Semi RaDrama

[Penrose Warrior]

Hahaha
Male commentators can say whatever the f**k they want
Yet when pretty much the only female voice in the game comments on something that
has been in the game and all over the news, she's out of line?
She's right
Her timing is perfect

Mate, engage your brain. It has absolutely zero to do with what gender she is. If a bloke said that, it would be just as 100% as out of line. I said, what she said was pertinent, when she said it and in the context she said it was unprofessional and harmful to the rights of Semi Radradra. Absolutely no reason for you to make it a male v female thing.

But yeah, a lot of us have learned nothing from the SKD situation. So whatever.

 

[Grail]

wtf ?

The first we heard about this was after the alleged victim made the complaint to police

And then it was in all the newspapers and across all the media.
Anyone else making a complaint to police, it doesn't get any media coverage at all.

So, when every major paper is leading their sports section and often their general news section with "NRL Star charged with domestic violence", the cops really get backed into a corner.

 

[carcharias]

Mate, engage your brain. It has absolutely zero to do with what gender she is. If a bloke said that, it would be just as 100% as out of line. I said, what she said was pertinent, when she said it and in the context she said it was unprofessional and harmful to the rights of Semi Radradra. Absolutely no reason for you to make it a male v female thing.

But yeah, a lot of us have learned nothing from the SKD situation. So whatever.

So why haven't you and others singled out every single male footy commentator who has put their bit in?
Ey?

Radio
Tv
Print

All saying the same thing.
And they e been saying it for years about other players too.

If vautin had been the one to say it nobody would have blinked.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

So why haven't you and others singled out every single male footy commentator who has put their bit in?
Ey?

Radio
Tv
Print

All saying the same thing.
And they e been saying it for years about other players too.

If vautin had been the one to say it nobody would have blinked.

Because Molan was the only one I saw. I'm not a massive consumer of media, especially on TV. I saw her comments via news.com.au and read a transcript of what she said.

I would have blinked if it had been Fatty Vautin, Caitlin Jenner, Donald Duck, E.T (the alien version) or any other form of species you wish to name. It was flat out wrong to use a man who is entitled to the presumption of innocence as a step ladder to a soapbox. If you suggest it was due to her sex that I'm having a go, then you don't address the issue at hand. As I said, nothing was learned from the SKD fiasco and it should've been. If (IFFF) Semi is found guilty, then we can get up on our lecturns all we want. But another trial by media? Nah.

 

[carcharias]

Because Molan was the only one I saw. I'm not a massive consumer of media, especially on TV. I saw her comments via news.com.au and read a transcript of what she said.

I would have blinked if it had been Fatty Vautin, Caitlin Jenner, Donald Duck, E.T (the alien version) or any other form of species you wish to name. It was flat out wrong to use a man who is entitled to the presumption of innocence as a step ladder to a soapbox. If you suggest it was due to her sex that I'm having a go, then you don't address the issue at hand. As I said, nothing was learned from the SKD fiasco and it should've been. If (IFFF) Semi is found guilty, then we can get up on our lecturns all we want. But another trial by media? Nah.

She said right from the start he has not been found guilty of anything.
Exactly the same as all the others who have mentioned it in the press.

But this is the one you single out?
The one said by the woman?

Besides what did she say that was so wrong?

Please quote it.

 

[Frailty]

And then it was in all the newspapers and across all the media.
Anyone else making a complaint to police, it doesn't get any media coverage at all.

So, when every major paper is leading their sports section and often their general news section with "NRL Star charged with domestic violence", the cops really get backed into a corner.

Oh please! Police do not operate based on what the media reports or doesn't unless they are reporting information that has not been known to police. It is such a ridiculous assertion based on nothing but paranoia and lack of knowledge of police processes.

Furthermore, Newspapers will only run the headline "NRL Star charged with domestic violence" when he has been charged by Police - not before. Do you know why? Defamation. Same as newspapers won't report a player is being investigated unless Police have already started an investigation.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

She said right from the start he has not been found guilty of anything.
Exactly the same as all the others who have mentioned it in the press.

But this is the one you single out?
The one said by the woman?

Besides what did she say that was so wrong?

Please quote it.

For a start, I said I haven't read anything else in the press - so if you want to forward anything to me, I'll look at it and pass judgement. At the minute, I'm passing it on her. Who just so happens to be a woman. Trust me, that's nothing meaningful what gender is she. I trust she got that job on merit, not because she's a woman, and I'll treat her and her words as equal.

She said he had not been found guilty of anything but then - as I said before - explicably linked him to the carrying out of domestic violence in the next breath. It rendered what she said as absolutely useless. These anti domestic violence messages have a place, absolutely they do. When the guy hadn't even been charged or convicted at the time, and you're discussing the horrors of domestic violence in the same segment as his name? That's piss poor. You may disagree, that's your call. My call is that in this day and age of talk/post/write now, think later that everyone fires a gun in the heat of the moment - as they did with SKD - and worries about repercussion and verdict much later.

 

[betcats]

Oh please! Police do not operate based on what the media reports or doesn't unless they are reporting information that has not been known to police. It is such a ridiculous assertion based on nothing but paranoia and lack of knowledge of police processes.

Furthermore, Newspapers will only run the headline "NRL Star charged with domestic violence" when he has been charged by Police - not before. Do you know why? Defamation. Same as newspapers won't report a player is being investigated unless Police have already started an investigation.

Are you saying the media has no effect on police investigations? because that would be very naïve imo.

Look up and read about what the police investigator said about the bulldogs gang rape investigation recently, the investigation was handled with very little respect paid to "police process" and the profile and reporting of the case is the reason why.

