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Sharks want Mateo?

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eel01s said:
I may be wrong, but doesn't the leagues club run the NRL team? So to change the board, do you need the vote in the leagues club elections or the footy club elections? Or both?

Both, the Leagues club Runs the NRL side with But part of that "Deal" is that 3 Football Club Board Members must be on the Board of the Leagues club. So you have to get your people in either way.
 
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TheRam said:
Very simplistic view MITS. It would be extraordinary if someone went to that much trouble to just get a player sacked. No, the real reason people get together in our 'she will be right mate' lay back country, is when we have really had enough of some ones incompetence, mismanagement, corruption and or all of the above. I am not saying that DF is corrupt, I wouldn’t know or have any inside info to suggest such a thing.

But he has manipulated the board to his own advantage, this is certain.

Also I know that he is a hired gun now, but anyone who has any understanding of the big bad world out there, knows that what seems is not what always is.

The uneducated would also say that we have elected John Howard to be the leader of Australia and by all accounts he is. However ask any educated Banker, or financier and their answer would be the real leaders of our country are on the board of the Reserve Bank of Australia(RBA). They lay the real agenda of this country, unbeknown to the majority, and Johnny just says aye.

My point is same, same.

Yeah it is simplistic but I was going into Hypothetical. Lets say you want to get the Board Turfed. The Same thing happens if you have an Ever member votes policy and it leads to the downfall of the club once the as you put it 'she will be right mate' lay back country people all get what they want then drift away and don't renew their membership.

Also he has Manipulate the Board to his advantage? May I ask how so apart from him being employed?
 

fish eel

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i think we all know if fitzgerald had to face a vote, he'd get an ass whooping dead man debnam style
 

fish eel

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I also think if the board faced a serious challenge...from people that knew what they were doing and knew how to win votes, they'd get the shock of their lives
 
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Leagues Club Board, Most Certainly get in

Football club board. Maybe Get in depending on who's ticket he was on. It would also be interesting to see if he did retire and run for the board who would Run against him?
 

carson

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I think the moajor problem you will face with getting the board voted out will be the fact that the leagues club is very well run. The facilities are well maintained, the pokies are nice and shiny and noisey and the food is reasonably priced. For 90% of the members this is all they care about. When you couple this with the fact that most of them usually can't be bothered voting and that they wouldn't even know who the board members are without referring to the annual financial report, I wouldn't hold my breathe for any rebel factions trying to remove the CEO.

Also in the past destabilising the board usually leads to disaster on the football fields, for this to work you would need a bloodless coup.
 

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carson said:
I think the moajor problem you will face with getting the board voted out will be the fact that the leagues club is very well run. The facilities are well maintained, the pokies are nice and shiny and noisey and the food is reasonably priced. For 90% of the members this is all they care about. When you couple this with the fact that most of them usually can't be bothered voting and that they wouldn't even know who the board members are without referring to the annual financial report, I wouldn't hold my breathe for any rebel factions trying to remove the CEO.

Also in the past destabilising the board usually leads to disaster on the football fields, for this to work you would need a bloodless coup.

there is actually a non-footballing faction trying to get into the league club board who were against the leagues club price hikes of resent years.

Not my ideal of faction..tbh.
 

COACH STERLING

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Just out of curiosity, who on this board would support a move to form an allegience with a Rugby Union Team from the western suburbs? with games played out of Parramatta Stadium Perhaps?

Anyone?
 

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sooperdooper said:
well at the moment i am confident but never say never right?

absolutely, from resent experiances when Ricky wants his man he generally gets him and it's obvious that he wants Mateo.

We'll see what happens.
 

Angry_eel

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COACH STERLING said:
Just out of curiosity, who on this board would support a move to form an allegience with a Rugby Union Team from the western suburbs? with games played out of Parramatta Stadium Perhaps?

Anyone?
Why would be form an alliegience with a union team?
 

eel01s

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I have a very interesting story (all true)...

After 2001, I was moved to join the football club and really take an interest in how the club was run. I really wanted to help.

So, with the help of MITS, my wife and I joined the FC. At the same time, I was obtaining signatures from the 1986 side for some personal memorabilia. My wife got to know Ray Price.

Because we were dealing with a lot of the players from that side (and also Steve Edge), somehow Denis got wind of the fact that we were joining the FC. From that moment, he put 2 and 2 together and somehow got 5, thinking that we were teaming with Price to run a competing ticket for the Board. Now, seeing we had only just joined, and therefore couldn't vote, we couldn't work out why Denis was worried.

