South Africa

[LeagueXIII]

Union in SA is well connected with politics...our officials can work as hard as they like it won't get them anywhere in SA, besides they have very little money to make a difference.

 

[Stallion]

Union in SA is well connected with politics...our officials can work as hard as they like it won't get them anywhere in SA, besides they have very little money to make a difference.

Union is well connected with politics and bigotry in South Africa and elsewhere.

 

[Shark62]

Union in SA is well connected with politics...our officials can work as hard as they like it won't get them anywhere in SA, besides they have very little money to make a difference.

Depends on the approach taken. Nothings worked so far because nothing much has been tried. There is a defeatist attitude in league in my view.

 

[LeagueXIII]

Things have been tried. Infact they have been tried since the late 50's. As stallion said politics, sporting bigotry goes hand in hand with SA union towards league. I suggest you get hold of the article.

 

[Shark62]

Things have been tried. Infact they have been tried since the late 50's. As stallion said politics, sporting bigotry goes hand in hand with SA union towards league. I suggest you get hold of the article.

Sorry mate I’m not in to old sad stories. I’m only interested in what happens next. We can either stew about the past or create the future. For the game to grow internationally we’ve got to get over a lot of this. I’m not denying shite has happened in the past. I’m saying we need to look at the future and plan accordingly. All the money in the world won’t do the job. It’s smart planning. Something the game is poor at.

 

[adamkungl]

Sorry mate I’m not in to old sad stories. I’m only interested in what happens next. We can either stew about the past or create the future. For the game to grow internationally we’ve got to get over a lot of this. I’m not denying shite has happened in the past. I’m saying we need to look at the future and plan accordingly. All the money in the world won’t do the job. It’s smart planning. Something the game is poor at.

Rugby League people love to point out something that didn't work decades ago as reason to not bother trying again.

 

[Shark62]

Rugby League people love to point out something that didn't work decades ago as reason to not bother trying again.

Yep and I have copped it here for pointing it out by a couple of others. I’m not including League XIII as an example. There is no doubt some here carry a massive chip on their shoulder about past union transgressions.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

You're an authority on everything by the looks of it, how about you join the RLIF and show em how it's done.

 

[Shark62]

You're an authority on everything by the looks of it, how about you join the RLIF and show em how it's done.

Thanks for the compliment. Im not actually an authority on everything but I do have extensive experience in change management. The biggest lesson you learn in change management is to learn from the past but don’t let it hold you back.
The world is changing and sports like ours need to have a vision of the future and adapt our approaches accordingly. I’m sure you agree.

 

[Disinterested third party]

Don’t wa

Rugby League people love to point out something that didn't work decades ago as reason to not bother trying again.

Recognising past wrongs which have not been righted is not inconsistent with moving forward. In fact it is often integral. Look at reconciliation in Australia.

 

[Shark62]

Don’t wa

Recognising past wrongs which have not been righted is not inconsistent with moving forward. In fact it is often integral. Look at reconciliation in Australia.

I don’t think sarfu are going to recognise or apologise for past wrongs.
Their response to anything league tries to do in South Africa should be fairly predictable.
As such it shouldn’t require too much imagination to outsmart them and get the game on the front foot there.
The administrators of rugby union in South Africa may be malevolent to our game but I’ve seen no evidence they are clever.
We need to be clever though. And that requires an acknowledgement and understanding of the hostile response to anything we do and how we use that to our advantage.

Know your enemy.

 

[Disinterested third party]

Highly original.

What the SARU do is irrelevant.

Pointing out what has previously occurred in RL nations around the world is entirely relevant. See for example France and Vichy.

 

[Shark62]

Highly original.

What the SARU do is irrelevant.

Pointing out what has previously occurred in RL nations around the world is entirely relevant. See for example France and Vichy.

Sure. It obviously causes you great happiness whinging about it so enjoy.

 

[Disinterested third party]

No one cares about your views.

 

[Shark62]

No one cares about your views.

Really? You think you speak for everyone? How peculiar.

 

[Disinterested third party]

No - just that it is obvious you are a troll and almost everyone here knows it. The handful that don’t are learning fast.

 

[Shark62]

No - just that it is obvious you are a troll and almost everyone here knows it. The handful that don’t are learning fast.

Could you leave this childish behaviour to the fight club?

 

[Disinterested third party]

Why don’t you cry to a mod? Again.



About to get off the bus at Origin. Enjoy whatever trolls do on Origin night.

 

[Shark62]

Why don’t you cry to a mod? Again.



About to get off the bus at Origin. Enjoy whatever trolls do on Origin night.

Whatever mate. You seem to be a really angry person.

 

[Disinterested third party]