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Fangs

Coach
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Martin will be chopped I think. Frizell will have his spot if not someone else.

Better for us anyway.
 

Sime_11

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Jurbo would be a backward change - he's off the pace big time in 2022 and wouldnt make a difference to NSW momentum.

Yeo comes on 5-10 mins earlier and NSW force golden point - I can handle Yeo getting a break but he was off for far too long and when he came on - NSW looked more direct and gained the upper hand.

RCG isnt cut out for origin, Paulo keeps his spot, overplayed his hand with his offloads, he is very difficult to tackle with his body, just needs to run off the back fence each hit up.

Ola'koatu and Koloamatangi should be pushing for selection, Matterson was solid, wouldnt be again him keeping his bench spot, but Sims looked out of his depth and should only be recalled if all over the above mentioned are unable to play.

Luai was very impressive at times last night, hoping he can bring that form to Penrith, but Cleary needs a kick up the backside, he copped immense kick pressure but some of his kicks were just atrocious and his goal kick has been a let down compared to 2020/2021.

Dont know if Api would go better than Cook currently (1st half yes) but Cook did have spark late in the game, as well as some terrible decision making. He does work well with Murray is has to be said so i could handle Cook keeping his spot.

Can Latrell play right centre? Wighton was very good and repaid the faith from Freddy, if he can play like that in Game 2, with NSW expected to perform better, we should force a game 3 at Suncorp
 

Iamback

Referee
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Jurbo would be a backward change - he's off the pace big time in 2022 and wouldnt make a difference to NSW momentum.

Yeo comes on 5-10 mins earlier and NSW force golden point - I can handle Yeo getting a break but he was off for far too long and when he came on - NSW looked more direct and gained the upper hand.

RCG isnt cut out for origin, Paulo keeps his spot, overplayed his hand with his offloads, he is very difficult to tackle with his body, just needs to run off the back fence each hit up.

Ola'koatu and Koloamatangi should be pushing for selection, Matterson was solid, wouldnt be again him keeping his bench spot, but Sims looked out of his depth and should only be recalled if all over the above mentioned are unable to play.

Luai was very impressive at times last night, hoping he can bring that form to Penrith, but Cleary needs a kick up the backside, he copped immense kick pressure but some of his kicks were just atrocious and his goal kick has been a let down compared to 2020/2021.

Dont know if Api would go better than Cook currently (1st half yes) but Cook did have spark late in the game, as well as some terrible decision making. He does work well with Murray is has to be said so i could handle Cook keeping his spot.

Can Latrell play right centre? Wighton was very good and repaid the faith from Freddy, if he can play like that in Game 2, with NSW expected to perform better, we should force a game 3 at Suncorp

I posted my side earlier and Kolomantangi was in it.

who at prop then?

Atleast Jake Turbo tackles and even if he only has the one stint the ruck is won for longer.

After Wighton scored QLD goes to the bench. From then on NSW lost the ruck
 

Kilkenny

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I’m not particularly passionate about SOO although wanted the Blues to win.

As I said previously I have no issues with Queensland winning, take nothing away from them. But the game turned on some big moments which basically all went the way of the Maroons.

The Maroons line speed was incredible and Munster was huge for them .

With some good fortune, a little bit of luck the Blue’s could have come away win the win and perhaps the narrative may not quite be so negative.

Obviously, Freddie will have to make one or two changes but I don’t think wholesale changes are required. This is a pretty decent Queensland side.
 

Kilkenny

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NSW had two tries rubbed out, correct decisions, while there were some doubts around two of the QLD tries which were both awarded. Cameron Murray really needed to go thru the line , not stop as he did which led to the Paulo try being rubbed out and I think the DCE try deserved to be reviewed at the very least given Paulo appeared to be being held which appeared to deny him an opportunity from breaking from the scrum to be in position to make a tackle. The result was determined by three of four key moments/decisions.

On Ashley Klein, I thought his officiating of the game was a bit of a throwback to the Billy Harrigan era. Allowed the game to flow, very few stoppages for penalties etc. I thought overall he officiated the game pretty well, even if he allowed Queensland some latitude in getting of there line a little to quickly at times. Nathan was put under enormous pressure on his last tackle options and there defence were able to get to him very quickly which contributed to his kicking game not being at its best.
 
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age.s

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I don't give the slightest of shits about the result, nor if various Panthers played well/poorly. The Space Cadet selected a typically trippy team and there's no reason to expect our boys to look like the same players they do in our well oiled machine. Nor am I particularly absorbed by the idea that this is "Australia's biggest sporting rivalry tm". There's only one footy club I care about and I'd trade any Origin victory away for a Panthers one on any given weekend.

It looks like there were no major injuries to our boys so I'm a happy man. One down, two to go.
 

Kilkenny

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In respect of the non Penrith fans they seem to be taking great delight in dishing out criticism for some of our representatives including Luai. In a difficult game, Jerome had a hand in both our tries and pulled off a great try saving tackle half way thru the second half, which he doesn’t seem to have received any credit for. I thought Brian To’o had a really solid game, no real opportunities in attack but his work under the high ball and bringing the ball back was very good.
 

snickers007

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I don't give the slightest of shits about the result, nor if various Panthers played well/poorly. The Space Cadet selected a typically trippy team and there's no reason to expect our boys to look like the same players they do in our well oiled machine.

