Slater or Hayne

[WaznTheGreat]

I don't care if Hayne only plays 9-10 great games a year

Hayne playing 10 brilliant games a year > A decent player playing 24 consistent games

 

[Loudstrat]

I think we're all getting excited watching Hayne the last couple weeks. Slater's been doing it for years, every week in fact.

There is no way Slater could have scored Hayne's first try on Friday, or his try v Saints in the semi last year, or his try v Wests a few weeks before.

I have never seen Slater pull off a tackle like Hayne did on Stagg. The only way you could have seen Slater doing that for years is during an acid trip.

Hayne also is a local junior who once took a pay cut to keep a mate at the club. Slater ignored his local club and chased the money - as we have seen spectacularly in recent months.

 

[DC_fan]

The hatred for Hayne always makes me laugh. I go for the Warriors but get it right, this suggestion that Hayne has been poor for most of the season is absolute NONSENSE.

It seems unless Hayne has an absolutely OUTSTANDING game he's considered to have had a bad game.

Haynes gone good all year. Just because he hasn't had a highlight package season doesn't change that.

I propose most people talking sh*te about only playing a quarter of the season haven't watched the Eels this year.

I'd take Hayne over Slater any day of the week.

I am not sure that people here are saying that Hayne has played poorly this season. More that he has not played up to the level we know and he knows he can play.

The past two weeks Hayne has been outstanding. Based on those performances Hayne would have to be the best player in the game. But you can't base that opinion on just two games.

I will admit I have not seen avery game the Eels have played this season, but I have seen a fair number of them. In my opinion in most of those games Hayne has not played at the level he is capable of. So much so that his coach Daniel Anderson thought it was warranted enough to say something publicily.

Up to two weeks ago I would rate Haynes season at about a 7. The past two weeks I would rate him a 10. But until he can more consistently play at his best he will be considered to be a disappointment.

Billy Slater may not be as naturally gifted a player as Hayne, but he makes up for that in many other ways. Through grit, determination and a will to win. Billy puts his body on the line in every game. You cannot say the same thing about Jarryd Hayne.

You might take Hayne over Slater. But as shown over the past couple of years all you will get from Hayne is about a quarter of a season of really good play. While with Slater you would get that for just about the whole season.

I would take Slater over Hayne any day of the week and I bet you my team would end up with more wins then yours.

 

[Loudstrat]

Does that include a Salary Cap breach?

Slater has played his entire life outside a huge forward pack and a great 7 and 9. Hayne isn't.

And I love how people forget how good Hayne has been in Origin -the best in a blue jumper by far last year - off the wing ffs!

And slater's for lately has been sh*t - even pillow like. Last nigh - 12 runs for 97m? That's an average bench props stats. Hayne's 12 runs got 126m - a third again better. Patten - 16 runs for 164.

Shows slater also is capable of poor games - hence the campaign by QLD fans to keep him out of Origin because of his pea heart - something that has never happened to Hayne.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

And slater's for lately has been sh*t - even pillow like. Last nigh - 12 runs for 97m? That's an average bench props stats. Hayne's 12 runs got 126m - a third again better. Patten - 16 runs for 164.

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:lol:
So you take the stats for ONE game....when Melb was playing aginst a top four team ...
& compare it to ONE Parra game against cellar dwellars
Once again :lol:

 

[Ladmate]

You think Benji could do the things that Hayne did in those games?

You think any of those 3 have the brute power that Hayne does??????

In those 3 games he has beaten players with his agility and footwork; he has used his sheer speed to burn people off; has used his sublime skill to put people into gaps; has used his superior talents as a defensive fullback to stop tries; has used his sheer brute strength to bully off defenders and power over the line.

Those guys could do some of the things that Hayne does, but certainly none of them could produce that kind of performance.


Don't worry mate, you'll catch up in a couple of years!

Someone obviously didn't watch Marshall in 05. When he was younger than Hayne.

 

[Loudstrat]

:lol:
So you take the stats for ONE game....when Melb was playing aginst a top four team ...
& compare it to ONE Parra game against cellar dwellars
Once again :lol:

That would be the same top 4 side that Hayne decimated last week? :lol:

Given the salary cap value difference between Melbourne and Penriff - the Dogs v Eels would be much closer. If it was Australia v Canterbury, you might have a point.

