Team list Tuesday ! Trial vs Raiders

[Bazal]

You're not supposed to lap it from a bowl.

Now now.

5 or so hours is a decent amount of time for a beginner to set the drip...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'd probably agree. But you'd think after a decade of playing the ball slowly most years and being crap and the only year we finished top 4 was when we played the ball faster, we might have learnt something out of all that.

Prior to 2018 we generated quick play-the-balls on the edges. It wasn’t unique (Hasler did it with Manly a decade ago) but by about 2015 we were the only ones doing it.

We weren’t playing the ball quickly in 2017 because of our middle forwards. It was the exact same pack in 2018.

Pre-2016 our problem was defence, and the overwhelming reason for that was Chris Sandow.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Handful?

You mean like a handful as in Parry, Hoffman, GJennings, Salmon, Brown, Lane, Niukore, Mahoney, Terepo, Kaufusi, Davies, Dunster, Utoikamanu and probably Gower?

Half of those are backups or Flegg players.

 

[Chipmunk]

Half of those are backups or Flegg players.

same with our opponents

 

[Poupou Escobar]

same with our opponents

With so few top 17 players they would have had all of their fringe players in the game, for long minutes too. Sam Williams started and finished the game ffs.

 

[hineyrulz]

I never noticed this but now that I've stopped drinking I think @hindy111 knows his league.

Something tells me you should start drinking again.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Trials mean not a lot.

Although it turns out this trial was between the fifth placed team and the eventual grand finalists. Possibly even the premiers with a bit of luck.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Spot on. Watching it again now and we are rubbish in the Opposition 20.

Do you think maybe the Raiders are a solid defensive side, and we actually go alright in attack?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

FFS Gary!

 

[Gary Gutful]

Something tells me you should start drinking again.

I did.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Do you think maybe the Raiders are a solid defensive side, and we actually go alright in attack?

Not in the opposition 20 (which was the point I was making).

We look better from the middle of the field in attack.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We were the third best attacking team in the comp this year. We scored plenty of tries from inside the opposition 20.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I wish I could find some f**ken stats on this. The article below was the best thing I could find...

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/08/01/stat-attack-who-rules-nrl-roost-for-long-range-tries/

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Just because we're better than other teams at scoring long range tries doesn't mean we're worse than other teams inside the 20.

When we REALLY needed a try this year and didn't get one we blame our team. But when the opposition really needed a try and didn't get one we credited our defence. It's normal human bias.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Just because we're better than other teams at scoring long range tries doesn't mean we're worse than other teams inside the 20.

When we REALLY needed a try this year and didn't get one we blame our team. But when the opposition really needed a try and didn't get one we credited our defence. It's normal human bias.

Do you think we look as polished as the top teams when we have a full set inside the opposition 20? Maybe its my bias but I feel like we struggle at times.

I think we are better when we surge into the 20 and don't have as much time to think about what we do. Granted though, at that stage the defence is on the backfoot.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We definitely don't set up as well as the top teams, but we know how to shift to the wings quickly when it's on. We just don't create overlaps as well as some other teams.

But the intent is to score tries, however you can, and I think we do it better than most teams, even inside the 20.

 

[hindy111]

Do you think we look as polished as the top teams when we have a full set inside the opposition 20? Maybe its my bias but I feel like we struggle at times.

I think we are better when we surge into the 20 and don't have as much time to think about what we do. Granted though, at that stage the defence is on the backfoot.

I reckon every side struggles inside the other teams 20 if they have had even possesion. If it is lopsided like our game last week then the opposition looks better.
And that is the reason Canberra had 4 injuries on their line drop outs to Souths.3-4 min rest. Amazing only Leilaua seemed genuinely injured.The rest come good after the whole team had a nice rest. And Souths couldn't find any space.
Some teams just play the rules smarter then others.

 

[hineyrulz]

Our set plays in the oppositions 20m zone sucks, doesn’t help we have Nathan Brown the handbrake.

 

[emjaycee]

Souths attack inside the 20 last night looked crap... wayward passes, Cook running around like lost sheep.
Maybe ours isn't too bad.

 

[hineyrulz]

Souths attack inside the 20 last night looked crap... wayward passes, Cook running around like lost sheep.
Maybe ours isn't too bad.

Their halfback being busted and gun shy doesn’t help.