Poor Freddy got himself absorbed in a game of 4D Chess that didn't exist.

He played To'o and Tupou on different sides than they play for their clubs.
He ignored the Cleary, Martin, Crichton, To'o right hand side of the Panthers - selecting Critta off the bench, and having Martin play prop for most of the night (and To'o on the left).
And despite having Yeo, Cleary and Luai all in the team, he completely disregarded how they play for the Panthers. Yeo was down around 8-9 touches last night, and Luai was up around 20 touches.

Throw in some shocking service by Cook, and other strange bench rotations and apparently it's all the Panthers boys fault.

I'm like you, don't really care who wins, as long as the Panthers come through unscathed. But the narrative is hilarious. They'll come back into our team, and normal transmission will resume.
 

Iamback

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In respect of the non Penrith fans they seem to be taking great delight in dishing out criticism for some of our representatives including Luai. In a difficult game, Jerome had a hand in both our tries and pulled off a great try saving tackle half way thru the second half, which he doesn’t seem to have received any credit for. I thought Brian To’o had a really solid game, no real opportunities in attack but his work under the high ball and bringing the ball back was very good.

Luai was pretty good had 2 try assists.

The issue was the lack of go forward. Lack of game plan so many times both halves were looking for options
 

Iamback

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Poor Freddy got himself absorbed in a game of 4D Chess that didn't exist.

He played To'o and Tupou on different sides than they play for their clubs.
He ignored the Cleary, Martin, Crichton, To'o right hand side of the Panthers - selecting Critta off the bench, and having Martin play prop for most of the night (and To'o on the left).
And despite having Yeo, Cleary and Luai all in the team, he completely disregarded how they play for the Panthers. Yeo was down around 8-9 touches last night, and Luai was up around 20 touches.

Throw in some shocking service by Cook, and other strange bench rotations and apparently it's all the Panthers boys fault.

I'm like you, don't really care who wins, as long as the Panthers come through unscathed. But the narrative is hilarious. They'll come back into our team, and normal transmission will resume.

Look at the bench last night compared to the bench we run

Sorensen and Kenny are small middles but have the leg speed needed in the current game.

We also have players in motion. Last night it was one out garbage.
 

Kilkenny

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We’ve got salary cap woes, goes without saying, but surely the Broncos have issues in the foreseeable future with Selwyn Cobbo, Patrick Carrigan and a host of others.

Carrigan is something special, is only going to get better.

If the Broncos can keep the nucleus of there current side together they are going to be serious contenders in the seasons ahead.
 

Kilkenny

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Luai was pretty good had 2 try assists.

The issue was the lack of go forward. Lack of game plan so many times both halves were looking for options
Did anyone see his try saving tackle or I am mistaking him for someone else.
 

snickers007

Juniors
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We’ve got salary cap woes, goes without saying, but surely the Broncos have issues in the foreseeable future with Selwyn Cobbo, Patrick Carrigan and a host of others.

Carrigan is something special, is only going to get better.

If the Broncos can keep the nucleus of there current side together they are going to be serious contenders in the seasons ahead.

They can free up $800k by offloading Haas. Would go a long way to keeping them.

I know Haas is a workhorse, but I've seen the Broncos play enough footy without him to know that their other middles always step up when required.
 

Kilkenny

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They can free up $800k by offloading Haas. Would go a long way to keeping them.

I know Haas is a workhorse, but I've seen the Broncos play enough footy without him to know that their other middles always step up when required.
Bit like Kikau I guess. Forget SOO for a moment Haas is a freak at club level. Call him a workhorse if you choose but he is one of the best front rowers in the game. I would be doing everything in my power if I am Ben Ikin to keep him just like we should of done with Viliame Kikau. I understand the sticking point was not the money involved but the length of the deal. In hindsight I think we should have given him a four year deal.
 

The Realist

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Like I care about this game. Hope that most of our boys are dropped. It won't happen though.

Marto didn't do enough for me to make the starting side and Critter was not good.

My biggest concern really was Cook. He was so diabolical that the probability of Api being selected just shot up dramatically.

We may end up effectively losing MORE of our playing strength going into Game 2 - which honestly gives me the shits.
 

isaiah

Bench
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I’m not particularly passionate about SOO although wanted the Blues to win.

As I said previously I have no issues with Queensland winning, take nothing away from them. But the game turned on some big moments which basically all went the way of the Maroons.

The Maroons line speed was incredible and Munster was huge for them .

With some good fortune, a little bit of luck the Blue’s could have come away win the win and perhaps the narrative may not quite be so negative.

Obviously, Freddie will have to make one or two changes but I don’t think wholesale changes are required. This is a pretty decent Queensland side.
Great to start with the disclaimer.

You are wrong about the "rub of the green". Take off the blue glasses.
 

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