I was included in the member list in the club documents that year, but my wife wasn't (we still have both badges). The way my wife was treated meant that we never did renew our memberships. When we attendee the AGM for the FC we certainly weren't made to feel welcome.

My point to this story is that Denis will take action to squash any real or received threat to his leadership of the Leagues/Football club. (In this case there was definitely no threat from us).

I am thinking about joining up again, but that experience really soured me on the Eels management.
 
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CS, Alan Overton got involved as he was involved in the Two Blues Since the Early 60's, Once he found out the Situation over at the Two Blues (That it was going to go under) Alan asked on the Board if any benefit could come to the Leagues club by Owning the Two Blues. There was a financial benefit so the Leagues club Took it over. In doing so the Leagues club is involved with the Union. That club (Parramatta Two Blues) is the club that has formed the Allegiance for the Western Suburbs team to play in the National Union Comp underneath the Super 14's. The Two Venues they will use are Parramatta Stadium and Penrith Stadium.

The Same thing Happened with the Vikings club (Or Dundas Vally Rugby as it was known) They were approached to take it over and their was financial and other gains made by the Leagues club.

I would also not that during the Merger talks and while everyone was so against it I heard the presentation made to Football club members by Fitzy about the Merger and one of the Benefits was to be more money from the leagues club could take over the Pools and Stadium as they would be the Only Tenants with the Power, Two Blues and NRL being played out of the venue.
 

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Angry_eel said:
Why would be form an alliegience with a union team?

Exactly. Why? I've heard this idea being thrown around before by DF.

My theory is, when in doubt, kick it out. Anyone that wants to fu*k with changing the heritage of the club has lost me for good. There are too many grey area's concerning DF. I for one will always remain loyal to Parramatta, but if we ever merge,change names/codes or relocate i bet you all the money in our leagues club people will have a differen't view on things.

Don't discount the possibility, where there's a chance of a buck being made DF will be there.
 
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COACH STERLING said:
Exactly. Why? I've heard this idea being thrown around before by DF.

My theory is, when in doubt, kick it out. Anyone that wants to fu*k with changing the heritage of the club has lost me for good. There are too many grey area's concerning DF. I for one will always remain loyal to Parramatta, but if we ever merge,change names/codes or relocate i bet you all the money in our leagues club people will have a differen't view on things.

Don't discount the possibility, where there's a chance of a buck being made DF will be there.

If I may, How is Saving another Club in Parramatta and through that Running a Union Team changing the Heritage of the Club. The Number 2 Mission of the leagues club is to support Rugby League in the District and it does that. It even does that by getting money from 2 union clubs. How does that Effect our Heritage. The Leagues Club has more members than both Union Clubs Combined.

We will never Change Codes and for all the stuff I went through in the off season, I have been assure we will not relocate. The New Addition to the Stadium will see to that. As for Merging, If we ever were to Merge it would be another word for TAKE OVER. But at this time. West Tigers are Happy with what they have got. So are the Bulldogs and Penrith, and those are the clubs we share a boarder with.

But yeah Denis likes to make Money for the club. Maybe that is because he realises that it takes Money to put a League side on the Park and the More Money he makes, the Better Facilities, support staff and Environment we can provide to those players to help them Win the ultimate Prize.
 

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MarkInTheStands said:
If I may, How is Saving another Club in Parramatta and through that Running a Union Team changing the Heritage of the Club.

Its a way of getting your foot into the door. Once you form an interest in Union, you then look at exploring avenues of growing into a Super 14 outfit. DF has been very outspoken about an interest in having a super 14 team out of western sydney. If there was a choice between League and Union, he would choose Union. Why? more money, more room for growth, more power.


We will never Change Codes and for all the stuff I went through in the off season, I have been assure we will not relocate.

I hope so. Don't forget, DF did try and merge before. If another NRL club wanted to merege with Parramatta, he would do it in a heartbeat.



West Tigers are Happy with what they have got. So are the Bulldogs and Penrith, and those are the clubs we share a boarder with.

Are you saying that if these clubs weren't happy with what they had DF would be looking at merging with them. I hope not!

But yeah Denis likes to make Money for the club.

Fair Enough, but you don't skin your mother for 20 cents. Having failed to merge, attempting to have the eels logo changed, pissing off former greats, monopolising (dictating) the board, and now wanting to explore options with union.

I might be looking to far ahaead of myself, but like I said, when in doubt kick it out!

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