sell-outs and corrupt like the Liberals.

They just do the right thing slightly more often. Which often just leaves them muddling around without a backbone because they don’t know who they are.