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Tasmanian Rugby League

Perth Red

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Interested to read in the pacific island release today that the NRL funds 12 DO in PNG. That's more than all the affiliated states put together. In comparison the affiliated states have produced three times more NRL grade players than png.
 

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Interested to read in the pacific island release today that the NRL funds 12 DO in PNG. That's more than all the affiliated states put together. In comparison the affiliated states have produced three times more NRL grade players than png.

As I said on another thread this is where the NRL is heading.

The relationship with Touch really worries me. They can now boast 10000 players down here. Who needs contact football when you have an imaginary 10000 players?
 

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It was interesting g El that they didn't include touch numbers in last annual report. I wonder if they for next one? In so e ways they should as it challenges the two state mentality of RL but it could also be used to mask the real RL stagnation situation across the country.
 

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It was interesting g El that they didn't include touch numbers in last annual report. I wonder if they for next one? In so e ways they should as it challenges the two state mentality of RL but it could also be used to mask the real RL stagnation situation across the country.

Touch gives them breathing space as the game is stagnant at all levels particularly over 14s and it is too hard to fix unless you find an easy way out.
 

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Touch gives them breathing space as the game is stagnant at all levels particularly over 14s and it is too hard to fix unless you find an easy way out.

I'd have to disagree with this El in tems of too hard to fix having seen what just one motivated, skilled and passionate DO can do. Chris took the job to develop the game in the Pilbara and in space of two years has grown the game beyond wildest expectations. Throw in some NRL in the community support and great things can be achieved with not much expenditure. Take a look through the PRL Facebook page to see what can be achieved for very little outlay but lots of commitment.

https://www.facebook.com/PilbaraRugbyLeague
 

Juanjo

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If the NRL knew what was best for them they would say to all affiliated states 'here's x amount of funding relative to population and RL opportunities in your state and here's 1 or 2 DOs, report back to us monthly with where you are at but other than that have fun and build the sport in your state'
 

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The NRL should appoint an executive to administer the affiliated States and provide them with a budget and staff in line with the QRL and NSWRL bodies, which were never intended to be a part of the independent commission model.
 

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The NRL should appoint an executive to administer the affiliated States and provide them with a budget and staff in line with the QRL and NSWRL bodies, which were never intended to be a part of the independent commission model.

Well they kind have done this, at least in some states. They actually have three managers at NRL hq with a responsibility for elements of affiliated states governance. In some states, ie WA and Victoria they find some administration staff and development officers, though the do's now report directly to nrl hq not the state body any longer. Likewise the NRL used to give some affiliated states funding and they administered this at state level, then the NRL took it back and employ the CEOs directly with the CEO reporting to the NRL not the state board, hence why most of the warl board upped and quit. Sadly the funding is inadequate, not consistent with some states getting nothing, and the NRL managers seem pretty clueless and non existent.

http://sportsbusinessinsider.com.au...overnance/wa-rugby-league-board-mass-walkout/
 

magpie4ever

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Hey Elbusto, I take it you had no fun from the grant applications.

Bloody pitiful, when these pricks have a billion $ tv deal.
 

elbusto

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Hey Elbusto, I take it you had no fun from the grant applications.

Bloody pitiful, when these pricks have a billion $ tv deal.

I think you can safely assume my name is mud at NRL house mate. I have withdrawn from the game completely after advising the Affiliated States 'management' what a joke they are. I am not wasting my time with these peanuts any more. They want a small game they can have one.
 

nadera78

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Interested to read in the pacific island release today that the NRL funds 12 DO in PNG. That's more than all the affiliated states put together. In comparison the affiliated states have produced three times more NRL grade players than png.

Given the economics of PNG (and assuming they employ locals) those 12 DOs probably cost the same as 1 DO in Australia.

Also, the game is so big in PNG that for a modicum investment now you'd have a really strong production line within 5 years, and a fourth competitive tier one nation not long after.

It really shouldn't be one or the other - the money's there to do both, and to do them properly.
 

miguel de cervantes

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From an international point of view, I'd much rather the NRL funding the PIs and PNG than affiliated states, ie bolstering the all-conquering Kangaroos. Sorry, but that is the way it is.
 

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From an international point of view, I'd much rather the NRL funding the PIs and PNG than affiliated states, ie bolstering the all-conquering Kangaroos. Sorry, but that is the way it is.

They aren't mutually exclusive, getting the affiliated states into a position to enter clubs into the NRL creates more opportunities for players from the PI and PNG to play in the NRL, exposing them to quality competition and strengthening the international game.
 

elbusto

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From an international point of view, I'd much rather the NRL funding the PIs and PNG than affiliated states, ie bolstering the all-conquering Kangaroos. Sorry, but that is the way it is.
Ignoring half the country doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me. It certainly is not the way our major competitor is behaving. If we continue to play such a dumb game here we will have a shrinking market because the big boys want a national game and at the moment we do not have one.
 

miguel de cervantes

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Ignoring half the country doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me. It certainly is not the way our major competitor is behaving. If we continue to play such a dumb game here we will have a shrinking market because the big boys want a national game and at the moment we do not have one.

I understand that, but again from an international point of view, a weakened Australia would do wonders for the game in several countries arond the world, which would in turn probably bolster league in Australia because that international competitivity is something the major competitor does not have and never will.
 

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I understand that, but again from an international point of view, a weakened Australia would do wonders for the game in several countries arond the world, which would in turn probably bolster league in Australia because that international competitivity is something the major competitor does not have and never will.
I think the opposite. The stronger Australia gets the more the rest will have to rise. You want the bar set high.

Anyway back on point, when Smith finally turns his mind to the 'Affiliated States' and lets face it he has had a lot to do before he has had the chance, he will realise the last 5 years have been lost years.

He will eventually appoint somebody to look at what has happened out here in the sticks (ie 45% of Australia) and that person will be aghast at the lack of true growth compared to our major rival in our own back yard.

I may sound like I am having a gripe but it has been so frustrating and for no good reason. Some people are only capable of managing a small game, and out here we deserve proper and astute support.
 

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Hi

I seriously doubt anybody cares any more but the Tasmanian Rugby League plays its 9s tournament tomorrow. Two Clubs in Hobart will commit two teams. Another new club in Hobart will field a few players (duty of care? insurance?). Launceston have folded (so I hear) and the North West? Who knows? Congrats to the VRL and the plums at the Affiliated States total neglect committee. Bottle of red? Say goodbye to Tassie Rugby League. Why? There is no excuse for this.
 

elbusto

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But for those less cynical than me the great news is that somebody has (or may have been) appointed game manager for NRL down here. But, perhaps, sadly, the job description relates to Touch. I am only guessing as there is no media manager down here and lets face it why would those heavy weights at the NRL care any way?
 
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