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Semi RaDrama

madunit

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Forget about the footy for a second.....
If the allegations of semi are true about him hitting his ex. Well it just shows he's a weak little turd escaping Australia so he can hide out in Fiji/France... because he's to scared to face the music...
I might not be big nor strong but I would definitely go toe to toe with him to prove a point... Win or lose im NOT afraid of cowards like him and I'll stand up for domestic violence.
I hope you meant against domestic violence.
 
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For a start, I said I haven't read anything else in the press - so if you want to forward anything to me, I'll look at it and pass judgement. At the minute, I'm passing it on her. Who just so happens to be a woman. Trust me, that's nothing meaningful what gender is she. I trust she got that job on merit, not because she's a woman, and I'll treat her and her words as equal.

She said he had not been found guilty of anything but then - as I said before - explicably linked him to the carrying out of domestic violence in the next breath. It rendered what she said as absolutely useless. These anti domestic violence messages have a place, absolutely they do. When the guy hadn't even been charged or convicted at the time, and you're discussing the horrors of domestic violence in the same segment as his name? That's piss poor. You may disagree, that's your call. My call is that in this day and age of talk/post/write now, think later that everyone fires a gun in the heat of the moment - as they did with SKD - and worries about repercussion and verdict much later.

Agree Penrose , I gave her a serve in Twitter over it too.

Nothing to do with her being a woman & everything to do with using an allegation (at that stage) as a tool to launch a diatribe.
 

madunit

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If Parra have any integrity they will suspend Semi immediately pending the investigation. If he s proven guilty he must have his contract torn up. The NRL if they are fairdinkum will de-register players and refuse to register them for a period much the same as with drug cheats.

It won't be a popular decision for some, but if the game is going to be seen as taking a meaningful stance against domestic violence then they must take action.
two words.

Robert
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That prick didn't get banned, Semi sure as f**k won't.
 

betcats

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its difficult to see the timing as anything but suspicious

Only if you have tunnel vision. What does she get out of this? Dragging her childs fathers name through the gutter and possibly ruining his earning potential(some of which she would no doubt be entitled too)...I can see why people think its suspicious but I can also see it could be other things as well, maybe she was desperately trying to make it work for the kids sake or maybe she was scared of doing it while he was here. There are many, many cases of women(and men probably) who couldn't report abuse until they were away from their abuser, this could be just that for all we know.
 

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Zane Tetevano was jailed for it last year.

Well answered, haha. I just looked him up - yep he was a NRL player for the Knights and Manly. He got sacked for the DV and will not play again.
The article I just looked up had a photo of him with his new girlfriend who is utterly gorgeous. Haha. Thats where something "needs to be done". New campaign "Girls, don't date guys who are convicted of DV"
 

betcats

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Well answered, haha. I just looked him up - yep he was a NRL player for the Knights and Manly. He got sacked for the DV and will not play again.
The article I just looked up had a photo of him with his new girlfriend who is utterly gorgeous. Haha. Thats where something "needs to be done". New campaign "Girls, don't date guys who are convicted of DV"

He was nothing special but he played 30 odd games and would of played more. No idea why a girl would go out with him after that, I think he pleaded guilty as well.
 

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Snappy

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Agree Penrose , I gave her a serve in Twitter over it too.

Nothing to do with her being a woman & everything to do with using an allegation (at that stage) as a tool to launch a diatribe.

Did it make you feel like a big man to berate a woman for taking a stand on domestic violence ?
 

betcats

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I think Molan just rubs people the wrong way, I have a dislike for her and I have no idea why.
 

Snappy

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Who's next on herberts twitter rant list ? Rosie Batty, David Morrison, Lisa Wilkinson, Lara Pitt ?
 

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Agree Penrose , I gave her a serve in Twitter over it too.

Nothing to do with her being a woman & everything to do with using an allegation (at that stage) as a tool to launch a diatribe.

