She's gooooorne...

[borat]

She is as guilty as sin and very lucky to only get 20 years. Her story is riddled with holes. What is the evidence she is innocent? Just because she doesn't look like a drug runner doesn't make her innocent.

Get over the looks and the tears people. It sells papers and is good for a sixty minutes special but the truth is she is guilty.

 

[borat]

No. The civil law system is not based on the presumption of guilt at all.

She was guilty under Indonesian law simply because the bag was hers. If she could have provided a reasonable doubt that the bag wasn't hers, then she would be free. Intention and knowledge of the presence of the drugs is irrelevant.

I love it how that myth spread like wildfire.

This article in SMH today goes a long way to debunking alot of these myths

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Fact-and-fiction/2005/05/26/1116950819084.html

 

[El Diablo]

The part that bugs me though is the judge apparently has found guilty 500 odd people and acquitted 0. I heard that in Nova. Surely that can't be serious?

And one news channel said he was proud of this record.

 

[choc_soldier]

Some guy plants a bomb in a nightclub that kills 200+ people, and gets 4 years.

Some lady gets caught with some hash in her luggage and gets 20 years [could have been life].

Where the f*** is the consistency?

Which one is worse? The drugs apparently.

I was 50/50 on this case during the whole affair (didn't sway either way), but I had a feeling that Shapelle was gone anyway, such was the apparent attitude of the judicial system.

Guilty until proven innocent is the mantra over there I think...

 

[madunit]

i have to agree with you there pennywisealfie, we have done so much for that country and this is the repayment we get. they are a total joke.

WE?

Hang on, what is Australia's involvement in this?
She was found in possession of drugs wasn't she?
She was found in possession of drugs in a country that has very harsh laws against such things wasn't she?

This has nothing to do with Australia, it has everything to do with one person who is a resident here, that is all.

We don't pay aid to Indonesia to let our citizens be criminals in their country.

you moron.

 

[Jae]

I agree with borat here... to be honest I hadn't paid any attention to the case since it started, boring typical sh*t and her sister was starting to bother me everytime i saw her. I watched all of the trial thing this morning, and hearing the judges read out the evidence at the beginning (from both sides) she really had no argument at all. Ignoring all of that, and the fact that she said she'd never used drugs while her dad went on ABC saying she "might've had a few spliffs out the back while she was at school" .. how the hell do you not notice that your boogie board is suddenly 4 kg's heavier? If it was a small bag or whatever I could understand, but it weighed 4 kilo's... I really don't get it.

 

[millersnose]

I dont know much about it so can someone please enlighten me.

What makes a weed grown in Australia better than a weed grown in Indo??

hydroponic growing technology has acheived weed that is 10 times as concentrated in THC as found in outside plantations

ten times as strong

 

[borat]

Here is a story that debunks the whole "Guilty until proven Innocent" garbage.

http://smh.com.au/news/Miranda-Devi...n-law-unfounded/2005/05/22/1116533585154.html

Contempt for Indonesian law unfounded
By Miranda Devine
May 22, 2005 - 12:06AM
The Sun-Herald

Whether Schapelle Corby is found guilty or innocent this week, the Indonesian legal system has come in for unfounded criticism in Australia throughout her trial.

It is not a corrupt, biased or primitive criminal justice system, nor does it judge a defendant guilty until proven innocent, as is being said.

Such criticism is "just plain wrong", says Indonesian law expert Professor Tim Lindsey, director of the Asian law centre at the University of Melbourne.

"There is no confusion about the presumption of innocence," he said on Friday by phone from Jakarta, where he is doing unrelated research.

"It is clearly the case that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof is on the prosecution . . . just as it is in Australia."

The presumption of innocence is unambiguously embedded in three separate pieces of Indonesian legislation, he said: the Judicial Power Act, the Human Rights Act and the code of criminal procedure.

