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Scotty Dureau - Supersub or Supercoach?

Jono078

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He wasn't exactly crap yesterday..

He was our sole kicker, he almost got a 40/20, lovely vision and kick for Uate's try..

What the hell do you expect from him Karma?
 

Karmawave

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He wasn't exactly crap yesterday..

He was our sole kicker, he almost got a 40/20, lovely vision and kick for Uate's try..

What the hell do you expect from him Karma?


You don't get it do you?


What I was responding to was the fact he was given 2 Dally M points.

Does anyone here, even the Dureau fans, really think that Scott Dureau was the 2nd best player on the field yesterday - even though Smith benched him for poor performance? :lol:


To pick up 2 Dally M points for the game yesterday is the current issue here, not his ability or inability overall.
 

Pika

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Scheduled benching mate. He was told at half time he would be getting that spell.

Regardless, I dont think he was second best on field.

He was a bit like that little girl, with the curl. When he was good, he was very good, when he was bad.......
 

roopy

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If 16 other guys all did their jobs as well as Scott did his yesterday we would have gone pretty good.
There has always been a huge halfback/playmaker bias in MOTM awards, but the little guy is doing his share.
 

Pika

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Agree with you roopy.

I think his positive contributions well outweighed his mistakes.
 

Karmawave

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He was a bit like that little girl, with the curl. When he was good, he was very good, when he was bad.......



Yes, and unfortunately that's what he has been since his first grade debut.


Can't he just be average or slightly above average, every single week?


I'd trade the occasional ' very good ' , for Supersub playing ' OK ' every week.
 

Joker's Wild

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Seriously guys it wasnt even a bad performance from Scotty. He missed 2 tackles close to the line (which very few halfbacks in the NRL would have made) and dropped 1 ball cold (The great Lockyer did the exact same thing on Friday night). Given that he had a big hand in all 3 of our tries, Id say he is being too critical of himself.

I agree with Karma that the Dally M is a bit of a joke though
 

perverse

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we're a dangerous team with scott dureau on the field. we're impotent without him on the field.

make of that what you will.
 

Rusty

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I was impressed with Dureau's short kicking game always caught Souths wingers napping. If only Uate new how to pass :)
 

Karmawave

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And that try where Supersub somehow got HELD UP over the line when he simply had to fall through the gap 2 meters out was awful.

If anything showed what a detriment his size is, that would have been it.
 

Bring it home Knights

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I'm with Karma. Any bloke that has played 20 first grade games should be ultra consistent. I mean consistency doesn't come with experience at all does it.....

Karma = clueless!!!
 

Jono078

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But Dureau isn't as young as other players who have played 20 games, so he should be good and consistent now because he is old enough I guess.

Been there done that discussion with Karma :p

Basically just have to skip over anything he says re Dureau or still get annoyed with it :p
 

Bring it home Knights

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But Dureau isn't as young as other players who have played 20 games, so he should be good and consistent now because he is old enough I guess.

Been there done that discussion with Karma :p

Basically just have to skip over anything he says re Dureau or still get annoyed with it :p

It comes down to games, as opposed to age IMO. How old is he? 21, 22? How isn't that young?

By being in the team one week, then out of the team the next, then on the bench the next week isn't going to build consistency is it?
 

Serc

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I reckon Dureau has been good so far this year...maybe not 5 Dally M's good as you suggest Karma but above average all the same. Looking forward to seeing how he goes over the next 3-5 weeks as our team really warms up for the season :D
 

Karmawave

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By being in the team one week, then out of the team the next, then on the bench the next week isn't going to build consistency is it?



Mate that only happens because there is a massive doubt whether the bloke is any good and the answer to play number 7.

And it only happens because when he is given the opportunity to play back to back games, he ends up playing like crap at some stage and hurts his own chances.
 

strewth_mate

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What I do like about our team when Scott has his head up is that it looks like a team with a halfback.

The Titans game was particularly frustrating afterwards when I was trying to remember any impact our halves had on the game. Mullen was solid enough, Rogers was forgettable, but overall I didn't exactly notice them playing much of a role. The Titans, however, had Prince, and he was very noticeable. Whatever the reasons for the Knights going into their shell and just enduring the match, whether it was the heat, cobwebs, injuries, there was an abundance of nothing doing with our halves.

I don't like games where the halves disappear, with the match then becoming an exercise in one-out running; it's tedious to watch any team without lateral movement or occasional creative play, especially when they are desparate for it. I love to watch the ball being thrown around, and the playmakers making plays, and although the final 10 minutes of the game yesterday got a bit stupid, it was heartening to see Scott getting restless and showing a bit of effort.

I won't talk Scott up above his capability, that's silly. You could fill his position with many other players, and they could be the difference in the team's performance, provided they are willing to get involved and busy. At the moment, we've got Dureau. The thing I like about him, for better or worse, is that he tries things, then keeps trying, and due to persistence and the ability to quite often successfully do what he tries, I notice him for the whole game. If nothing else, it's something to build on.
 

Stranger

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Yes, and unfortunately that's what he has been since his first grade debut.


Can't he just be average or slightly above average, every single week?


I'd trade the occasional ' very good ' , for Supersub playing ' OK ' every week.

TBH, i think you are having us on...

If you wanted average every week... you would want Finch steering the ship?
 

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