Shane Flanagan's rant, Greenberg's response

[Card Shark]

We played crap & can hardly blame the refs, although we were more hard done by than the cowboys.

I thought Gal was milking the penalty when he lost it but that photo of him getting to his feet with both hands of the cowboys marker STILL on the ball is damning.

If that is up the other end or 20 minutes previous in the game, the ref gives a penalty.

The Cowboys player took the odds to it, knowing the ref was unlikely to penalise in the circumstances, & got away with it. The ref didn't have the balls to penalise him.

A glaring inconsistency is when we lost to the roosters 2 weeks earlier, Gal pushed the limits with a hold down & rightfully got penalised.

Ref had the balls to penalise & good on him but why not yesterday?

 

[the_flight_of_the_magpie]

Greenberg forgets this happened under his watch at the Bulldogs http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-05-15/dogs-denied-by-video-ref-in-dragons-thriller/1684800

 

[Eion]

No I didn't see that. Ethan Lowe was a great chance of getting to that ball, he was a lot closer to it then the Sharks player that got it. Maloney knew it too and that's why he tackled him

Crap

 

[Spot On]

A glaring inconsistency is when we lost to the roosters 2 weeks earlier, Gal pushed the limits with a hold down & rightfully got penalised.

Ref had the balls to penalise & good on him but why not yesterday?

.... and this is why I will not praise what Greenburg has done today. If anything he has failed to address the real issue.....

Fix the refereeing standard and the bunker before coming out and blasting those whinging about it.

The ruck is a joke, the consistency of many 'interpretations' by the refs is a joke and above all Tony Archer's time as the ref's boss has been a failure. Just referee to the rules to start with and clean the effing ruck up and be consistent. If the bunker is to be used then let's go the whole hog like other sports do. The Walker on side/off side needs addressing if the technology is available.

What the f**k is Archer doing????

Greenberg once again has had a bit each way today and failed to address anything. Nothing. Again.

I'm not a supporter of any of the semi finals teams that played on the w/e but I can't understand how anyone can be happy with how those games were officiated. It is simply not good enough. And that is what needs addressing. Does anyone think the 10K fine will deter coaches from ever having a whinge at the refs after a poor performance that they believe cost them the game??? Maybe if they get serious and increase the fine to 50K there might be change. But again, Todd will have to grow a set and implement change rather than attempt to throw a tanty and deliver a lot of well scripted words in front of a camera and then have no follow through nor actions to follow up his rhetoric.

 

[to_ddeath]

Every year there's no Perth NRL team is a great year!

You'll be pushing up daisies before it gets put on the NRL table.

No worries we'll be back next year.

You'll again have no team to follow.

Gawd I love reading your misery...such a great start to the working week.
Kleenex called - they wanna sponsor you blokes.

 

[Eion]

.... and this is why I will not praise what Greenburg has done today. If anything he has failed to address the real issue.....

Fix the refereeing standard and the bunker before coming out and blasting those whinging about it.

The ruck is a joke, the consistency of many 'interpretations' by the refs is a joke and above all Tony Archer's time as the ref's boss has been a failure. Just referee to the rules to start with and clean the effing ruck up and be consistent. If the bunker is to be used then let's go the whole hog like other sports do. The Walker on side/off side needs addressing if the technology is available.

What the f**k is Archer doing????

Greenberg once again has had a bit each way today and failed to address anything. Nothing. Again.

I'm not a supporter of any of the semi finals teams that played on the w/e but I can't understand how anyone can be happy with how those games were officiated. It is simply not good enough. And that is what needs addressing. Does anyone think the 10K fine will deter coaches from ever having a whinge at the refs after a poor performance that they believe cost them the game??? Maybe if they get serious and increase the fine to 50K there might be change. But again, Todd will have to grow a set and implement change rather than attempt to throw a tanty and deliver a lot of well scripted words in front of a camera and then have no follow through nor actions to follow up his rhetoric.

Oh Todd will be happy enough to lob a bigger fine on flanno and baz because the Tele / fox mob are right behind him. Despite flanno going through a laundry list of errors and not questioning their integrity at all. Then it'll be back to 10 for next time.

 

[The_Shield]

Crap

Have a look at the picture mate. Proves it. Sharks weren't hard done by

 

[Eion]

Have a look at the picture mate. Proves it. Sharks weren't hard done by

The picture was when the ball left his foot you peanut

 

[Sphagnum]

I wonder if there will ever be a day when Melbourne lose a final on a 50/50 not going their way.

Doubt it.

 

[Card Shark]

Unfortunately the referees have made a rod for their own back this year by not clamping down on fundamentals of the game such as playing the ball, offside (going early), forward passes from dummy half, scrums packing like a herd of sheep....

I actually applaud that Maloney & others are sin-binned for professional fouls because they need to regain control of the game.

The players do whatever the f**k they want & get away with it.

The coaches teach them to play this way, so it's a bit rude to whinge when it goes against you.

 

[Diesel]

I've bagged Todd out a lot and he's deserved it but this is one of the first times I've agreed with him. I only hope he's willing to make more stands like this against the bullshit that goes on and on and on

 

[The_Shield]

The picture was when the ball left his foot you peanut

No it wasn't. The picture is when Maloney tackles Lowe

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I think what pisses me off the most is that they're all over the frigging place. For 5 years they jumped on anyone not playing the ball correctly, now they don't. They jumped on players not getting to their feet before playing the ball, now they don't. Tripping has been an automatic send-off since I was a kid in the 1960's, now it's a penalty and a small fine. They call players by name and that should never, ever have been allowed. And that's just a few of the things that piss me off these days.

Get rid of the people running the refs and start again.

 

[Spot On]

Oh Todd will be happy enough to lob a bigger fine on flanno and baz because the Tele / fox mob are right behind him. Despite flanno going through a laundry list of errors and not questioning their integrity at all. Then it'll be back to 10 for next time.

...if they do that then they all need the arse. Soft if that becomes fact.

 

[Eion]

No it wasn't. The picture is when Maloney tackles Lowe

A second after the ball was kicked. He was no chance to get it. Anyone with half a brain knows this.

 

[Eion]

...if they do that then they all need the arse. Soft if that becomes fact.

Watch this space mate

 

[Spot On]

Unfortunately the referees have made a rod for their own back this year by not clamping down on fundamentals of the game such as playing the ball, offside (going early), forward passes from dummy half, scrums packing like a herd of sheep....

I actually applaud that Maloney & others are sin-binned for professional fouls because they need to regain control of the game.

The players do whatever the f**k they want & get away with it.

The coaches teach them to play this way, so it's a bit rude to whinge when it goes against you.

Exactly. Players have to literally fight to play the ball with defenders hanging off them, hands all over the ball, pinning their elbows in, being pushed backwards, being pulled forwards etc, etc etc. Just fix it. The longer it goes on the greater the advertisement telling us that they can't. Surely they are aware of it?

 

[Spot On]

Watch this space mate

....and so what will Toddies big whinge have been for if they keep the same 'ol system???

 

[Card Shark]

They call players by name and that should never, ever have been allowed.

Watching the U20s final yesterday, Casey Badger was calling players by their number every time & communicating well to the players in the ruck.

It's probably because she doesn't know their names but f**k it was refreshing!

 

[Eion]

....and so what will Toddies big whinge have been for if they keep the same 'ol system???

Same thing as it always is. A wankfest attention seek with no positive or lasting outcomes.