 

[betcats]

For a start, I said I haven't read anything else in the press - so if you want to forward anything to me, I'll look at it and pass judgement. At the minute, I'm passing it on her. Who just so happens to be a woman. Trust me, that's nothing meaningful what gender is she. I trust she got that job on merit, not because she's a woman, and I'll treat her and her words as equal.

She said he had not been found guilty of anything but then - as I said before - explicably linked him to the carrying out of domestic violence in the next breath. It rendered what she said as absolutely useless. These anti domestic violence messages have a place, absolutely they do. When the guy hadn't even been charged or convicted at the time, and you're discussing the horrors of domestic violence in the same segment as his name? That's piss poor. You may disagree, that's your call. My call is that in this day and age of talk/post/write now, think later that everyone fires a gun in the heat of the moment - as they did with SKD - and worries about repercussion and verdict much later.

It really doesn't seem that bad if she pointed out he hasn't been charged with anything and they are just allegations....also if they are discussing domestic violence allegations why is that a bad time to give and anti domestic violence message?

I haven't seen it though so could be way off.

 

[Snappy]

So, when every major paper is leading their sports section and often their general news section with "NRL Star charged with domestic violence", the cops really get backed into a corner.

huh ?

How are the Police 'backed into a corner' AFTER they have already charged someone ?

There was no media pressure at all in this case for police to lay charges.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

It's a bad time because at the time she launched into it, there had been no charges brought forth or convictions. As I keep saying, a guy's name was interjected into a conversation that could have had (and still could) have nothing to do with any of his actions past, present or future. The trial by public/media is something through which a lot of innocent people have suffered greatly through. If this guy is innocent as well, he'll be suffering additional and undeserved hurt for someone who used a strongly-rating programme to link his name to domestic violence. Let's not be naive, she used his name and his situation to say what she said - even after attempting to put a caveat on it that he should be allowed presumption of innocence.

 

[Snappy]

Ihe'll be suffering additional and undeserved hurt for someone who used a strongly-rating programme to link his name to domestic violence..

Get a grip.

The allegations had already been made across all media linking his name with domestic violence.

 

[betcats]

I'll have to look it up but if she is condemning domestic violence and not condemning Semi then I can't see why I would have a problem with it.

Whenever these allegations are made against a player they will get discussed on the various footy shows and that discussion almost always ends with a condemnation of domestic violence in general. Was this any different? Ive literally seen Fatty, Sterlo, Ikin, Johns plus more go straingt in like that after discussing the most recent Allegations/charges etc

 

[Snappy]

What Erin said was brave and very poignant, and the NRL deserve to be called out on white knighting domestic violence charities, whilst allowing players who've perpetrated domestic violence to take the field each week.

 

[carcharias]

For a start, I said I haven't read anything else in the press - so if you want to forward anything to me, I'll look at it and pass judgement. At the minute, I'm passing it on her. Who just so happens to be a woman. Trust me, that's nothing meaningful what gender is she. I trust she got that job on merit, not because she's a woman, and I'll treat her and her words as equal.

She said he had not been found guilty of anything but then - as I said before - explicably linked him to the carrying out of domestic violence in the next breath. It rendered what she said as absolutely useless. These anti domestic violence messages have a place, absolutely they do. When the guy hadn't even been charged or convicted at the time, and you're discussing the horrors of domestic violence in the same segment as his name? That's piss poor. You may disagree, that's your call. My call is that in this day and age of talk/post/write now, think later that everyone fires a gun in the heat of the moment - as they did with SKD - and worries about repercussion and verdict much later.

So you missed all the other men sitting next to her congratulate her, applaud and say publicly they agree with her comments?
Also you haven't read or heard one other thing about it in in the media ?
Even though you are a footy tragic who posts on a footy forum regularly and even though it has been on every single news broadcast since it was first reported by a man?

ya see.
I find that to be either astonishing or just plain old bullshit.

 

[mave]

4 weeks for Semi
100k fine for Parra.

A media conference by Mike Baird wouldnt hurt either.

 

[Nice Beaver]

It's a bad time because at the time she launched into it, there had been no charges brought forth or convictions. As I keep saying, a guy's name was interjected into a conversation that could have had (and still could) have nothing to do with any of his actions past, present or future. The trial by public/media is something through which a lot of innocent people have suffered greatly through. If this guy is innocent as well, he'll be suffering additional and undeserved hurt for someone who used a strongly-rating programme to link his name to domestic violence. Let's not be naive, she used his name and his situation to say what she said - even after attempting to put a caveat on it that he should be allowed presumption of innocence.

You are referring to the Footy Show, right? :lol:

 

[T-Boon]

So you missed all the other men sitting next to her congratulate her, applaud and say publicly they agree with her comments?
Also you haven't read or heard one other thing about it in in the media ?
Even though you are a footy tragic who posts on a footy forum regularly and even though it has been on every single news broadcast since it was first reported by a man?

ya see.
I find that to be either astonishing or just plain old bullshit.

Erin's the first to come out with this kind of stupid commentary on the Radradra episode - it is highly prejudicial and completely unnecessary.
What does "it needs to stop" mean? thats something Karl Stefanovic would say.
When was the last NRL player convicted of DV?

 

[betcats]

Erin's the first to come out with this kind of stupid commentary on the Radradra episode - it is highly prejudicial and completely unnecessary.
What does "it needs to stop" mean? thats something Karl Stefanovic would say.
When was the last NRL player convicted of DV?

Zane Tetevano was jailed for it last year.

 

[millersnose]

its difficult to see the timing as anything but suspicious