SJ.

[SpaceMonkey]

Yeah f**k Scurrah. I actually had respect for the guy at first (pretty much the first thing he had to do as CEO was come clean about Watson rorting the salary cap and cleaning up that mess) but it seemed like he was way more interested in selling jerseys than running a football club that actually succeeded on field.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Extremely bored at work, here is some light reading from 12 years ago on Cleary lol, some good niggle in there

Ivan Cleary's Warriors formula needs time article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/4953118/Ivan-Clearys-Warriors-formula-needs-time Agree/ disagree? Tony Smith - NFI club :lol:

forums.leagueunlimited.com

 

[Rich102]

Extremely bored at work, here is some light reading from 12 years ago on Cleary lol, some good niggle in there

Ivan Cleary's Warriors formula needs time article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/4953118/Ivan-Clearys-Warriors-formula-needs-time Agree/ disagree? Tony Smith - NFI club :lol:

forums.leagueunlimited.com

WOW. So much still applies this season. Maybe last season was an aberration.
Could the extra travel be a factor?

 

[Matua]

I think you can split them on consistency alone, the difference between Stacey’s best and worst was a lot smaller than Shaun’s. The 2001/2/3 was a consistently strong period for the Warriors, been more of 1 hit then a few misses during Shaun’s time

Agree with this post. The more I've thought about this the more I've decided that it isn't even close.

I never wondered what sort of game Jones would have when he ran out on to the field, even in the dark days of the late 90s when the team were essentially coach-less with iffy cattle. But with Johnson, for much of his career, I'd wonder what version would turn up, lots of times it was the superstar, but lots of times it wasn't.

 

[JJ]

I think this is pretty much spot on - Johnson had much more talent, so underachieved in that context, whereas Jones probably did the best he could.

Just considering NRL, it's Jones for me. Just on Johnson, relative to his 'peers' he's not in the top group - Thurston, Cronk, DCE, and I guess you can count Cleary, as their careers crossover at a quick consideration are the best - then the likes of Morgan, Reynolds, even Pearce probably end with better club cvs

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Extremely bored at work, here is some light reading from 12 years ago on Cleary lol, some good niggle in there

Ivan Cleary's Warriors formula needs time article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/4953118/Ivan-Clearys-Warriors-formula-needs-time Agree/ disagree? Tony Smith - NFI club :lol:

forums.leagueunlimited.com

Haha! f**k me, I was around in 2011. I had no idea.