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Souths Duty of Care

The Charlatan

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alien said:
no i'm not a disgrace. if you treat your customers like dirt for years then you're going to lose them. you can't be unloyal to those who are unloyal to you first. wt are a filthy scummy abomination. i moved on to something bigger and better and i am very happy.
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Customer? Is that how you see supporting a club? Because supporting a club through the shit times is exactly like not being happy with the Big Mac you bought... :lol:

I actually feel for the Souths fans who have supported the club their whole lives and got to finally see them lift the trophy and have to share that joy with jarhead bandwagoner like yourself, because you want the Magpies to return to the NRL. You'd rather have 100% of nothing than 50% of something.
 
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Reynolds could get shot in the head and the doc would be pushing back out there.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...er-the-spotlight/story-fni3gki8-1227280272045

THESE are the disturbing images that show South Sydney have been walking a fine line on the issue of player safety for several seasons.
In the wake of Michael Maguire’s declaration that he would never put Adam Reynolds’ health in danger, The Daily Telegraph received an anonymous reminder about two incidents in 2013 when Reynolds was administered smelling salts after suffering head knocks.
On one occasion New Zealand Warriors doctor John Mayhew said he was about 20 metres from Reynolds when he was “knocked out” in a match — and Mayhew claimed he was surprised the halfback was not taken to the sideline for precautionary checks.

Ironically, Mayhew was the same doctor at the centre of last Saturday’s Nathan Peats controversy in New Zealand, when the Parramatta hooker was knocked out but later allowed to return to the game.




While Mayhew was gagged from talking to the media last Saturday, he did speak about the Reynolds incident in 2013.
“I believe he was knocked out,” Mayhew told The New Zealand Herald.
“If I was in a similar situation, I would have had great difficulty in allowing that player to play on.”
Reynolds was also given smelling salts after an incident in a game in 2013 against the Sydney Roosters.
The smelling salts episodes then led the NRL to warn all clubs about possible fines and suspension of staff if teams were found to breach concussion guidelines.
But two years later the NRL is again investigating Souths, Parramatta and Manly over five separate incidents last weekend.
This week NRL head of football Todd Greenberg warned clubs could face heavy fines, suspension of staff and even loss of competition points.

As calls grow louder for the introduction of independent doctors to monitor concussion tests, a leading sports doctor yesterday told The Daily Telegraph that in his opinion neither Reynolds or Peats should have been allowed to return to the field last weekend.
“I could not believe it,” said the doctor, who did not want to be named.
“What people need to understand is that the SCAT3 test is really not a test, it is a thing that you use if there is a doubt.
“But on these two occasions the SCAT3 would not even be necessary. They should not have been allowed to return, that is for sure.
“The concerns are that the apparent dangers of concussions seem to be glossed over. People are being sent back when they are obviously concussed.”
In 2013 then-Rabbitohs chief executive Shane Richardson, who now works for the NRL, said the club’s performance manager Troy Thompson had been “using smelling salts for years” — and there was nothing improper going on at the Rabbitohs.
But then-NRL chief medical officer Ron Muratore immediately told all clubs that the practice must stop immediately on players who had suffered a head knock.
 
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BranVan3000

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betcats said:
Reynolds could get shot in the head and the doc would be pushing back out there.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...er-the-spotlight/story-fni3gki8-1227280272045

THESE are the disturbing images that show South Sydney have been walking a fine line on the issue of player safety for several seasons.
In the wake of Michael Maguire?s declaration that he would never put Adam Reynolds? health in danger, The Daily Telegraph received an anonymous reminder about two incidents in 2013 when Reynolds was administered smelling salts after suffering head knocks.
On one occasion New Zealand Warriors doctor John Mayhew said he was about 20 metres from Reynolds when he was ?knocked out? in a match ? and Mayhew claimed he was surprised the halfback was not taken to the sideline for precautionary checks.

Ironically, Mayhew was the same doctor at the centre of last Saturday?s Nathan Peats controversy in New Zealand, when the Parramatta hooker was knocked out but later allowed to return to the game.




While Mayhew was gagged from talking to the media last Saturday, he did speak about the Reynolds incident in 2013.
?I believe he was knocked out,? Mayhew told The New Zealand Herald.
?If I was in a similar situation, I would have had great difficulty in allowing that player to play on.?
Reynolds was also given smelling salts after an incident in a game in 2013 against the Sydney Roosters.
The smelling salts episodes then led the NRL to warn all clubs about possible fines and suspension of staff if teams were found to breach concussion guidelines.
But two years later the NRL is again investigating Souths, Parramatta and Manly over five separate incidents last weekend.
This week NRL head of football Todd Greenberg warned clubs could face heavy fines, suspension of staff and even loss of competition points.

As calls grow louder for the introduction of independent doctors to monitor concussion tests, a leading sports doctor yesterday told The Daily Telegraph that in his opinion neither Reynolds or Peats should have been allowed to return to the field last weekend.
?I could not believe it,? said the doctor, who did not want to be named.
?What people need to understand is that the SCAT3 test is really not a test, it is a thing that you use if there is a doubt.
?But on these two occasions the SCAT3 would not even be necessary. They should not have been allowed to return, that is for sure.
?The concerns are that the apparent dangers of concussions seem to be glossed over. People are being sent back when they are obviously concussed.?
In 2013 then-Rabbitohs chief executive Shane Richardson, who now works for the NRL, said the club?s performance manager Troy Thompson had been ?using smelling salts for years? ? and there was nothing improper going on at the Rabbitohs.
But then-NRL chief medical officer Ron Muratore immediately told all clubs that the practice must stop immediately on players who had suffered a head knock.
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Whether or not this is a grey area, why are we even talking about something from 2013? The Telegraph sure want to drag this story out
 
muzby

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BranVan3000 said:
Whether or not this is a grey area, why are we even talking about something from 2013? The Telegraph sure want to drag this story out
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maybe because this highlights a repeated history of this occurring to the same player, and thus highlighting a failed duty of care..

studies show that repeated concussions, particularly when not treated properly, lead to problems in later life.

and hence the major problem that most souffs fans can't seem to get through their heads - whilst you may seem 'fine' a few minutes or a few hours or a few days after a concussion, it is the long term damage that is the major concern..

go do some research into CTE and come back to the discussion.....
 
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so the thread on the souffs forum for this topic is rather amusing...

however this post in particular gets me really concerned about their fan's approach to player welfare..

Sorry , a LEGIT Doctor should be independent and follow hippocratic oath , re caring for patients. As such I prefer a CLUB doctor because they KNOW the players.
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i shit you not..

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=10773352#post10773352

yep, who wants a bloke (a legit doctor, as that souffs fan says) who's taken the hippocratic oath (in summary, "It requires a new physician to swear, upon a number of healing gods, to uphold specific ethical standards.") when you can instead have someone who knows the players personally, and is paid by the same club..?
 
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So are we going to get independent doctors for all injuries, or just concussion injuries?
 
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