Using a current media story to make a point?
The hide of her.
I don't really like Molan and think she adds very little to any league program, but what she said was 100% spot on.
While the allegation has been made against Radradra, she wasn't specifically talking about him. She was saying that anyone found guilty should be tossed from the game.
I'm sure, whether Radradra is found not guilty or guilty, she will have the same to say the next time someone has allegations made against them (unless the NRL does start handing out suspensions/expulsions for guilty offenders)
 

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He was nothing special but he played 30 odd games and would of played more. No idea why a girl would go out with him after that, I think he pleaded guilty as well.

Yep, the article suggested there were numerous seperate occasions and they seemed nasty.
He was apparently suffering from severe depression and came from a rough background. Hopefully he got some counselling and has moved on.
 

Penrose Warrior

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So you missed all the other men sitting next to her congratulate her, applaud and say publicly they agree with her comments?
Also you haven't read or heard one other thing about it in in the media ?
Even though you are a footy tragic who posts on a footy forum regularly and even though it has been on every single news broadcast since it was first reported by a man?

ya see.
I find that to be either astonishing or just plain old bullshit.

Correct, I missed the men congratulating her. I told you, I read it in an online news article. The Footy Show is on at 11pm in NZ (where I live), I have kids and barely watch any sport/TV past the news at 6.30 during the week if at all. I read the news before they wake up in the morning, and post at lunchtime or any other time I get a minute (ie now when they're away with their Mum). Hence I can really only comment on the article I read, and anything in the NZ TV media which is bugger all. I post a lot, that is true. I can't see the relevance, however.

All I'm saying is that what she said was prejudicial. Others agree with me. You don't. That's a forum, right? I'm all for you holding your opinion or it'd get boring around here. There are so many good times to voice an anti-domestic violence message...one of them is not whilst a man, who is entitled to presumption of innocence, is being discussed ad nauseum through the media in forums etc. It links him too strongly to a sense of guilt. Let him have his day in court, or wherever it gets to, then we can hammer home the message. That's a fair system. I don't dislike Molan. It's nothing like that.
 

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What Erin said was brave and very poignant, and the NRL deserve to be called out on white knighting domestic violence charities, whilst allowing players who've perpetrated domestic violence to take the field each week.

did she mention Eddie McGuire and Sam Newman in her rant and how 9 should have punished them instead of doing nothing?
 

T-Boon

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Using a current media story to make a point?
The hide of her.
I don't really like Molan and think she adds very little to any league program, but what she said was 100% spot on.
While the allegation has been made against Radradra, she wasn't specifically talking about him. She was saying that anyone found guilty should be tossed from the game.
I'm sure, whether Radradra is found not guilty or guilty, she will have the same to say the next time someone has allegations made against them (unless the NRL does start handing out suspensions/expulsions for guilty offenders)

Yeah, but what she said wasn't "spot on". It was wrong. She was wrong about it.
From what I can see the last NRL player convicted of DV was a guy named Zane Tatevala and he has been punted from the game. That was in early 2015.
That fact makes her comments utter diatribe. She has kind of implicated the NRL in something that is as I see it totally unfair.
I read what she has said and the only conclusion I can make is the NRL has failed to deal with a flood of DV convictions properly. Whereas the reality seems to be that is just not the case.
All she seems to have done is further imbed the thought that Radradra is a women basher -which is totally prejudicial.
 

Snappy

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Oh look El derp got out of bed to blame everything on someone else ? whats it like to be unemployed ?
 

Snappy

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Yeah, but what she said wasn't "spot on". It was wrong. She was wrong about it.
From what I can see the last NRL player convicted of DV was a guy named Zane Tatevala and he has been punted from the game. That was in early 2015.
That fact makes her comments utter diatribe. She has kind of implicated the NRL in something that is as I see it totally unfair.
I read what she has said and the only conclusion I can make is the NRL has failed to deal with a flood of DV convictions properly. Whereas the reality seems to be that is just not the case.
All she seems to have done is further imbed the thought that Radradra is a women basher -which is totally prejudicial.

NRL have a history of allowing convicted domestic violence offenders play in the NRL
 

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I'm not sure that the NRL took any action at all on Tetevano. The Knights sacked him, for sure... I can't recall the NRL saying anything much about it. Molan was 100% correct regardless, because the NRL has a strong history of allowing domestic abusers to play the game... even if they did take action on a nuffy or 2.
 

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