Stalled and stagnant Sydney clubs

[Cheese sandwich]

Half you f**kers in here actually watch football or just check the crowd figures for each game?

Other than zero in perth nothing else matters.

 

[Perth Red]

Since covid the arlc has increased funding to all clubs by 35 million pa ie almost 2 million extra per club

in the same time frame afl has cut funding to its clubs.

nobody has said get rid of the expansion teams that’s a straw man argument.

Thats because some NRl clubs couldn't have survived taking any cuts lol They barely get by as it is.

 

[Perth Red]

Half you f**kers in here actually watch football or just check the crowd figures for each game?

Other than zero in perth nothing else matters.

oh you're back lol
Another clueless sharks fan to add to the bunch.

 

[Wb1234]

doh! Show me where I said that,
I said as far as Tv value is concerned that's not what floats their boat. Overall audience numbers is what matters. A bigger audience in a key metro region is a nice bonus though which is what Perth and Melbourne gives us.

I see you are now conveniently ignoring the Ch9 club allocation slots I've shown you lol

Do you honestly think a Perth nrl club is justified on the basis of it being able to attract maybe 50k extra tv viewers a week in wa ?

 

[siv]

There's been a long running turf war between the Roosters and their neighbouring nemesis South Sydney where the latter got the junior boundaries redrawn in their favour thanks to the power they had at NSWRL HQ in the 1950's that's never been readdressed.

Only real NSWRL boundary changes occurred in 1928 and 1937. There was no change in the 1950s. Its a myth Easts keep trying to spread

Everything else was todo with entry or exit of clubs

 

[Wb1234]

Thats because some NRl clubs couldn't have survived taking any cuts lol They barely get by as it is.

See this is why people don’t like you so much

as a “rugby league fan” you should be happy that our clubs finances are much more solid than our afl rivals, that sport you can’t stop talking about lol

 

[AdelaideSharky]

See this is why people don’t like you so much

as a “rugby league fan” you should be happy that our clubs finances are much more solid than our afl rivals, that sport you can’t stop talking about lol

He's an AFL troll mate.

Yet one moron in here had the cheek to say I was an AFL troll.

 

[Wb1234]

He's an AFL troll mate.

Yet one moron in here had the cheek to say I was an AFL troll.

I honestly think he should take a week off from watching nrl and be instead try and watch a whole round of afl.

then see how much he wants to praise it.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Only real NSWRL boundary changes occurred in 1928 and 1937. There was no change in the 1950s. Its a myth Easts keep trying to spread

Everything else was todo with entry or exit of clubs

Not really, there is a situation where clubs like Coogee-Randwick Wombats, Bondi United, Paddington-Woollahra Tigers were/are playing in the Souths Juniors when clearly in Roosters territory.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

I honestly think he should take a week off from watching nrl and be instead try and watch a whole round of afl.

then see how much he wants to praise it.

Pretty much.

Between him and GROTD, he does my head in.

 

[Colk]

Since covid the arlc has increased funding to all clubs by 35 million pa ie almost 2 million extra per club

in the same time frame afl has cut funding to its clubs.

nobody has said get rid of the expansion teams that’s a straw man argument.

First of all are you referring to individual clubs or are you referring to the competitions at large? Either way, you’re wrong but I want to know what you wrong in regards to.

You could have fooled me.

 

[siv]

Not really, there is a situation where clubs like Coogee-Randwick Wombats, Bondi United, Paddington-Woollahra Tigers were/are playing in the Souths Juniors when clearly in Roosters territory.

In 1990 Easts abandoned their whole junior district and stopped running a junior league

 

[Colk]

The storm and swans are very similar clubs. Great crowds and great membership. Yet when it comes to growing tv viewers in their home states are an absolute failure

for the growth of the game it’s about new clubs who can actually grow tv viewers eg dolphins, Ipswich, central coast and New Zealand

The last point is where you are wrong, although I will give you a second Brisbane team and potentially a second New Zealand (depending on where they are located) due to increased access to attend a match.

The reason you are wrong is that people in these areas are already acutely aware of the existence of the game and have ample opportunity to consume the product in whatever way they wish to choose.

For example, if I live on the Central Coast, I can attend any Sydney game that I want or I could also attend a Newcastle game. Thus, I am within a 1-2 hour radius (give or take) of up to 10 NRL teams. Furthermore, like pretty much everywhere else in NSW (excluding somewhere like the Riverina) the game is on live, so again I have ample opportunity to consume the product.