Someone obviously didn't watch Marshall in 05. When he was younger than Hayne.

Yep - we saw one flick pass. So how good was Marshall at fullback then dipsh*t??????

 

[MightyBronco]

I have never seen Slater pull off a tackle like Hayne did on Stagg.

well you should start watching some Origin. Game 3 this year Slater pulled off a better tackle on Watmong, and it was a GAME WINNING tackle, in a massive ORIGIN game.

Haynes tackle was good, but it was just in a regular season game after the game was well and truly won.

Another example of Slater doing it on the big stage.

 

[Loudstrat]

No one ever said Slater doesn't do it on the ig stage. Hayne does too - and unlike Slater at the same age - has had nmany years experience at it.

We could chat about Hayne flattening the opposing test captain in a world cup semi final if you want to talk about defence ;-)

 

[Ladmate]

Yep - we saw one flick pass. So how good was Marshall at fullback then dipsh*t??????

He said "could not make the same plays Hayne did." He did. And he walked away with a premiership.

Benji against Sharks 05>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hayne against Dragons 09.

 

[Dr Crane]

didn't benji set up that try in the grand final from fullback?

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

No one ever said Slater doesn't do it on the ig stage. Hayne does too

You didnt mention big,little or any stage ...

Originally Posted by Loudstrat

I have never seen Slater pull off a tackle like Hayne did on Stagg.

well you should start watching some Origin. Game 3 this year Slater pulled off a better tackle on Watmong, and it was a GAME WINNING tackle, in a massive ORIGIN game.

Talking sh*t again ,shown you were wrong(yet again),& you start talking about stages....
Maybe you should get someone to read your posts before you hit submit...
Would go a long way to stop you making a complete fool of yourself continuously.

 

[Ladmate]

didn't benji set up that try in the grand final from fullback?

Yes he did. Well it was off a kick return in a high pressure game, that will be better than anything Hayne could do. Remember his grand final last year?

 

[COACH STERLING]

Did the NRL season only kick off in July?.
M.I.A most of the yr ,has some good games against the cellar dwellars & suddenly the bandwagon starts rolling.

JH single handedly won 2 games for Parra in the first 10 rounds.
This perception on Jarryd doing it in spirts in incorrect.
Stop trying to create a myth.
Parra will be playing all top 8 teams on the run into the semis as they did last season so your cellar dwellar theory is bullsh*t

 

[Dr Crane]

Yes he did. Well it was off a kick return in a high pressure game, that will be better than anything Hayne could do. Remember his grand final last year?

now what you've gone and done is taken my comment that benji has at least done something at fullback and turned it into an absurd argument that hayne is incapable of ever in his career (of which there would be at least another 10 years coming) of doing anything similar.

 

[Ladmate]

now what you've gone and done is taken my comment that benji has at least done something at fullback and turned it into an absurd argument that hayne is incapable of ever in his career (of which there would be at least another 10 years coming) of doing anything similar.

Not really. I didn't change your comment at all.

It's the fans who think Marshall is complete crap/can't do anything Hayne can that irks me.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Billy Slater is the #1 player in rugby league. He may not have the best all-round skills (not as far off as some would suggest though) but he performs the best and has done for years now.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

JH single handedly won 2 games for Parra in the first 10 rounds.
This perception on Jarryd doing it in spirts in incorrect.
Stop trying to create a myth.
Parra will be playing all top 8 teams on the run into the semis as they did last season so your cellar dwellar theory is bullsh*t

I never said anything about future games ...i was talking about the last couple of weeks...V cows,V Dogs,V Panthers....two BOTTOM of the table teams,& one team in top four ,who seems to only get over the line through kicks.

Wait till they play some of the top teams & see how the myth goes.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

It's the fans who think Marshall is complete crap/can't do anything Hayne can that irks me.

Agree with that

Benji can do everything that Hayne can on attack. Has the pace, has the amazing passing skills left and right, has the footwork, has the chip and chase. Obviously doesn't have Hayne's strength, but probably has more agility.

Benji to a large extent only has himself to blame for not featuring in these discussions (he just hasn't quite performed well enough) but I do wonder if he would be in these discussions if he played consistently at 6 outside a decent halfback. He should be these generation's Laurie Daley but with a few more tricks imo.

 

[MacDougall]

Hectic. It seems I just bumped Hayne into the lead by 1 point.