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Stefano Utoikamanu

Hoofhearted

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Its these situations that separate us from elite clubs, the Storm over the years would replace a player with a relatively unknown workhorse that would come in to do a job (Bryan Norrie) on minimal money. We on the other hand are likely to chase a past his prime former rep player and pay him what he was worth in his prime (think Klemmer). With that in mind, welcome to the tigers RCG, congrats on your new 4 year $800k deal.
 

Tiger05

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Its these situations that separate us from elite clubs, the Storm over the years would replace a player with a relatively unknown workhorse that would come in to do a job (Bryan Norrie) on minimal money. We on the other hand are likely to chase a past his prime former rep player and pay him what he was worth in his prime (think Klemmer). With that in mind, welcome to the tigers RCG, congrats on your new 4 year $800k deal.

Sheens with Benji's support went and signed Klemmer and Bateman on big dollars to fix our pack. I'd rather not spend the money if we end up with another top dollar signing like that.
 

Pezz70

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Why Marshy. The only thing I can think of is restriction of trade but if he's going then that wouldn't apply because we could argue that we helped him to be in a position to piss off.
Dump him I say.
It ain’t a restriction of trade, he’s not engaged in trade, he’s a club employee they can make him sit on the bench if they want and there’s nothing can be done about it, the only drama is you get nothing in return for the cash he has to get paid. Make him mow the grass at concord
 

Tiger Ted

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Its these situations that separate us from elite clubs, the Storm over the years would replace a player with a relatively unknown workhorse that would come in to do a job (Bryan Norrie) on minimal money. We on the other hand are likely to chase a past his prime former rep player and pay him what he was worth in his prime (think Klemmer). With that in mind, welcome to the tigers RCG, congrats on your new 4 year $800k deal.
No doubt that endless toxic contracts re players past their use by date has been one huge reason for our horrendous predicament however this shouldn’t happen while the hard nut & rugby league savvy Richo is in control.We will turn the corner but coz our predicament is so bad it will take a few yrs
 

Nutz

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It ain’t a restriction of trade, he’s not engaged in trade, he’s a club employee they can make him sit on the bench if they want and there’s nothing can be done about it, the only drama is you get nothing in return for the cash he has to get paid. Make him mow the grass at concord
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It ain’t a restriction of trade, he’s not engaged in trade, he’s a club employee they can make him sit on the bench if they want and there’s nothing can be done about it, the only drama is you get nothing in return for the cash he has to get paid. Make him mow the grass at concord

You are correct its not a restraint of trade if the Tigers dropped him to NSW Cup, or put him on the bench.

Asking him to mow the grass? Probably not as he was not employed by the club to be a groundsman would probably be beyond what would be classified as reasonable work for someone employed as a professional rugby league player. It would be like if I was employed to be a cleaner at a hospital but was expected to perform surgery the hospital administrator, it would be beyond what could be reasonably requested of me.
 

glockers

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I feel like with how this dragged out Stefano's management was talking to the Storm but unhappy with their offer, it was when the Dogs swooped in that he decided to go. I assume Dogs are paying well.

I agree with most of the comments on here, he isn't worth the price and we can reallocated the money to where it is needed (hopefully along with Bateman money).
 

Nutz

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You are correct its not a restraint of trade if the Tigers dropped him to NSW Cup, or put him on the bench.

Asking him to mow the grass? Probably not as he was not employed by the club to be a groundsman would probably be beyond what would be classified as reasonable work for someone employed as a professional rugby league player. It would be like if I was employed to be a cleaner at a hospital but was expected to perform surgery the hospital administrator, it would be beyond what could be reasonably requested of me.
I agree. They're the rules me thinking.
Footballers are too precious imo. How many trades involve work that's not really what their trained for eg a young chippy is told by the builder to fill the Ute up, clean the shed up, go get smoko for the boys. I mean football isn't orthopaedic surgery now is it. If it's in the best interest of the team for him to sit it out then so be it...go clean out Pascoe's locker, when ya finished do Lee's.
He goes back to KOE Cup and treds on the toes of Miller who'll get the shitesters.
 
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For the rest of the season I'd get him to wash the sheets at a respite home, by hand. Give the prick a bit of perspective.

He's not once taken accountability for his own lack of form, or making the team better. We'll be better off without him. We can waste that money on 2 other players.
 

Das Hassler

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It'd still be desirable to pass the spoon to the eels so I'd be keeping him in first grade and challenging him to do his part in accompliahing that at least and if nothing else showing Api some respect and gratitude for busting his arse through every game he's played the last two seasons
 

Pezz70

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I agree. They're the rules me thinking.
Footballers are too precious imo. How many trades involve work that's not really what their trained for eg a young chippy is told by the builder to fill the Ute up, clean the shed up, go get smoko for the boys. I mean football isn't orthopaedic surgery now is it. If it's in the best interest of the team for him to sit it out then so be it...go clean out Pascoe's locker, when ya finished do Lee's.
He goes back to KOE Cup and treds on the toes of Miller who'll get the shitesters.
I was being facetious re the grass, but he is now redundant he either takes the mowing job or moves along. 😂
 

Tigerm

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I think we will get someone as good, if not better for cheaper maybe even two, I think Richo would have had a contingency plan up his sleeve.
Anyway, he would have been the main hope for the last 3 seasons where we look like achieving a threepeat so not a huge loss.
Maybe in another few years, we may think differently, but the Storm will probably judge him harsher than our mob does.
 
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BrotherJim05

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From a roster perspective, I'm not overly concerned that we are losing Stefano, however from a psychology perspective it really kills us. We've worked so hard to move away from the "where careers come to die" tag, and further solidified our position with the signing of Luai and Turuva. Stefano leaving has undone all that, and until we start winning I don't see it changing.
I just really hope Richo can get some nutter Englishmen to fill our ranks and put a bit of mongrel into our forward stocks.
 

Nutz

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I was being facetious re the grass, but he is now redundant he either takes the mowing job or moves along. 😂
Yeh I know mate, me too with my opening statement re restriction of trade but I'd like to see the big guy work in the roar store ironing jerseys and cleaning with a feather duster.
He comes across as a shy guy but I'd like these guys to come out and make a statement to the fans, I'd also try to find out a way to thank them, like staying around after the game a bit longer to interact with them.
He may make a press statement but I hope he does a better job than Papa did.
 

Pezz70

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Comment had nothing to do with Stefano, media taking it out of context. But even if it did it’s true, bloke wants a comp handed to him on a platter, instead of working harder and encouraging his team mates along for the ride he takes the easy way out. Not the sort you want in your side.
 

Tiger05

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Mark Geyer was spot on about Stefano on 2MMM this morning. Said it shows he doesn't have much ticker as with the players coming next season, he should have stayed and seen how things went before looking elsewhere. Moving to another club does not guarantee that a Grand Final win will occur. In fact he intimated that Stefano lacks resilience.
 

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