B-Tron 3000 said:
First of all - to anyone complaining that the topic has moved too far away from footy - you can stop reading my post now your bores.
Then why did you cut out the bit where I explain about the emotional stresses placed upon people in the Church? Surely a religious man such as yourself would have experienced this kind of scenario? Or perhaps you haven't experienced it, but I have because I am not part of the Church and the people involved felt comfortable telling me.
How nice that they felt comfortable with you. I have heard of these experiences, but I can not say I have experienced it in my current faith. Then again my last faith drove me to depression through fear, and it was my strong will that kept me alive. Maybe you would call that harm, I will attest to this day, that the decision I made was the best one I have made in my entire life.
B-Tron 3000 said:
Your comment that it is possible to get all people thinking the same thing suggests otherwise.
My comment was not that you could get everyone thinking the same thing it was a generalisation like you have been using that for the major "organised" religions that you are rallying against there are certain rules that can be obeyed to without impediment of faith.
B-Tron 3000 said:
You have taken me out of context my friend.
I said I have/had friends who were Morman because I don't judge them by their beliefs, unlike the way religious people will judge others. And I don't. As I said before, if I met Kris or any other Morman I would be more than happy to change my mind about them all being strange people. I'm quite certain I haven't met them all.
I definitely judge their religious practice though. Absolutely, without a doubt, 100%. My whole argument has been against organised religion. I don't agree with the concept of organised religion.
Well that is nice, firstly I think you are wrong in thinking the Churches have a view against other people, I think it is against other faiths, most faiths have for the most part and isolationist elitist view that stems from the very quote I have bought to this thread that they should go out and spread the word. In every faith their word is the word above all, I am lucky my faith teaches me (and it is an organised religion BTW) that there are many paths to "Enlightenment" what ever that may be, it teaches that it is one path, but not the one "true" path and that there are many ways to reach enlightenment. Again I think you are heavily Generalising "Organised Religion" together and I think doing so incorrectly.
B-Tron 3000 said:
On top of that, any Church where people expect you to give a certain percentage of your income to them is total BS. I don't like the attitude of the Chuch of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints. So there.
Well maybe we are getting more to the point of what you are really saying here.
