Sharks cap superthread - latest: NRL clears Flanagan to assistant coach from 2020

[Frailty]

You always have to give a person a second chance after they have completed a ban and what ever treatment/ courses.....but as I said second offence, the door is locked.
There are thousands of stories of people turning the life’s around

This I don't buy. The game can have a significant cultural impact if it took a strong stance against anyone convicted of DV, Sexual Assault, or Grievous Bodily Harm. These 'redemption stories' only reinforce that as long as you're good at sport, we don't care.

If you have these convictions, there are a lot of roles and positions you simply cannot do anymore - so it's not like every workplace or role has a 'second chance' element to it.

As for Flanagan - he is an idiot who couldn't follow a simple condition of his suspension. He'll be punished, and rightly so.

 

[MilkShark]

Considering the stance NRL has taken on domestic violence, any such cases should now be met with a permanent ban from the game.

 

[unforgiven]

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I missed no point, you are trying to change the topic of discussion so I ignored it. This has nothing to do with players who bash women, its about the Sharks cheating once again!

 

[MilkShark]

I missed no point, you are trying to change the topic of discussion so I ignored it. This has nothing to do with players who bash women, its about the Sharks cheating once again!

lol ok bro you dimwit

 

[txta2]

Sharks board employs the ceo and coach not the nrl. They’ve had some serious shonky snr management over the last decade and even the allegedly good ceo they got potentially cheated the cap!

Just some of the management shonkiness and changes
2007 ceo resigns
2009 ceo resigns under sexual misconduct cloud
2010 ceo resigns over falling out with chairman
2013 ceo resigns over board decision to reinstate drug cheating accused staff
2014 ceo sacked
2015 ceo alleged to have overseen cap cheating
2017 Chairman done for drug possession ceo resigns
2018 New ceo
2018 half backroom staff made redundant after another major financial loss, coach facing deregistration, 3 board members resign

Even I feel sorry for Cronulla fans!

Now show everyone the Parra and Dogs past misdemeanours.
The problem is boards changing, CEOS changing and the power struggles that are ripping clubs apart.
Voting by members and time frames of boards changing are issues.
Voting in board members who don't give a stuff about the club are issues as well

 

[txta2]

Couldn’t I just go through the broncos over the last 10 years and find just as many incidents.?
Look at this year.
Coaching debacle
Letting that piece of human shit Lodge play for you.
Greg Bird disaster
Kev Walters left
Another year another failure on feild
Annihilated by the Dragons in front of your home crowd.

Andrew Gee sitting next to Bennett when h is meant to be banned from the NRL.

Maybe you should be more concerned about your mob.

Broncos, Rooters and Storm don't have money issues so there is stability amongst the board and CEOS.

 

[unforgiven]

lol ok bro you dimwit

lol someone who uses the term bro calling someone a dimwit. Players who hit women should be thrown out of the game but that has nothing to do with this discussion, two wrong do not make a right, so it is not correct to say Flanno should not be punished because other people hit women. What a stupid comment to make.

 

[MilkShark]

lol someone who uses the term bro calling someone a dimwit. Players who hit women should be thrown out of the game but that has nothing to do with this discussion, two wrong do not make a right, so it is not correct to say Flanno should not be punished because other people hit women. What a stupid comment to make.

Hang on bro, i'm just going to try and find where I wrote Flano shouldn't be punished.

BRB

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

lol someone who uses the term bro calling someone a dimwit. Players who hit women should be thrown out of the game but that has nothing to do with this discussion, two wrong do not make a right, so it is not correct to say Flanno should not be punished because other people hit women. What a stupid comment to make.

The art of the deflection. Some do it well, the others are sharks supporters.

 

[carcharias]

lol someone who uses the term bro calling someone a dimwit. Players who hit women should be thrown out of the game but that has nothing to do with this discussion, two wrong do not make a right, so it is not correct to say Flanno should not be punished because other people hit women. What a stupid comment to make.

I’d say it’s people comparing the severity of the penalties for different things more than anything else.
Not the actual incident.

 

[unforgiven]

I’d say it’s people comparing the severity of the penalties for different things more than anything else.
Not the actual incident.

