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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Matua

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The Phantom menace shat all over TLJ and it was awful.
I'd rather be stuck reading stallion on his Repression of Rugby League thread than have to watch The Phantom Menace ever again.

Meh, what would you Trekkies know about good space opera's anyway? ;)
 

Generalzod

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Man the hatred for TLJ is strong on this thread.

Seriously people, the prequels, all three of them are utter garbage that are unwatchable twice. Even with the stuff you don't like TLJ is a better film than any of the prequels.

I actually enjoyed TLJ more the second time I watched it. So. looks like I'll be the 'one' from this thread looking forward to the new movie. :D
As bad as the prequels where nothing comes to close to TLJ, actually I got to appreciate them more...
 

Mr Spock!

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I'd rather be stuck reading stallion on his Repression of Rugby League thread than have to watch The Phantom Menace ever again.

Meh, what would you Trekkies know about good space opera's anyway? ;)
I'd rather have my eyes gouged out with very blunt teaspoons than sit through the phantom menace again.

And it was 10000000000000x better tha TLJ.

So were all the star trek movies. Including that boring long winded first one.
 

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myrrh ken

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Kevin Smith's prediction for the reason why "Skywalker" is in the title, is because it has now transcended the term "Jedi", in that Luke was The Last Jedi, however anyone now being trained in what we know as the Jedi ways will be known as Skywalkers.

Rey may end up being a Skywalker by "trade" so to speak, not by name.

Eh...

But isn't Ren more of a sky walker than Rey?

Which is prolly why the theory is right.
 

myrrh ken

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Luke tried to murder his adolescent nephew on an inkling. He also sympathised and redeem his child murdering dad.

Luke is actually the villain.
 

Generalzod

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Luke tried to murder his adolescent nephew on an inkling. He also sympathised and redeem his child murdering dad.

Luke is actually the villain.
He is actually the hero he redeemed his father, his father killed Palpatine he could not kill his own son cause blood is thicker than water..
 

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I'd rather be stuck reading stallion on his Repression of Rugby League thread than have to watch The Phantom Menace ever again.

Meh, what would you Trekkies know about good space opera's anyway? ;)

There are still only three good Star Wars movies, two OK Star Wars movies, and four really not very good Star Wars movies. Meanwhile, there are at least six actually good Star Trek movies.

I'll turn this thread into a Holy War. Don't make me do it. :p
 

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Man the hatred for TLJ is strong on this thread.

Seriously people, the prequels, all three of them are utter garbage that are unwatchable twice. Even with the stuff you don't like TLJ is a better film than any of the prequels.

I actually enjoyed TLJ more the second time I watched it. So. looks like I'll be the 'one' from this thread looking forward to the new movie. :D
There's two of us. TLJ is not just good. It's great. I'm not a Stars Wars megafan but I loved it. I'll try to sum up why, tell me what you reckon.

The way it blurred the lines between the light and dark side of the force is, imo, genius - genius because it pre-empted or even predicted the mirror image of the people watching it! The fiercely loyal franchise fanboys turned into douchebag hateful monsters, whereas a lot of casual viewers (like myself) found it to be more one of the most enjoyable and interesting of the franchise.

Such as, how the once pure-as-snow golden boy Luke turned dark - almost killing a sleeping Kylo Ren, and then burning down the Jedi tree or whatever it was. Or the current golden girl Rey immediately going towards the darkness when being trained by Luke. Same with the other new characters - we all cheered for Poe Dameron in Force Awakens, and through most of this movie: especially against the seemingly sinister Admiral Holdo. Until it turns out Holdo is the true hero, and Poe's munity is the traitorous act. Even Kylo seemed to show his softer side for large parts of it. Nothing we believed we knew about good or evil was quite as it seemed.

The only character that truly thrives in the movie (and the most enjoyable character in it) is the only one who fully embraced his ambivalence - Benicio del Toro. He knew that there was no wrong or right. He sat between both sides and profited.

Further to that, the only characters who were genuinely 100% good or evil through the film - Rose and Snoke - both die (I'm assuming Rose is dead).

Within all that you had a lot of the usual fun shit including one of the coolest light sabre fight scenes in all star wars movies imo - Rey and Kylo fighting off the badass red dudes back-to-back.

Sidenotes - I loved the red white and black colour palette/motif of this movie, particularly all the red. It made it stand out as unique among the other Star Wars films, and gives the red some symbolism. For me, it symbolised violence - they tore apart everything you thought you knew about these characters and this world.

it's not a perfect movie, but hey, as the movie itself proves - nothing is. The flaws, in some way, just reinforce he point the movie is making
 

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