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Superthread XLIII - honouring madunit

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Jason Maher

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thorson1987 said:
Any event in which you place money whereas you will ever win or lose is gambling.

No ifs or buts about it.
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That's the basic meaning. It is common to use it in a more figurative sense to refer to any action with an uncertain outcome, or when the "wager" is something more abstract than money. Anyone who has read the Wheel Of Time would be very familiar with this, as it is a major theme of the series centred on one of the main characters.
 
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Jason Maher said:
That's the basic meaning. It is common to use it in a more figurative sense to refer to any action with an uncertain outcome, or when the "wager" is something more abstract than money. Anyone who has read the Wheel Of Time would be very familiar with this, as it is a major theme of the series centred on one of the main characters.
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Sene sovya caba'donde ain dovienya
 
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Jason Maher said:
P.s. "Gambling", like most words, has several definitions. The most basic (from which the others derive) is any activity where money is wagered (risked) on the outcome of an uncertain event. Eelementary's definition is an extension on this basic meaning. BM's definition that restricts the meaning to only those circumstances where luck is the primary determinant of the outcome is a perfectly valid one, but is not the primary meaning and is quite unconventional (except among those poker players who wish to avoid the stigma of being labelled "gamblers".

As an amusing aside, BunniesMan would no doubt object to the title of this song:

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That's it, mate. I've no problems with poker - it's rather fun, I find -, but to label it something other than gambling seems silly to me.

In my experience, it is common for people who gamble to refuse to label their "trade" as "gambling", because it "involves skill", or "it's highly specialized", etc.
 
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Eventful day I missed in the ST

Congrats on the kids Thorson and Chicken Hunter

BunniesMan said:
A federal judge disagrees with you.

Yes luck is involved. But skill plays a greater role than luck.

A really good player will get in a hand with someone similar to what you describe, he'll have a bad hand, and he'll remember that 4 hours ago, 2 hours ago and 25 minutes ago he noticed this opponent leaned back in his chair when he missed the flop. He sees that again and he feels reasonably confident to go all in.

Good players consistently profit and make a living from poker because they have the mathematical skills to make the right decisions, they have the acting skills to throw off their opponents and they have the memory and detective skills to notice every important detail that has happened over a number of hours.

Those factors outweigh luck as a factor. That is what makes it not gambling.

Now can pure dumb luck affect a game? Of course it can. But luck affects almost everything in life. Do you consider going to university as gambling? Do you consider walking into KFC as gambling.

Those things and almost every activity in life has some level of luck attached to it. That doesn't mean it is gambling. The same goes for poker.

To sum it up very concisely, the element of skill involved outweighs the element of luck involved. Anyone that takes the time to learn the game can profit from it. It is not gambling.
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I'm a bit of a poker enthusiast myself when I get a chance to play and I think the skill out ways the luck when it comes to it but it's still gambling man.
 
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I left it downloading last night when I went out for dinner at 5.30. Had planned to come watch it when I got back a few hours later.

5am rolled around and I'm face deep in McDonalds and too dizzy to watch :lol:
 
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My brother finally went driving on his L's today. I tagged along in the back-seat. Boy, Was that fun...
 
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