But really they should be 2 seperate discussions and people shouldn't be using violence against women to imply "hey what we did isn't so bad because these other people hit women". Own your mistakes, cop the punishment and move on.

 

[SharkShocked]

But really they should be 2 seperate discussions and people shouldn't be using violence against women to imply "hey what we did isn't so bad because these other people hit women". Own your mistakes, cop the punishment and move on.

People will always compare punishments for different misdemeanors and whether or not they believe it fits the crime.

Mitchell Pearce's treatment a great example.

But yes, he will need to suck it up and chuff off.

 

[unforgiven]

Hang on bro, i'm just going to try and find where I wrote Flano shouldn't be punished.

BRB

So why are you comparing his punishment to that of others?

 

[unforgiven]

People will always compare punishments for different misdemeanors and whether or not they believe it fits the crime.

Mitchell Pearce's treatment a great example.

But yes, he will need to suck it up and chuff off.

Doesn't mean I have to be drawn into their comparison as I can treat the issues as 2 different situations as they certainly are.

 

[MilkShark]

So why are you comparing his punishment to that of others?

Why does everyone compare Pearces punishment?

Why does everyone compare Carneys punishment?

Why does everyone compare Storms punishment?

The NRL has for a very long time lacked any kind of consistency with their rulings.

 

[Wizardman]

Barry Russell reminds me of the Jim Carrey character in "Liar Liar". He cannot help but tell the truth even though it is f**king up his club. Same hilarious results as the movie too

 

[unforgiven]

Why does everyone compare Pearces punishment?

Why does everyone compare Carneys punishment?

Why does everyone compare Storms punishment?

The NRL has for a very long time lacked any kind of consistency with their rulings.

Comparing punishments for the same crime is logical, comparing how Flanno is treated and how Lodge is treated are 2 seperate situations.

Also precedence doesn't mean you have to keep making the same mistakes when dealing with people. If you realise you made a mistake in the past you treat it differently next time.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Comparing punishments for the same crime is logical, comparing how Flanno is treated and how Lodge is treated are 2 seperate situations.

Also precedence doesn't mean you have to keep making the same mistakes when dealing with people. If you realise you made a mistake in the past you treat it differently next time.

The bottom line is, if he has done the wrong thing and thumbed his nose at the rules of his suspension, he deserves everything he gets.

I agree you can not compare to the assaults etc, however in those cases I think those arguing the NRL is a joke are correct. No consistency and have created a massive rod for the game as a whole

 

[MilkShark]

Comparing punishments for the same crime is logical, comparing how Flanno is treated and how Lodge is treated are 2 seperate situations.

Also precedence doesn't mean you have to keep making the same mistakes when dealing with people. If you realise you made a mistake in the past you treat it differently next time.

All that I am saying is that the crime of domestic violence is far greater than breaching NRL rules of contact yet the NRL, I am sure, will rule on the domestic violence cases far more softly.

My personal opinion on Flano is that he should be outted, he broke the rules and now its time to pay for them.

 

[SharkShocked]

Of course you don't. Me personally i'm interested in the detail. Was his communication in relation to planning for 2015 or was he actively trying to influence 2014.

I think based on his arrogance and stupidity alone of defying the rules around his ban he deserves punishment. Irrespective of aforementioned query on details.

I'm not so sure i agree with a hefty and long punishment however. Not adhering correctly to punishment is as previously mentioned arrogant and stupid beyond measure, but by all means it's not really up there on my list of offences that warrant lengthy punishments. Particularly with what goes on in the game that gets hit with the feather duster.

I think there are more likely 2 possible driving factors around his punishment, that would be either that there is more to come with his involvement in any salary cap related findings. If this is indeed correct, i personally would have preferred the salary cap findings released first and all information related to a persons involvement out in the open before any punishment handed out, i think that's the ideal scenario.

Or it's really making up for lost opportunity from the ASADA involvement, where i'm 100% sure there are so many unknown events/facts that will never surface publicly and that the view from NRL HQ would be that he got off extremely lightly.

Either way, will be interested in the detail.