Supporters of Corby, who faces life in jail after 4.1 kilograms of hydroponic marijuana was found in her bodyboard bag at Denpasar airport last year, should be careful about translating their concern for the 27-year-old Gold Coast beauty therapy student into contempt for the Indonesian system of justice.

After all, if convicted, she faces a series of appeals. And if all else fails, her financial backer, Gold Coast businessman Ron Bakir, said on Friday she will be asking Prime Minister John Howard to apply to his Indonesian counterparts for a presidential pardon.

 

[millersnose]

Some guy plants a bomb in a nightclub that kills 200+ people, and gets 4 years..

geez myths growing before our eyes

the 3 convicted in the team that did the bali bombing are on death row

 

[Rexxy]

hydroponic growing technology has acheived weed that is 10 times as concentrated in THC as found in outside plantations

ten times as strong

Heads the size of bananas according to the newspaper....

Hmmmmmmm bananas

 

[Willow]

we have done so much for that country and this is the repayment we get.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but geeez...

To put it bluntly, your attitude sucks mate.

 

[Eskimo Sharkie]

how the hell do you not notice that your boogie board is suddenly 4 kg's heavier? If it was a small bag or whatever I could understand, but it weighed 4 kilo's... I really don't get it.

That is a very valid point. It's not like a boogie board and a pair of flippers weighs a hell of a lot. You'd think that an extra 4kg would stick out like the proverbial.

 

[antonius]

Thats got nothing to do with it.
Would you suggest all court cases in America be judged on the OJ Simpson case?

From my point of view it has everything to do with it. The judicial system in the USA is nothing to hold up as beacon of all that's good and right. By the way I'm not saying she's innocent, I'm just saying the penalties a joke when compared to the bombers sentances.

 

[Azkatro]

Gee this thread's opening my eyes somewhat. Some of the most ill-informed rubbish I think I've ever read on this forum in here - and that's saying something!

I was initially given the false impression that the Indonesian legal system was "guilty until proven innocent", but that was due to my lack of knowledge and implications from our media.

Think about it this way.

Schapelle Corby is captured at Australian customs with a boogie board bag which contains 4.1kg of marijuana. It is her bag.

What's going to happen in the trial?

She's going to have to prove that she didn't put it there, otherwise she's guilty. Simple!

Did Schapelle Corby's defense identify the person who did put the drugs there beyond reasonable doubt? No. Given that it's her bag, and she has it, the obvious presumption is that she put it there. Common sense, not a corrupt legal system.

Let it go!

 

[El Diablo]

That is a very valid point. It's not like a boogie board and a pair of flippers weighs a hell of a lot. You'd think that an extra 4kg would stick out like the proverbial.

supposedly her brother was the one that picked it up and placed it for customs to inspect. if this is true and was the first time he touched it then that may explain the extra weight not being noticed.

strangely the defence never used him in the trial :?

 

[madunit]

why weren't any fingerprints ever taken?

 

[Jae]

Schapelle's defense team consisted of an over excited sister who was probably happy to be on camera, and 'Crazy' Ron running around offering money he doesn't have for information. It was inevitable. Even that Melbourne QC they had on 7 today, who knew very little about the way things work over there put forward a better case for her in the space of about 40 minutes.

 

[Willow]

f**k them i hope theres another tsunami

Disgusting... and just when I thought we found the worst post of the week, you pop out of the screen.
Congratulations.

 

[Pierced Soul]

f**k me - you try and smuggle 4kgs of an illegal substance of course you're gonna get busted. There may not be any conclusive evidence that she did, but nor is there any that she DIDNT do it.

if this was in america or the UK no one would care, the only reason people care is because some "non-white" people are threatening to lock up our fair skinned girl who cried and swore she didnt do it. I fit was any other autralian who wasnt white no one would give a f**k....

if an aboriginal got done doing the same thing australia would disown them...

 

[El Diablo]

and 'Crazy' Ron running around offering money he doesn't have for information..

he's mad ron these days. crazy john stopped him using that name lol