Considering I am so close to 10 NRL sides and I have saturation coverage, I would have already decided to consume the product and if I have, I would have already chosen a side. If I have decided not to consume the product, then in all likelihood it’s because I don’t like the product and a CC side isn’t going to change my mind.

So therefore, in this scenario, putting a side wouldn’t lead to new supporters. Instead what you would be doing would be taking existing supporters away from other clubs. It is what you call cannibalising a market.

 

[siv]

Like I said, who cares where kids play U8's? Its turning the talented 16 and 17 year olds into first graders that matters in terms of talent pool development

The official definition of a junior

Is

a player who becoming 15 has played 2 complete seasons with their District Clubs junior league

 

[Perth Red]

Do you honestly think a Perth nrl club is justified on the basis of it being able to attract maybe 50k extra tv viewers a week in wa ?

you really dont get it do you? lol.
Like Storm its not about adding 50k new viewers its about being appealing to the 500k-1million NRL viewers who tune in to games and attracting a larger number of them than might be attracted to a game featuring a different club. Storm are one of the most valuable clubs to the NRL because they are so valuable to the TV companies. And that's not because they get 50k tuning in from Melbourne, its because they attract the biggest national audiences, more than nearly every club. 80% ish of viewers who tune in to an NRL game are neutrals, not fans of the two clubs taking part. If you can attract 80% of neutrals instead of 60% of neutrals then Tv loves you. Understand now?

 

[Cheese sandwich]

oh you're back lol
Another clueless sharks fan to add to the bunch.

There'll be a team in castle hill before perth

 

[Menaiduck]

you really dont get it do you? lol.
Like Storm its not about adding 50k new viewers its about being appealing to the 500k-1million NRL viewers who tune in to games and attracting a larger number of them than might be attracted to a game featuring a different club. Storm are one of the most valuable clubs to the NRL because they are so valuable to the TV companies. And that's not because they get 50k tuning in from Melbourne, its because they attract the biggest national audiences, more than nearly every club. 80% ish of viewers who tune in to an NRL game are neutrals, not fans of the two clubs taking part. If you can attract 80% of neutrals instead of 60% of neutrals then Tv loves you. Understand now?

577000 tuned into last nights game. The storm are pivotal to the games future.

 

[Colk]

you really dont get it do you? lol.
Like Storm its not about adding 50k new viewers its about being appealing to the 500k-1million NRL viewers who tune in to games and attracting a larger number of them than might be attracted to a game featuring a different club. Storm are one of the most valuable clubs to the NRL because they are so valuable to the TV companies. And that's not because they get 50k tuning in from Melbourne, its because they attract the biggest national audiences, more than nearly every club. 80% ish of viewers who tune in to an NRL game are neutrals, not fans of the two clubs taking part. If you can attract 80% of neutrals instead of 60% of neutrals then Tv loves you. Understand now?

He is suggesting that you grow the game by putting in teams from the CC and Ipswich. I’ll leave that there

 

[Cheese sandwich]

you really dont get it do you? lol.
Like Storm its not about adding 50k new viewers its about being appealing to the 500k-1million NRL viewers who tune in to games and attracting a larger number of them than might be attracted to a game featuring a different club. Storm are one of the most valuable clubs to the NRL because they are so valuable to the TV companies. And that's not because they get 50k tuning in from Melbourne, its because they attract the biggest national audiences, more than nearly every club. 80% ish of viewers who tune in to an NRL game are neutrals, not fans of the two clubs taking part. If you can attract 80% of neutrals instead of 60% of neutrals then Tv loves you. Understand now?

Stop plucking made up numbers out of your arse m8

 

[Perth Red]

The official definition of a junior

Is

a player who becoming 15 has played 2 complete seasons with their District Clubs junior league

Was that written in 1976? No one cares where little Johnny played his U10's cup. Whose taking 16/17 year old and turning them into NRL players, thats all that matters from an NRL competition point of view.
Getting more little Johnnys playing RL is the ARLC and state bodies jobs. Turning the best teenage Johnny into a NRL player is the NRL clubs job.
Even Penrith no longer fund any Jnr RL beyond their own elite age pathways programs in their region.